HELP! Question on spiritual warfare

[AlikhnKwizad]

OK, I might've mentioned this before, I don't remember.

My question: What do you do when you are surrounded by people who are indirectly influenced by demons? When these people are your parents & in-laws?! All four would call themselves christians. Two of them go to church.

Both families have "issues"... well I guess everyone does. But ever since my DH and I got married & became "Messianic" our parents have gotten weirder... weirder in general & weird tward us.

I'm talking manipulation, lies, split personality type stuff, OCD type stuff... and general negativity tward my husband & I.

Like they don't quite know what to do with us... like demons they've kept arroung for years start screaming when we walk into the room. We are constantly being bombarded with some really heavy, dark, negative stuff... It's like the twilight zone.

How should we handle this?
Thanks! Nilahk

[Torah]

My family has always been bigots, [they hate all people equal] As for me and mine. We just stayed away. We just go over for Thanksgiving. And, when or if, they start there “stuff’ I would tell my family. “Lets go” and we would go home. When someone would ask why I split, I tell them. Now! they’re starting to calm down. My sister even tried to serve kosher food at thanksgiving this year. I go around a little more now. But if someone starts there “stuff” away we go. [Example: When my wife discovered her family was Jewish my mother said. “Don’t tell me my grandkids have Jew blood in them”. I just said “everyone in the car”. And split. Stayed away for 6 month then called and said, “If you want to see us, keep your comments to your self [.]
PS. I never stop praying for my Mom & Dad. From 1976 I have said this payer: "L-rd may my mother and father not go into there grave until they know you". In 1999 my mother made that step, She past away in 2002. My Dad is next.

[AlikhnKwizad]

wow- that is encouraging.

[Sephania]

You need to turn to the Ruach HaKodesh, ask him to lead you in prayer concerning this, he alone knows exactly how to respond, because he knows just what spirits are oppressing your family. You need to do this before you go see them so you are protected from this coming home with you. Lying spirits are prevelent now,as well as deception, division, aggression, fear, and uncertainty. But the Ruach will know which ones have attached themselves to your family members and guide you in all things to pray against.
Remember he who lives in you is greater than all! :clap: Halleluyah!

[AlikhnKwizad]

Ok- tell me more.

I can pretty much identify when one of the spirits is in control- when it's speaking through the FIL. Sometimes he's just fine- then, suddenly, he just turns weird. I've even had a dream about one of them.

I've confronted him when he was being, um... showing that 'other side'... but there is such a strugle w/in himself... And they are VERY MUCH in our business. They are paying for DH's schooling.

I believe we are on the brink of another blow up type thing with him... so far we have avoided all things that could set of his 'other' personality... but his wife is noticing it... and her parents are so religiously christian... they try to 'counsel' my FIL... but they are so blind to what's going on!!!

They believe my FIL is just not that smart, and is trying so hard to be a good christian, and that he knows all about G-d & the bible... and yet, they were speechless when I told them that FIL didn't even know why muslims, and hindus (good people, you know) don't go to heaven.

He IS smart, he could be considered by some to be a very good con, he DOES have (deep inside) a heart for HaShem... but he won't get rid of his demons!!!

So, what to do? We would have to move far away! Or, have some kind of confrontation (which he usually starts.)

[Tishri1]

OK, I might've mentioned this before, I don't remember.

My question: What do you do when you are surrounded by people who are indirectly influenced by demons? When these people are your parents & in-laws?! All four would call themselves christians. Two of them go to church.

Both families have "issues"... well I guess everyone does. But ever since my DH and I got married & became "Messianic" our parents have gotten weirder... weirder in general & weird tward us.

I'm talking manipulation, lies, split personality type stuff, OCD type stuff... and general negativity tward my husband & I.

Like they don't quite know what to do with us... like demons they've kept arroung for years start screaming when we walk into the room. We are constantly being bombarded with some really heavy, dark, negative stuff... It's like the twilight zone.

How should we handle this?
Thanks! Nilahk

I believe you have authority over those buggers (if that's what your dealing with here) you can't cast them out if the Host is welcoming them in, BUT they don't have to be a bother to you and your family.

Just tell them to shut up and remain quite in Yeshua's name till your visit is over. And keep praying for the time to talk to your parents about this cus remember that their lives are being tormented as well:pray:.

