Does God want everyone to be healed?

[Droobie]

Is it God's will for everyone to be healed?

[Othniel]

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.


Peace to all who seek it.
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[ZiSunka]

I have never seen anything in the Bible that says God heals everyone, and in observation, I have seen that even his most faithful servants who ask with the utmost faith and humility die, like everyone else.

The notion that God wills for everyone to be healed is a dangerous misunderstanding, that ruins the faith of many people whose loved ones fall ill and die.

[sr. scholls]

Here, here!

[lucypevensie]

I agree with that too

[OldBadfish]

I believe the answer is no.

[Mandy]

The answer is no. Paul was afflicted and prayed, but God told him, His grace was sufficient. Timothy had health problems too, which is why Paul told him to take a little wine for his stomach and frequent infirmities.

[Othniel]

I agree with the statements in regard to illness...so perhaps the poll needs clarification. What is meant when they ask "healed?" physical or spiritual? The quote from 2 Peter is more than enough proff for God's will in regards to spiritual healing. Physcial pain, however, we are to treat with joy as discipline from the Lord...that is an entirely different issue. It is a great error among Christians to think that death is a bad thing...to die is gain!

PEace to all who seek it,
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[Martin]

Jesus reveals the will of the Father.
He only ever did what the Father wanted.
To know the Father's will you only have to look at Jesus.

NOWHERE does Jesus ever refuse to heal anyone.
Jesus NEVER postponed healing He heals everyone who asks Him when they ask Him
When ten lepers came to be healed, they ALL got healed...
He even healed a man on the Sabbath because He wasn't willing that he should suffer one day longer...
Jesus NEVER indicated in ANY way that it was not God's timing for someone to be healed.
Jesus NEVER said that sickness was doing someone any good, strengthening their character, or whatever.

The only condition for healing is that you come to Jesus.
Yes, I believe that God wants everyone to be healed.

[Othniel]

Originally posted by Martin
NOWHERE does Jesus ever refuse to heal anyone.
Jesus NEVER indicated in ANY way that it was not God's timing for someone to be healed.
Jesus NEVER said that sickness was doing someone any good, strengthening their character, or whatever.


not exactly...

"This happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life." -Christ (John 9)

and

"he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith." (Matt 13:58)

Furthermore, everyone who was healed by Christ, physcially or Spiritually, still died an earthly death eventually. This is important for those who deal with a dying loved one to remember. We are to pray for healing, but we are first to pray "Thy will be done!" The Lord gives and the Lord takes away.

Peace to all who seek it,
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[Martin]

"he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith." (Matt 13:58)

Othniel,
You're quite right...His ability to heal was based on the faith of those who were sick, to believe that He could do it. By coming to Him and asking (in faith), they were all healed.

I re-iterate, come to Jesus for your healing and have faith in Him to heal you.

[Gerry]

If it was God's will to always heal, no one would ever die of any disease. And if it had to do with having enough faith, God would also supply that since He is the one who supplies the sufficient faith to be saved in the first place. God will meet you where you are if it is Him you seek.

[Judy B.]

I agree wholeheartedly!! Paul asked the Lord three times to remove his thorn and the Lord said NO. His grace is sufficient for us!! :)

[sr. scholls]

Once again, I agree with that Othniel.

[jrmorganjr]

We're getting into the very thorny subject of what "will", especially "God's will", is. Was it God's will that Adam should sin? No, of course not. But he allowed it because he valued our free will ability to choose (to love Him) more.

Lee Meriweather (I think) wrote a book on "The Will of God" that broke down God's will into 4 types. My memory's kind of hazy on the specifics, and I didn't agree 100%, but I did think it clear that God has will which are like "intentions" that other considerations can temporarily thwart. Like us making bad choices preventing Him from blessing us. But He wills other things which are immutable, such as His Word accomplishing what he sent it out to do ("It shall not return unto Him void.") I would also put the surety of the elect in this category.

