How does one "Clean House"???

[AlikhnKwizad]

To be specific: A house built in 1910.

DH and I MIGHT (a BIG might! Probably not, but hopfully so) move into a house in the historic district of town in which our county seat is located. House was built in 1910. It felt "clean" mostly... except one room. It had the feel of a room some teenaged girl who practiced wicca or 'white magic' might have occupied. (I don't know why I felt that.)

Anyway, I don't know who lived there in the past, but it does have a lot of history!

So, if we were to move in (and the FIL would be the owner) how do we spiritually "Clean House?"

I'd like specifics if you can. I've said general prayers over rooms before, but didn't feel like they did much good. HOW do you do it?
Thanks! Shalom!

[visionary]

Dedicate that room to be your prayer/worship room. Place a box under the window and a cloth over it. Place your family bible open on the box. That is the only furniture in the room. Go there morning and evening for your daily worship service. Kneel before the open bible and pray emploring first that the Lord come and be present while you read His word. Pray that He will be with you and keep you through out your day. Pray and praise the Lord for all His blessings.

The Lord will send two mighty angels to quard His sanctuary in your home.

Remember that the spiritual battle is already won. The angels of the Lord will rebuke the evil spirit(s).

[AlikhnKwizad]

Great idea! So, I don't have to 'rebuke' any evil spirits? They will automatically leave once G-d is welcomed in?

[mjterry87]

What I would do is get a mezuzah for that door, and paint the room and or just make it look different. And like Visionary said, see if you can dedicate it to worship, if not I feel that it would be good to at least have a Bible (Complete Jewish Bible :thumbsup: ) in there. Also, go around and recite the Shema in the room too. I don't know, that is what I would do! LOL

[Tishri1]

I like what both of you had to say Vis and MJ:thumbsup: my little $.02 is just that I've never heard of evil spirits taking up residence with out cause and the biggest causes I 've heared of is thru sin and/or fear.

You don't sound afraid Nilah. Just because a decieving Spirit may have been there doesn't mean it stayed around and should there be anything there it will not stay for a minute if you don't allow it. Fear not our G-d is over all principalities, and just take your place in whatever home you choose and dedicate it all the Him, It will be cleansed and stay that way being a blessing to you all.

[visionary]

Great idea! So, I don't have to 'rebuke' any evil spirits? They will automatically leave once G-d is welcomed in?Yep!!! They can not stand to be in the same room as the Holy Ones.

[AlikhnKwizad]

Wow- ok. Wasn't sure what their legal "rights" were- spiritually speaking. I know so little about this part of reality. I am very sensitive to spiritual things, (I get "vibes") but I've never heard how to properly deal with the fallen beings. Thanks!

Tishri- That's what we are suposed to be doing! Taking back the earth! Best place to start is in your own home :) Good point!

[Velcro]

Do you realize how goofy, completely insane, this stuff sounds? Had I not experienced a "dirty house," I would think you are all off your rockers!! :wave:

When my children were preteens, we lived in an apartment, and sometimes, there was, simply put, a presence there. At those times, I would go about praying in every room until I felt comfortable there. I thought I was doing this in secret, until my daughter grew up and asked me about the "bad feeling" that would occasionally be in that apartment.

Years later, we rented a house I really liked. It was fine, except for the second floor, where I was going to have the playroom. I knew this and went up and prayed over the room. I thought that since we occupied the whole house, that would be good enough, but my very small grandson would scream and tremble everytime I took him up there. After a while, the "presence" left, and everything was fine for a while, then it would begin again. Eventually, I went into the crawl space, where I found an item. I got rid of it, then it was fine, and my grandson did well in the room, as though nothing had ever happened.

When we bought this house (it was 100 years old this year), I prayed over it, and one of the leaders from my shul put up the front door mezuzzah. I put up the others, and the house has been fine.

[Tishri1]

Wow- ok. Wasn't sure what their legal "rights" were- spiritually speaking. I know so little about this part of reality. I am very sensitive to spiritual things, (I get "vibes") but I've never heard how to properly deal with the fallen beings. Thanks!

Tishri- That's what we are suposed to be doing! Taking back the earth! Best place to start is in your own home :) Good point!

I just got shivers when you said that!!! Awesome! Can I quote you?:wave:

[AlikhnKwizad]

I was wondering about items that might've been left behind in the house...

When you open up the closet that the water heater is in, you can see the back of a fire place that had been closed off and a wall put up over the frount of it. If we do stay there I want to open up the fire place and look around... and I guess one would need to check the attic...

May I ask- what kind of "item" was found?

[AlikhnKwizad]

Tishri- Sure :D

[Tishri1]

Do you realize how goofy, completely insane, this stuff sounds? Had I not experienced a "dirty house," I would think you are all off your rockers!! :wave:

When my children were preteens, we lived in an apartment, and sometimes, there was, simply put, a presence there. At those times, I would go about praying in every room until I felt comfortable there. I thought I was doing this in secret, until my daughter grew up and asked me about the "bad feeling" that would occasionally be in that apartment.

Years later, we rented a house I really liked. It was fine, except for the second floor, where I was going to have the playroom. I knew this and went up and prayed over the room. I thought that since we occupied the whole house, that would be good enough, but my very small grandson would scream and tremble everytime I took him up there. After a while, the "presence" left, and everything was fine for a while, then it would begin again. Eventually, I went into the crawl space, where I found an item. I got rid of it, then it was fine, and my grandson did well in the room, as though nothing had ever happened.

When we bought this house (it was 100 years old this year), I prayed over it, and one of the leaders from my shul put up the front door mezuzzah. I put up the others, and the house has been fine.we were plagued in a house growing up too, and it was because my Mom had put Idols from Africa all over the place that she had gotten from a witch Dr.:doh:on a safari. She was very "spiritual" in a bad way and allowed it to be there. Once she got saved she "Cleaned the House" big time, and was only plagued by Fear after that, then she discovered that fear is the opposite of faith and began to "Clean Her House/Body" this time and even diseases have left her . :clap::clap:

[plum]

I'd look to the Word for the final answer on what to do with evil spirits.

[AlikhnKwizad]

Well, from what I know...

Yeshua said that some come out (of humans, I'm assuming) only with prayer. Would that also be true of a place? It seems that since a place is very different than a living human, maybe the rules would be different in how to handle it.

My parents' old house had some witchcraft type stuff left over from the previous owners... that house had spirits present. My parents actually moved. The demons didn't leave, my parents did.

So, I'm thinking that if property (w/ or w/o a structure on it) has something on it tied to demonic activity- that the spirits would be allowed to stay- untill the object was found, removed & destroyed.

So, like I asked before- what legal rights do they have? (If you have scripture verses to help me out- please send them!!!! :)

Also, Vis says that they can't come arround when the presence of G-d is there... Which I agree, makes sense. But then, what about demons approaching HaShem to condemn people and ask G-d for stuff... like in Job. OR is that ability/privelage only given to lucifer and not just 'ordaniary' demons?

Ok, what about demons (in humans) approaching Yeshua? Well, they were manifest in Humans though... not places.

Where in scripture does it mention a PLACE having spirit beings...? (Aside from 'princes' over certain countries...) Well, break that down and you could have an anoying spirit with jurisdiction over a neighborhood block perhaps???

So, (sorry I"m going on about this!) If I dig up the yard and rid it of any questionable objects... then search the attic, the hidden fireplace, and any other place that might have questionable objects hidden there.... repaint, new carpet... clean it all out... pray arround the property line & in the rooms of the house... I'm thinking that ought to cover it.

Also, do a self check...a self cleaning :) Set up that 'dark' room as place of worship to HaShem... mezuzah's... that should do the trick!