Also forgive them for any resentment you may have against them for their behavior cus remember we don't fight against the flesh...

I have a book to recommend to your parents if they are willing to read it

http://www.akwellspring.com/store/index.html

Biblical Foundations of Freedom
Art Mathias, Ph.D. Dr. Mathias teaches how to have victory over bitterness, jealousy, envy, rejection, fear and the occult by aligning our lives with the Word of God.

I have learned that most demonic activity in a christian or anyone starts in these areas when bitterness gets out of control and isn't dealt with.... and the demonic activity quickly ends when it is dealt with thru repentance and forgiveness:pray:

[jontinoregon]

When I speak truth, God's word to someone who is willing to listen, it makes an impact. If they aren't willing to listen, it does little it appears. I have seen a 'light' go on in a persons eyes when they hear God's word the truth, and they know it, they even make comments like "I see". Once they have it though, often times the deceiver comes and takes it away (ala the parable of the sower) and the next time I talk with them, the light is gone and they say something like "I don't want to hear anymore", or "I talked to ... and they told me what this is about..." and they won't even talk about it. But if I can just get them to listen to one bit of truth, then they start to 'see' again and it opens a 'door'.

As long as someone will listen, you can share light, and where light is, darkness can't dwell. The Psalms are a great place to look for 'shields' against all sorts of darkness. David shares some intimate troubles, and he always shares that meditating on God's Torah is what gives him strength and guidance.

[AlikhnKwizad]

There is a huge wall when it comes to my parents. YEARS of anger & bitterness on top of even MORE YEARS of hurt & resentment. Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall.

The in-laws... active spiritual warfare there... but if I catch them when they are having an "open" moment- there might be a possibility... but they's have to be surrounded by strong believers to maintain their understanding...

[visionary]

Silence in their presence and praying through your entire encounter that the Lord works on them.

2Ch 20:17 You won't even need to fight this battle! Just take your positions, Y'hudah and Yerushalayim, stand still, and watch how ADONAI will deliver you! Don't be afraid or distressed; tomorrow, go out against them; for ADONAI is with you.'"

The Lord showed me that often the greatest witness is the watching the Lord do the work. I have prayed that the Lord would open my eyes so that I could see and hear Him work in the other's lives. I was instructed to stand and be still and see the Lord do the work. The other party was very vocal and active before my eyes. But that is no what I heard or saw. The Lord was explaining to me what was going on, so that may pray more decisively as each thought battle went on. The other party finally came around, and allowed the Holy Spirit to work in their heart before my eyes. I know that the Lord gave me the privilege to hear and see what was going on inside the other party so that I could be a spiritual prayer partner the Lord needed for this battle. The other party never saw me do anything but stand there and listen to them rant and rave. I was so taken up with what the Lord was showing me and telling me, that I was in awe of the presence of the Lord during all this and the impact of what the other party was trying to impress upon me was fading into the background. Kind of hard to explain, but a great experience.

So what I am saying is that even in the midst of the most trying of times your experience with the Lord can be so awesome that the Lord allows you to see and hear His workings before you in another person. All you will be doing is praying and praising the Lord for the miracle of transformation that will be happening before you.

Hope that you have the same experience. Take that verse above and claim it as a promise for your own. May the Lord step in and do the works of salvation that are His to begin with.

[AlikhnKwizad]

"Stand still" ... my knees are weak! I think I'm going to faint! Quick- get some water! :)

Vis- I understand what you were describing. That is an awsome thing! What you have said applies so much to the situation w/ my in-laws. I will stand firm & watch HaShem work! (And pray he brings me some water to revive me in the process (just in case.))

[visionary]

"Stand still" ... my knees are weak! I think I'm going to faint! Quick- get some water! :)

Vis- I understand what you were describing. That is an awsome thing! What you have said applies so much to the situation w/ my in-laws. I will stand firm & watch HaShem work! (And pray he brings me some water to revive me in the process (just in case.))That's what I thought when I experienced it.

[By Grace]

There is a huge wall when it comes to my parents. YEARS of anger & bitterness on top of even MORE YEARS of hurt & resentment. Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall.

Do you remember my daughter's prayer from the other day? If nothing else, thank G-d for the door (or the wall) in front of your face! Even if it seems to be an obstacle right now, G-d can use this "wall" to accomplish amazing things, and glorify Himself in the process.