So my answer is "yes", in the sense that he wants only good things for us, and disease/physical ailments are bad things that are the result of a fallen world. Now, given free will and a fallen world consequence, is it God's will that everyone should be disease/ailment free? No. Choice and sin have consequences, and we have chosen poorly. How does he choose who He will heal? By choosing how His glory can best be revealed. Those who come to Him in faith make themselves candidates through which He may choose to reveal His glory and goodness. He may also choose to reveal His glory by letting sin's consequences stand, that the character of His justice may shine.

[Gunny]

Yep, the elder deacon said the Adamic curse ushered into the world all afflictions and God ain't gonna heal em' all saved or unsaved.

GySgt
James

[Droobie]

Perhaps to clarify the question...

It is God's will that everyone is to be healed... However, not everyone does recieve healing. Healing is available to all... christians & non-christians. But yes, it's true that not everyone does receive healing.

4 types of healing:
First, is the natural kind. If you cut yourself, God has created our bodies so that over time our bodies will heal. Cuts close, we fight germs etc.

Second, there is remedial healing that comes from medicines, remedies, doctors, surgery etc.

Third, we are blessed by being christians that there is a covering over our lives that wards off sickness and disease.

Lastly there's the most exciting kind of healing, which is the miraculous kind.

When do we stop praying for healing? Or do we just accept that some people are to be healed, and some aren't?

[jrmorganjr]

We should never stop praying for healing. But it should always be accompanied by "thy will be done", and that we pray even more that God's glory be revealed in whatever does happen.

Praying for healing is the same as praying for anything that brings good out of a bad situation, the need is just often more pressing. It's always good to pray for good to come of bad, as long as we bracket it with being in God's will such that the furthering of His glory is accomplished.

Give God the glory in all things! Praise Him with thanksgiving for everything He does!

[Robert00023]

If God chooses to heal, he will heal. If he chooses to rebuke, he will rebuke. God chooses what he wants to choose. If God chooses to curse and put a plague on anyone who breaks his rules, he will. If God wants to put satan to hell and anyone else who is against him, he will. He's God and YOU ARE NOT.

[jrmorganjr]

Robert00023,

Are you saying that not healing someone is always a rebuke? Are you saying that God actively curses those who are saved? Just curious, I suppose, with regard to the original question. You make self defining statements that are inherently true in succession, as if you were heading somewhere, but I'm not sure where that goal was meant to be. Does God will all to be healed, or a particular subset of people, or is God capriciously willful about who he will heal?

[Autumn]

I think that this is really much more simple. Do the will of your Father. Let Him heal or let Him not. He knows His creation. In all that we do let us do His will, and let Him be glorified.

[Autumn]

Originally posted by jrmorganjr
Robert00023,

Does God will all to be healed, or a particular subset of people, or is God capriciously willful about who he will heal?

I think that God wants us all to be healthy and without pain, but I think that He allows certain things to continue for the simple reason that He can see ahead at the better good. We will not be free from pain until we are in our heavenly bodies. It is important to act on His will for our lives as these earthly bodies are only temporary.

[DeleseRose]

:yum: I do believe it's GOD's will hat everyone be made whole. Now the question is made whole where< in the heart or in the body. Because of the selfishness and superego of man, some people do not get healed physically because weather they admit it or not,they will lose sight of GOD, thus all r not physically healed. Nt when it comes 2 the heart(soul) absolutely yes, he wants us healthy. :clap:

[HisPeculiarTreasure]

Well I just had a spin on this, in the first post where the question is asked it first says, "Does God want everyone to be healed" and then it asks "Is it His will for everyone to be healed" I think those are two dif things. In Gods heart He wants no pain(physical or spiritual) to touch anyone. He wants to make it all better He doesn't desire for any of us to hurt. But we live in a sinful world and we do hurt and sometimes it's b/c of a choice we made. He uses our mistakes and the pain in our lives for His will. So does God desire for us to all be made whole and not hurt? I say yes, is it His will for that to happen(if the world was perfect I'd say yes too, but it's not sooo.)It can't be, we messed up and now He works around the messeses we make and uses everything. Even the pain.

