The Role of Israel

[Martin]

Do you believe that Israel has a role to play in return of Yeshua/Jesus, and if so, what role do you believe that to be?

[prodigal]

By Israel, do you mean those born in Israel, or do you mean those of us grafted in, "true Israel"?

[Noa]

Originally posted by prodigal
By Israel, do you mean those born in Israel, or do you mean those of us grafted in, "true Israel"?
There is ONE True Israel: the Jews and Israëli´s. G´d wouldn´t never break His promise like we always do!

Yes, we will have a role. The earthly future. The christians will have the heavenly future.

Noa

[Martin]

I meant Israel in the Jewish sense...... I believe that Israel will have to acknowledge that Yeshua/Jesus was the Messiah, repent of their sin before He will return.....

Any thoughts?

[Noa]

Originally posted by Martin
[B]I meant Israel in the Jewish sense...... I believe that Israel will have to acknowledge that Yeshua/Jesus was the Messiah, repent of their sin before He will return.....

They will when the antichrist is arrived. And then they will be saved (Rom.11-26 and Zachary).

Noa

[Blessed-one]

all hell's gonna break loose in the end times, and most of it's gonna be connected with Israel, it has to be!

[Pray4Isrel]

Remember though that 144,000 Jewish evangelists will rise up during the tribulation!

[Noa]

AMEN!!

[Tallyn]

God fulfilled all his promises to Israel as a nation once they conquered the land of Canaan.

Israel is no longer a preserved people, nor will they play a big part in any future return of Christ.

Tallyn

[camaro540]

Originally posted by Pray4Isrel
Remember though that 144,000 Jewish evangelists will rise up during the tribulation!

Just curious, how did you come to this idea?

[Brian45]

Originally posted by Blessed-one
all hell's gonna break loose in the end times, and most of it's gonna be connected with Israel, it has to be!

 

yep , and Gods two wittnesses or prophets will prophecy from the city of jerusalem  ,  they will also be killed there   :

 

Revelation 11
<SUP>8</SUP>And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our<SUP>[1 (http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?passage=REV+11:8-10&amp;language=english&amp;version=NKJV&amp;showfn=on&amp;showxref=on#footnote_430775305_1)]</SUP> Lord was crucified.<SUP> 9</SUP>Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow<SUP>[2 (http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?passage=REV+11:8-10&amp;language=english&amp;version=NKJV&amp;showfn=on&amp;showxref=on#footnote_430775305_2)]</SUP> their dead bodies to be put into graves.<SUP> 10</SUP>And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.

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The scripture above proves beyond dought that it is an end times prophecy in relation to Israel&nbsp; .

1&nbsp; -&nbsp; Where also our lord was crucified .

2 -&nbsp; The nations of the world will see the dead bodies of Gods two prophets .

Prior to the modern electronic media , this would have been impossible .

The above scripture is a preterists nightmare .&nbsp; :D

[Pray4Isrel]

Camaro540,

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:
Rev 7:5 the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand,
Rev 7:6 the tribe of Asher twelve thousand, from the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand, from the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand,
Rev 7:7 the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand, from the tribe of Levi twelve thousand, from the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand,
Rev 7:8 the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand, from the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand, from the tribe of Benjamin, twelve thousand were sealed.

[Pray4Isrel]

Originally posted by Tallyn
God fulfilled all his promises to Israel as a nation once they conquered the land of Canaan.

Israel is no longer a preserved people, nor will they play a big part in any future return of Christ.

Tallyn

Not at all to come across as rude, but have you read the Bible in it's entirety?&nbsp; If you have, you would see the entire picture of the importance of Israel.&nbsp; Just curious.

[camaro540]

Hi Pray4Isrel

I guess I was wondering more what leads you to believe they will all be Jewish? There will be 12,000 from each tribe of Isreal, only 2 tribes of Isreal are Jewish.



Patrick

[ladylove]

Back to Martin's question...

Israel will absolutely play the "starring role" in Daniel's 70th week. The church will be a subplot to the major story of Israel and her redeemption. That is what the "bad guy" will so desperately try and prevent during his final hurrah.

[Noa]

Originally posted by camaro540
Hi Pray4Isrel

I guess I was wondering more what leads you to believe they will all be Jewish? There will be 12,000 from each tribe of Isreal, only 2 tribes of Isreal are Jewish.



Patrick

Three ;-)

Noa...

[Pray4Isrel]

The tribes are formed back in Genesis.