Livyatan

[talmidim]

In response to a thread that referrenced:Psa 74:14 You broke the heads of Livyatan in pieces. You gave him as food to people and desert creatures....I posted a recipe for fish ball soup substituting Livyatan for the fish. Now I can't find the thread and a search of my posts will only take me back 50 threads. What gives? I really need that recipe. Anyone remember the tread or have it in your subscriptions?

[Ahavah]

Sorry I can't help you, but you got my thread started with Dragons. ;) Wondering if there is a relationship with the Livyatan and Dragon?:scratch:

[Sephania]

Tal, I tried looking under the Psalms threads debi posted, but no 74, I tried under passover, recipes and matzoh, but no go. Do you remember the name of the thread title? I do remember you posting that, but not which thread.

[Bon]

Like I said in another post......this forum is like a black hole, what goes in never comes out......just like us really. ;)

[visionary]

Have you also noticeed that "search" does not pull up MJ thread?

[Bon]

Have you also noticeed that "search" does not pull up MJ thread?

That could be why, because 99.9% of the time, I'm looking for something in the MJ forum.

Now why would that be do you think? :scratch:

[talmidim]

Todah, one and all. I guess I'll just try to keep my subscriptions up to date. That seems to be the only link with old threads.

[Torah]

Talmidim If you posted on the thred that you are searching for, you can go to “Favorites” and find the thread thought your posting. Does this make sense? I have found old post this way.

[Sephania]

I also looked for Matzoh ball soup but found nothing. If your subscriptions havent been erased look under favs from top menu bar like Torah said and you may be able to find it sense you posted on it. :)

[Sephania]

Like I said in another post......this forum is like a black hole, what goes in never comes out......just like us really. ;)


The Livyatan ball soup recipe falls into the Great Abyss! :eek:

[Sephania]

Has anyone thought about why it was translated in all English translation ( Christian) as Leviathan?:scratch:

[talmidim]

Here it is! The Livyatan ball soup recipe returns from the Great Abyss!

Thanks for the "Favs" suggestion, Torah. It worked. :clap: It was under this thread: http://www.christianforums.com/t1121982-satan.html


1 whole livyatan (or other fatty fish)

Have the fish market fillet it and give you the bones and skin for
broth. At this time of year the fish market will probably grind the
livyatan for you too, which is an enormous time saver.


Broth

4 kazillion onions cut in half
4-6 kazillion stalks of celery (including leafy parts)
2 kazillion whole carrots
livyatan bones and skin

Put above ingredients in the largest pot you own and cover it with
water. Bring to a boil and simmer for 2-3 hours. This should make
a fairly rich stock.


Livyatan Balls (Don't ask!)

2 large onions, ground through a meat grinder
livyatan fillets ground through a meat grinder separately from the onions.
Sometimes the fish market will do this for you. Food processors
do not work well for this.
1 kazillion tsp sugar (optional)
1 kazillion tsp white pepper
1 kazillion tsp salt
approximately 1/4 kazillion cups matzo meal
4 kazillion egg whites
2 kazillion egg yolks
1/2 kazillion cups extremely cold water

In a wooden bowl, using a round bladed chopper chop ground livyatan
and ground onions. Use a turning motion, working as much air in
a possible. (This is where the visual aids come in handy.)

Chop for about 10 minutes. Add matzo meal and spices and keep chopping
using the same motions (about 5 more minutes). Beat egg whites
until frothy (not stiff) and pour over the livyatan mixture. Beat egg
yolks well, add the very cold water and pour over livyatan mixture.
DO NOT MIX. Chop the mixture, adding more air, until eggs are well
worked in.

Strain livyatan broth and bring back to a gentle simmer. Make balls
of the livyatan mixture (handle as little as possible) and drop gentley
in broth. Peel and slice carrots into 1/4 inch rounds and add to
broth. Partially cover and simmer for about 2 hours. Turn the
balls occasionally if there are too many for them to turn on their
own.

When cooked, remove livyatan balls and place in a single layer in
storage containers. Remove carrot slices from broth and put one
carrot on each fish ball. Refrigerate.

Bring livyatan broth to a boil and boil lightly for about 3 hours, or
until reduced to 1/3 - 1/2 of its original volume. Pour reduces
broth over livyatan balls and refrigerate until cold and broth has
jelled. Serve cold with horse raddish.

Serves about 20,000,000,000,000,000 people with leftovers.