[Defender of the Faith 777]

I think that it's His desire that all are healed, but not His will.

[Plan 9]

When I look back to the time when I was psyically healthy, I see that I had no empathy for the suffering of others. I felt sympathy, but that's a shallow emotion.
I have also learned faith in God than I had before. Maybe other people trust in God when everything is fine, but that's not as true for me as I would like it to be.
This is not to say that I don't believe that God heals, but He is far more interested in the growth of our spiritual life than He is in our physical health.

[Joyce]

God's love for us is so great it cannot be put to words.
Do you want anyone you love to suffer, be ill, etc. ? I don't think so. Can you prevent those you love from suffering, illness, etc. ? You might say that allmighty God should be able to prevent, I'm not able. Allmighty God also refuses to act against the free will of the individual. You might ask what that has to do with suffering and sickness... Some of our sufferings, sicknesses are caused by our own pure choices (e.g. diet, leisure activities, ...). God will never overrule our free choices.
Yes, there are also situations where we see no wrong choices. But I think each choice we make influences our own life and the life of others, even if we don't see it.

[4jc]

Everything that is not of good report, or edifying is of the devil. Simple as that.
Sickness, poverty, and all other bad stuff is from the devil.
Now I am not saying we won't get sick etc..., but it is of the Father that we believe in HIM for healing.
We will be put through trials and tribulations, but I see it that, yes, God does want His children to be healed of all afflictions.
Tell me what father in this world wants his/her children to be sick? Come on now, if any of us fathers of this world want OUR children to be healed of sickness, I am sure God feels the same way.

[357magnum]

This is a short life, and all will experience illness, sorrow, pain, and physical death. The trials for a believer are nothing if you keep looking up.

[357magnum]

[B]27th March 2003 at 10:31 PM 4jc said this in Post #28 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=742254#post742254)

Everything that is not of good report, or edifying is of the devil. Simple as that.
Sickness, poverty, and all other bad stuff is from the devil.




I would respectfully disagree. I know many extremely poor people who are strong in the Lord and have wealth beyond imagination in spiritual blessings. I could say the same for health. I didn't say that I understand it. :confused:

[Konnie]

If you mean spiritual healed, yes. Thre Bible says that God is not willing that any should perish but that everyone should come to repentance.

[GlowingFirefly]

I think that God wants everyone to be healed, but he will do it when the time comes. He'll heal us when the time is right.

[ngkingchi]

Of course God wants!!!!!!!!
God loves every one on earth but some just don't follow him, he still loves them...

[bop1997]

YES all in different ways! It is not menat By GOD for us to suffer, but the world hates us for who we serve and we have to suffer for him(HE SUFFERED FO US!WHY NOT US FOR HIM?), and he heals us using us as examples for non-believers. Basically, who are we not to suffer?

[Blade]

"Jesus stretched forth his hand, and cought him, and said unto him, oh you of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?"
How little we know our lord..

Bless you Joyce...

[Servant2Him]

I believe that when thinking in terms of illness and tribulations such as wealth or the lack of it..... God's will is always at work. If we understand that God's will is to WORK THROUGH US, and we are not self centered on our own "wordly condition" then It is easy to see that many times our own lives are used to win over the lives of others. For example. Much of the strength of God is seen by non believers in the way that Christians handle the daily trials of life. Strong christians dealing with illness, death, financial difficulties and how they kept thier faith are some of the main things that allowed me to see the power of Jesus Christ. There are many christian martyrs that have died or become ill in prisons, or are born to poverty in other countries and our own. ... Lifes path led them there, and the situation is used for the will of God. Those that understand they are being used for the will of God would not asked to be healed or taken out of the situation unless it was God's will. and even if they did ask, God knows our spirit better than anyone.... he knows what we can handle more than we ourselves do becasue he knows his grace is what allows this.

