TORAH LIVING

[Yeshuaismine1985]

THERE ARE SOME SUBJECTS THAT JUST GO AROUND AND AROUND, LIKE HOW SHOULD WE OBSERVE SHABBAT, WHAT TO EAT WHAT NOT TO. OUR CONGERGATION IS DOING A STUDY ON THEY OTHER COMANDMENTS THAT ARE JUST AS INPORTANT IF NOT MORE. THE ONES FOR HOLY LIVING, LEVITICUS 19 IS WHAT WE ARE STUDYING. I'D LIKE SOME FEEDBACK FROM EVERYONE HERE. HOW CAN WE DO THESE THINGS IN TODAYS LIFESTYLE? HOW DO WE LEAVE PART OF OUR FIELDS UNHARVESTED IF WE DON'T HAVE A FIELD,HOW DO WE GIVE DIGNITY TO THOSE IN NEED, DO THEY REALLY NEED TO BEG? HOW SHOULD WE HONOR THE ELDERLY AMONG US? I THINK THIS IS A RELLY GOOD SUBJECT NOT JUST FOR OUR CONGERGATION BUT EVERYONE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT HOW TO DO THESE THINGS.THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP I KNOW I WILL GET, YOU PEOPLE ARE SO MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN I AM. AND YOU NEVER KNOW MAYBE SOMEONE WILL STRAT TO RELLY THINK ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF.

[Sephania]

Still learning, disregard previous answer.

[debi b]

I think of Shabbat as a first things first sorta deal. If you can not get that you are hindered. Shabbat is a sanctuary of time. It is set apart for Him. It is a place that we get an opportunity to lay aside us and focus on Adonai. The order of the "big 10" is figure out our relationship with the creator then we work on how that goes out from there to other people.

I have heard many people talk about "we need to love our neighbor as ourself" which is absolutly true :D But we have definitions about HOW we do that that are all too often ignored for our modern definitions of things.

The Hebrew understanding of “love” is not so much an emotional state as it is a choice.

John 14:15 Yeshua said, “If you love me (choose me), obey my commandments.”

1John 2:3-5 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected (complete/mature) in him.

In Hebrews 5:11-14 there is an equation made between obedience and maturity.

LOVE/CHOICE = OBEDIENCE = MATURITY all of these concepts should be leading us somewhere, and to a Hebraic understanding that demonstrates itself with action.

The natural outflow of a correct response to the creator will produce a correct response to man who was made “in the image of G-d”. Torah is very interested in telling us “how” this is to be accomplished.

So with regard to Shabbat if we get wrapped around by the details of doing we can easily miss the point. So, I do agree with you it is important to put in to practice/action beyond, but I really think the order is important.

[visionary]

I think of Shabbat as a first things first sorta deal. If you can not get that you are hindered. Shabbat is a sanctuary of time. It is set apart for Him. It is a place that we get an opportunity to lay aside us and focus on Adonai. The order of the "big 10" is figure out our relationship with the creator then we work on how that goes out from there to other people.

I have heard many people talk about "we need to love our neighbor as ourself" which is absolutly true :D But we have definitions about HOW we do that that are all too often ignored for our modern definitions of things.

The Hebrew understanding of “love” is not so much an emotional state as it is a choice.

John 14:15 Yeshua said, “If you love me (choose me), obey my commandments.”

1John 2:3-5 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected (complete/mature) in him.

In Hebrews 5:11-14 there is an equation made between obedience and maturity.

LOVE/CHOICE = OBEDIENCE = MATURITY all of these concepts should be leading us somewhere, and to a Hebraic understanding that demonstrates itself with action.

The natural outflow of a correct response to the creator will produce a correct response to man who was made “in the image of G-d”. Torah is very interested in telling us “how” this is to be accomplished.

So with regard to Shabbat if we get wrapped around by the details of doing we can easily miss the point. So, I do agree with you it is important to put in to practice/action beyond, but I really think the order is important. :bow: