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P_G
21st April 2004, 11:55 AM
So help me out I am feeling a bit schitzophrenic today
I got a note from a mod on a board who said my icon was wrong edit your post.
OK I can take direction thats cool
So I am not really Jewish enough to be Messiainic
Too Messianic to be protestant
Probably too much or not enough of anything to be Catholic
I am Charismatic but personality isn't everything.
So what do you think what am I
I try to keep the law of Moses best I can but still have some Hellinistic tendancies.
I really beleive in the atoning work of the cross is necessary for all men but I am pretty convinced that Moses and Noah are in heaven.
When I annoint people with oil and pray over them most times they get better and right away. Sometimes they fall down. But I think most guys on TV who do this are frauds.
My dad is Catholic so was my grandma actually so was I untill about 25 years ago.
I belong to a Mennonite church but I teach there on the Tanach most of the time.
You know I know who I am and what I am I am pre-denominational thats what I am. I just hate denominations and factions so much. But what does the world say I am?
Can we start with Christ Crucified? Can we build on that?
I am only posting here cause I can. Sorry to dump.
I weep when he does over this stuff.
Pastor George :(
visionary
21st April 2004, 12:03 PM
As the Lord said, go back to your first love...there you will pick up the threads that are the Lord's leading, and as you count all the blessing along the path that Yeshua has lead, you will see that you have come a long way, and you look ahead of you at Yeshua your example in all things, and see that there is a long way to go. Yeshua never asked from you more than you can give, never wants from you more than he has made you able for. Although you may ask him if he stretches it a might further than you thought possible. But the Lord works in the area we call miracles, let He who is leading, annnoint you will gladness, bless you with His presence, and keep you under His wing.
Visionary
ShirChadash
21st April 2004, 12:27 PM
Yep, PG -- you're a believer, like me.
Sorry you had such a negative thing happen to you, Brother. I'm a pre-denominational sorta person myself -- I fit that definition I think. And I like it. My definition has just been a simple, "believer".
Messianic Judaism is no "denomination" in the first place.
I feel sad over this kind of stuff. So much for letting G-d take people where they are at, and grow them in the direction He wants them to grow, in His Way and His Timing, and His Grace....
simchat_torah
21st April 2004, 12:32 PM
I'm confused.
I don't think a messianic mod would have asked you to change your icon....
????????
Toney
21st April 2004, 12:34 PM
I just hate denominations and factions so much.
Amen to that from a quasi-Catholic Messianic Anglican Jewish sympathizer who identifies mostly with Celtic Cornwall and heretics like Pelagius but knows that G-d understands me and could care less.
simchat_torah
21st April 2004, 12:36 PM
but knows that G-d understands me.Well, that's good Toney... because I don't think any of us do... ;)
Hix
21st April 2004, 12:39 PM
Seriously, I wish I had a dollar for each time Ive been told the same. People are all too quick to judge on these matters but who you are is really up to you and G-d. I wear the torah scroll icon with pride becuase I love Torah and Im happy with who I am and with my walk with G-d.
I dont know much about all that falling down and drunk in the spirit stuff thats on TV, but accepting such doesnt make you any less of a Messianic, as far as I know. So next time someone asks you to change your icon, just tell them your sticking with the religion that Yeshua was a part of and proclaimed, Judaism. And thats all.
Shalom and G-d bless
~Hix~
debi b
21st April 2004, 12:51 PM
Ya know, we all just gotta hang in there :wave:
It's really hard sometimes.
P_G
21st April 2004, 01:10 PM
Seriously, I wish I had a dollar for each time Ive been told the same. People are all too quick to judge on these matters but who you are is really up to you and G-d. I wear the torah scroll icon with pride becuase I love Torah and Im happy with who I am and with my walk with G-d.
I dont know much about all that falling down and drunk in the spirit stuff thats on TV, but accepting such doesnt make you any less of a Messianic, as far as I know. So next time someone asks you to change your icon, just tell them your sticking with the religion that Yeshua was a part of and proclaimed, Judaism. And thats all.
Shalom and G-d bless
~Hix~
Hix you are such a good young man you know that?
No one asked me to remove my icon but they did tell me to remove a post from an arena that in truth I should be able to post in. This based on WHO I actually am not by the little cartoon icon I have. And the thing that kills me is that I always make known who and what I am so there is nothing hidden.
Its sort of like people thinking that you look like an androgynous Japanese cartoon figure (well ok you kind of do but not that much)
I am just cranky because this whole thing makes me sick. Of anyone I know I try the hardest to bridge the denominations and stuff together. That espeically since Plan 9 is all chewed up now.
What shall we say then it is better to identify with this group or that group or to identify with messiah?
Pastor George :wave:
Talmidah
21st April 2004, 01:20 PM
((((Pastor George)))) How I wish I had some wonderful words of wisdom for you. But, alas no :sigh: . The only thing I can say is that I have always appreciated the honesty and sincerity in your posts, as well as your loving nature. I'm not always that clear on the rules here (ie...I know that in the CO section, I can only post in this forum and only questions or fellowship posts), but other than that I don't always understand. I'm just so sorry that you are hurting right now. :cry:
Its sort of like people thinking that you look like an androgynous Japanese cartoon figure (well ok you kind of do but not that much)
OK...I know I shouldn't laugh right now..., but ROFLOL (sorry Hix LOL)
iitb
21st April 2004, 02:01 PM
I'll give you the advice I always give those who encounter problems in other forums: don't leave the MJ forum. ;) Honestly, why would you want to post in another forum? Are we not the best group of people on all of CF? :D
That being said, I'm going to close this thread. Nothing wrong has happened here, but the temptation to violate rule 7 is pretty good, and I'd rather not have to get on to anybody about that today. ;)
PG, you can pm either P4I or me if you want to discuss this issue further.
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