Imaine the number of sick and dying childen in the world. Certainly if it were a matter of will God would just make them all well.... but all that has happened or will happen is for God's plan. Many people in the bible suffered, including Jesus. The bible tells us that many Christians will suffer because of thier faith...it seems that we as Christians may suffer more than the rest of the world here on earth... we better pull ourselves up by the boot straps and stop expecting God to keep us all healthy and in Cadillacs and start asking God to work through us to show His strength and grace through our lives to others. The bible does not show us Gods goodness through the wealth or health of His believers...... Many Chrisitans die and show God's strength by forgiving those that torture them. Would we be willing to accept God's devine plan if it meant allowing us to die from a horrible disease...to leave our families.... to suffer physically so we could show our faith and be examples to others as we live out our days with God's mercy and Grace upon us. As Christians we should need only God to feel happy.... do we now need wealth and good health also to feel complete.....are these NEEDS... by whos standards are these important.

Sorry for the long post...it is my first........ God Bless.

[SUNSTONE]

Yes God wants everyone healed.

But

You may go through a trial or tribulation, like Job, but it is only temporary.

[SpiritPsalmist]

I voted yes.

I believe, according to the Bible, it is God's desire that ALL be in right standing with Him and have all the faith necessariry to be WHOLE. In body, soul, and spirit.

I'm not there yet myself. . .but I do believe it's His desire. So when I pray for healing, I know what His will is, I pray as His will states, and then I wait for it to manifest. It may happen immediately and it may take awhile.

I know that He works all things together for good for those who are in Christ Jesus. So I know that while He will use the bad things the enemy throws at me, He in no way leaves me at the mercy of the enemy. He teaches me how to fight and beat the enemy. And the process for me is always a learning and growing time.

[Lizquest]

If it is spiritually healed then I would say yes as well.

[Poiema]

No. We tend to focu so much on the physical aspect of life rather than on the spiritual,so healing seems like such a big deal. The truthy is, ALL Christians will someday be made whole, so we will all be healed someday ... but that healing is of the sinful bodies we now inhabit. ALL physical ailments are simply symptoms of the underlying disease of Sin. So, even if a person's body is healed of a "sympton"like leprosy or cancer, the flesh is still sin-cursed. Whether we are "healed" or now, we are still burdened with this flesh of sin.
Also, God's will is sometimes that a person remain ill in this life for His Own Glory (another poster posted the verses)

[kit_kat_katie]

In Ephesians it tells us there is a time for this and a time for that. In God's time we will be healed but we have to be persistant with our prayers like the widow who was persistant with the judge in Luke.

[Sunny Smile]

When I hear,"Jesus will heal you." I never think of physical healing. Our bodies are like the wrapping on a twinkie: fragile, temporary, and containing sweet stuff. Our soul, like the twinkie will last forever.

[mesue]

Healed? Of what?
... God is not willing that any should perish but all should come to repentance.
2 Peter 3:9b
Some have afflictions to bring glory and honor to God. I think of Joni Erikson-Tada as an example of not being healed but bringing much honor to the Lord

[semodana]

Some may think I am off base here but i work as a Registered Nurse and have seen many people who are gravely ill. Their family prays for healing of their loved one but sometime God's will is not necessary healing that would allow one to stay on this earth. To me healing also means to enter heaven....were there is no sickness, pain or difficulties as we have here on earth. So in essense I guess I am saying if a Christain is ill and dies then they recieve the ultimate healing...
Dana :angel:

[Schae7]

I believe that God does want everyone healed spiritualy. I don't think God denys physical healing either. Its a matter of how much faith a person has. (I don't believe my faith is up to that point yet. I'm working on it) The bible says that with the smallest amount of faith we can move mountains. It also says that if two of us are in agreement about something that is in the name of God it won't be denied. To often we forget that Jesus is not only our savior but our healer as well. We also forget that there is evil whose purpose is to hinder our healing. Its not always about God denying. God is a healing God and the devil is here to help us to get in our own way. We also forget that Gods time is not our time. Isaiah 53:4-5, TLB. "Yet it was our grief He bore, our sorrows that weighed Him down. And we thought His troubles were a punishment from God, for His own sins! But He was wounded and bruised for our sins. He was chastised that we might have peace; He was lashed--and we are healed." Mark 9:23, NIV. "Everything is possible for him who believes."