You know, Tishri brought up a good point... I think when we as humans refuse to get rid of symbolic objects offensive to HaShem, then we allow the spirits to stay with us... Which, BTW, reminsd me I need to get rid of some mason objects my FIL gave us that belonged to his father & himself. I put the stuff in a small chest & out of the way... but we need to give them back to the FIL. Even if they are 'heirlooms'...Don't need that kind.

[visionary]

Also, Vis says that they can't come arround when the presence of G-d is there... Which I agree, makes sense. But then, what about demons approaching HaShem to condemn people and ask G-d for stuff... like in Job. OR is that ability/privelage only given to lucifer and not just 'ordaniary' demons? From what I understand, they are not allowed in heaven anymore. What privileges they had at the time of Job are over. Ever since Yeshua died on the cross, heaven has not looked favorably upon the troop of Satan.

Mt 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. By the Spirit of God devils are cast out.

Mt 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. This verse tells me that Satan isn't allowed in heaven any more. Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

[Tishri1]

Mason's are playing with fire and most don't even realise it! Try to get some videos from "the Prophesy Club" to give to dear FIL and pray that he recieves it cus he should get rid of all that stuff and whatever else he has... a great book for him is called "Biblical Foundations of Freedom" (by Art Mathias) if he is feeling tormented or even if he has illnesses common to Masons. there are generational spirits attached to the masons but fear not ...just rebuke them and don't fear....fear is what got to Job ya know

Job 3:25 25 "For (1a)what I fear comes upon me, And what I dread befalls me.

Psalm 23:4 4 Even though I (a)walk through the (1)valley of the shadow of death, I (b)fear no (2)evil; for (c)Thou art with me; Thy (d)rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.

http://www.prophecyclub.com/bookstore/index.php?CategoryID=11

http://www.akwellspring.com/

[AlikhnKwizad]

You know, masonry is a real stronghold in the FIL. His "christian" wife & her "christian" parents think it's no big deal. He doesn't participate in it anymore... but he sure will use the contacts if the opertunity arises! I've talked w/ them all before... they are very close-minded, very naive, lack discernment, etc. There is a spirit arround FIL that DOES NOT like me AT ALL. Anyway, FIL will not denounce masonry... I don't know if taking him to Egypt & showing him one of their occultic services would even change him. It's a generational thing... FIL's dad was also in it.

My husband has renounced it... but his dad holds on to lots of his demons... I am wondering wether to talk w/ him again.

See, oh... it's a long story (full of manipulation and lies) would take a bit to unfold. I'll go into it only if you would like :)

Thing is, he sort of likes his demons. He isn't afraid... they get him money! They've set up camp in his life, and they won't leave w/o a fight. The "Catch" here (and w/ masons, I've found, there is ALWAYS a catch) is that my husband is financially relying on him. (Also long story) but DH is trying to break out of that... but it is very hard... big spiritual battle there!

I'm the type that's like "OK, lets fight this thing out 'till we come to a conclusion!" But I think it might be a long fight... And what would be better for our family??? I think maybe moving away!!! :)

[Mikhail]

Hi All,
I want to sure with you something that we did when we moved into a rental house about 27 Months ago.

We sensed that we needed to clean this house spiritually in fact I had such a sense of battle over it that to this day I felt that I was literally on the property the Principality of the area had as it's throne.

Not to be deterred we prayed anointed the doorposts and the 4 corners of the property with oil and prayer.

A friend came over and sensed that a previous occupant had been beaten by her husband so we prayed about that too.

In fact of all the houses I have ever lived in to this day I have never prayed and annointed a house to the degree that we did with that one.

Interstingly it was about 3 months or so later that my wife and I were having a tense day she had been on my case all day about various things. Any we argued she rushed at me we struggled the next thing I realised I had hit her. Not something I am proud of but it happened. Now the interesting thing is that she left me after that I had never hit her in 10 years of Marriage nor even lifted my hand in anger against her so why now all of a sudden. She as many of you know left me after that and and had me forcebly removed from that property so she could return without me beng there. But over the last 24 months I have never seen a woman so overwhelmed in fear to the degree that she is.