Now you can see why I was looking for so long and hard. You won't find this recipe on just ANY website!

[Shimshon]

Has anyone thought about why it was translated in all English translation ( Christian) as Leviathan?:scratch:It's all in the roots.;)

Seriously though, they share the same root of Lavah; joined to. also used for borrow or lend.

[Shimshon]

Zayit, are you aware of the usage of the term "tan" in hebrew? It refers to 'dragon'. As in Sa'Tan. Levyatan, Lavah Tan. To be joined to the dragon.

[Torah]

:blush:

[Sephania]

Zayit, are you aware of the usage of the term "tan" in hebrew? It refers to 'dragon'. As in Sa'Tan. Levyatan, Lavah Tan. To be joined to the dragon.

Cool :thumbsup: Hmm, I will have to get out my paleohebrew later as I remember something about this.

[talmidim]

talmidim
This Broth freezes well for future use. Also if you use turkey bones or chicken bones instead of the fish it makes a good stock for matzo ball soup and can be frozen.
Now about this “Livyatan Balls” I’m going to give this a try. :thumbsup:
Thanks!Baruch HaShem, Torah! One day we will all give this a try, Amien? :clap:

[talmidim]

Zayit, are you aware of the usage of the term "tan" in hebrew? It refers to 'dragon'. As in Sa'Tan. Levyatan, Lavah Tan. To be joined to the dragon.*quarter note floating* There's a rep in my heart (sung to: There is a song in my heart)

[Mikhail]

Zayit, are you aware of the usage of the term "tan" in hebrew? It refers to 'dragon'. As in Sa'Tan. Levyatan, Lavah Tan. To be joined to the dragon.
That was great Shimshon :thumbsup:
I have stated learning Hebrew and it is such an amazing rich language compared to english. I can almost read 5 words a minute in Hebrew now.:D ^_^
Shalom,
Mikhail

[talmidim]

Zayit, are you aware of the usage of the term "tan" in hebrew? It refers to 'dragon'. As in Sa'Tan. Levyatan, Lavah Tan. To be joined to the dragon.Hey Shimshon,

Help us Hebrew illiterates out with the "Sa" portion of Sa'Tan, OK? Todah!

[Sephania]

'SATAN' is spelt with a Sin and not a SHin, so the sound would be "S'tan', not as 'Saay -tan', right?


Also I found this:



The Hebrew word for "snake" is "nakhash", and "tan" (tav-nun) means "jackal". "Tanin" is a sort of crocodile, so this is the closest I can get to "serpent" in Hebrew. I have no idea about Egyptian, but I there know there has been some influence on Hebrew names from that side.





The Hebrews did not invert the word Tan because the Tanaim, in Hebrew, are those who "know what the angels know." The Tanaim are the True Magi.



'Tan' While it can in some cases mean a "snake," it can also mean other. The Hebrew word is tanniyn { tan-neen’} or tanniym (Ezek 29:3) { tan-neem’}

AV - dragon 21, serpent 3, whale 3, sea monster 1; 28

GK - 9490 { ÷yNIT'

1) dragon, serpent, sea monster

1a) dragon or dinosaur

1b) sea or river monster

1c) serpent, venomous snake1

Enhanced Strong's Lexicon 1995


Not a whale but a dragon? http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=08565

[talmidim]

'SATAN' is spelt with a Sin and not a SHin, so the sound would be "S'tan', not as 'Saay -tan', right?


Also I found this:





'Tan' While it can in some cases mean a "snake," it can also mean other. The Hebrew word is tanniyn { tan-neen’} or tanniym (Ezek 29:3) { tan-neem’}

AV - dragon 21, serpent 3, whale 3, sea monster 1; 28

GK - 9490 { ÷yNIT'

1) dragon, serpent, sea monster

1a) dragon or dinosaur

1b) sea or river monster

1c) serpent, venomous snake1

Enhanced Strong's Lexicon 1995


Not a whale but a dragon? http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=08565

I followed the link above and then followed the imbedded links for occuances of the word "tan" in the KJV as "whale" and then all the other translations as "jackal". When viewed from the perspective of "dragon" it gives a brand new meaning to some of those scriptures. Good call Zayit.

[Sephania]

It's what my husband calls a "sneaky snake" ;) See he is like a chameleon ( sp?) in the bible, changing form, or so it seems, but notice that he is still always reptilian? And all reptiles are unclean to us. ;)