Makes me wonder if that spirit of fear is what is behind what we have gone through, I am just recalling that even our 3 year old at the time we had to teach her to rebuke the devils that would harass her as she went to sleep or in in her dreams she caled them funny men which we eventually worked out were devils. On one occassion my wife and I took authority over this thing but she could still see this funny man as she called it (he would eat her dolly's head she said). So I told her you pray and command him to go in Jesus name which she was hesitant to do but I encoraged her that she could. After she told this spirit to go in Jesus name. I asked her is he still there she said no he is gone now.

So my advice is Pray over the house but do the opposite and not make that room of any spiritual significance at all but treat it just like any other room. HaSatan likes to hijack spiritual things so giving it no extra spiritual meaning denies him this right.
Shalom,
Mikhail

[Tishri1]

I would like to submit that our Authority over these buggers is enough when it comes to our children getting harrassed and it's good to teach them through example so that when they are grown they will seek to follow our example, but they are much to young to "command" at their age...I'm still wondering myself how much of a role should WE play in engaging them.

I do know that they have no Authority in our lives unless we open the door through fear/unbelief, and bitterness/resentment and of course sin. Also they may show up to see if they have any hooks into us through our ancestory, but the scripures say greater is He (the Father's power)that is in you than He (principalities and powers) that is in the world.

I believe our presence bothers them so much and that is why they are aroused in other people. If we get "in the flesh" then they've GOT US: permission granted,access granted to harrass us and our family too.

Why they seem to be in dwelling places is still a mystery, but they need Authority to stay there ,or ignorance on our part might keep them around for awhile too.

We should never hesitate to aproach ABBA when it comes to these buggers, ask him to show us the cracks in our armor (ie sin) and be quick to repent (on behalf of ourseves and our families) and thus disarm these spirits from their rights to do us harm. Draw near over and over again, even fasting and praying again(fasting is away to silence our flesh when it is having a problem listening...like a time out chair).

Our dilegence to stand firm without fear is key...

[Tishri1]

Mason's are playing with fire and most don't even realise it! Try to get some videos from "the Prophesy Club" to give to dear FIL and pray that he recieves it cus he should get rid of all that stuff and whatever else he has... a great book for him is called "Biblical Foundations of Freedom" (by Art Mathias) if he is feeling tormented or even if he has illnesses common to Masons. there are generational spirits attached to the masons but fear not ...just rebuke them and don't fear....fear is what got to Job ya know

Job 3:25 25 "For (1a)what I fear comes upon me, And what I dread befalls me.

Psalm 23:4 4 Even though I (a)walk through the (1)valley of the shadow of death, I (b)fear no (2)evil; for (c)Thou art with me; Thy (d)rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.

http://www.prophecyclub.com/bookstore/index.php?CategoryID=11

http://www.akwellspring.com/ Hi Nilah,:wave:
then I suggest that you get some of these helps, especially this book "Biblical Foundations of Freedom" (by Art Mathias) as you are NOT a slave to those harrassing spirits even if you are connected to your FIL thru a debt...In fact if I may be so BOLD, YOU have the power to silence those buggers every time you visit your inlaws IN THEIR HOUSE, because your authority no matter where you are is greater than any bugger any where.

We need to GET THIS especially as we get closer to the End Times. As all this occultic activity increases in the world, it doesn't mean we are losing ground here, no not at all ;but THEY would like US to think so.

We must not shrink back in fear and tip-toe around even our relative's friends (If you know what I mean);)

How to deal with them is tricky though as I am slowly seeing that our ties to the world is more of a hindrence to us than their power, it's a connection they bank on to take our authority away. The more housecleaning we do in ourselves, the more AJAX we have working against them.

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