[Schae7]

I agree semodana. We all have our own definition of healing and when God heals us in the way he sees is right a lot of times we completly miss that because of what we think we know. I think we would have to define what is meant by healing to accurately answer this question.

[lachlan]

Third, we are blessed by being christians that there is a covering over our lives that wards off sickness and disease.


I'm sorry but I could not believe this statement when I first read it. Are you for real? I find the notion that people could receive extra immunity from illness and sickness simply because of their acceptance of God to be, quite frankly, preposterous nonsense. Following God as a Christian is not an immunity against disease, it is a spiritual decision that an individual makes to follow the Lord and try to live their life to serve him. Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I can recall, nowhere in the bible does it say that those who choose Christianity will receive a "covering over their lives" to protct from disease superior to those who do not believe in, or choose not to follow God. Christians are not exempt from, or even less susceptible to illness just because of their faith.

As you can probably tell, I voted that it is not God's will that everybody be healed, according to the Christian faith. To those who say that it is just a matter of the degree of your faith, are you saying that whether or not you will be healed depends on the degree of your faith in God? I'm sorry if I have misinterpreted you, but this to me seems illogical. Just from the personal experiences that I have had with people who have been "miraculously" healed, their degree of faith in God, or even in some cases their belief in God, has not correlated with whether or not they have been healed.

[gusto5]

id say yes. only there's people who wont accept it/

[MikeMcK]

Does He want everyone to be healed? What loving Father woudn't? Is it in His divine will? No.

[Droobie]

Hang on... so you're saying that it is not God's divine will that everyone is to be healed? God would 'want' people to remain sick/injured/diabled?

[MikeMcK]

Hang on... so you're saying that it is not God's divine will that everyone is to be healed?
It depends on how you're defining healing. If you're defining healing as the relief of physical illness, then no.

What you have to remember is that God sees the big picture. It's a little arrogant for us to say what God would or should do when we only see a very small piece of reality and a temporary one, at that, and God sees all of eternity.

Every Christian will be healed. It just may not be in this Earthly lifetime.

God would 'want' people to remain sick/injured/diabled?
No. In fact, if you go back and read my post, you'll see that I said "what loving father wouldn't [want his children to be healed]", implying that, no, God doesn't want His children to be sick.

The problem for us is that God is a good father and, as such, He is not concered with our temporary comfort as much as He is concerned with our spiritual condition, which is not temporary, but eternal. God does allow His children to be sick but not out of neglectfulness and certainly not out of maliciousness. He allows us to be sick so that, as in the case of the man born blind, He may be glorified through us and so that we may become like Him.

God allows suffering but only for our greater good.

[Droobie]

Well said Mike. However I would put it to you that while God does allow sickness in our lives, it is not His will that we remain or are sick at all. I myself could not think that God would 'want' anyone to be sick, as you say as a loving Father would.

I believe that it is a trick of the devil to have us think that "Oh... I'm sick because God wants me to be sick so I can be a testimony to Him, or that God wants to make an example to others out of my suffering." I believe it to be one of the keys to faith and healing that you know that God wants you whole!

In so saying, I believe there is a difference to what God wills, and what He permits. But don't fall into the trap in thinking that what He permits, is what He wants. I would presume to know that God wants us healed, just as He wants us saved.

What do others think about this?

[oneshot012]

Yes i believed that God want's to heal all
Matthew 8
16 When evening came, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed; and He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were ill. (NASB)

Matthew 12
15 But Jesus, aware of this, withdrew from there. Many followed Him, and He healed them all, (NASB)

Also Santan came to harm us and Christ came to free us:
Luke 4
18
" THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME,
BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR.
HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES,
AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND,
TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED,
19
TO PROCLAIM THE FAVORABLE YEAR OF THE LORD." (NASB)

He came to free us and we are one with Christ and that same power that raised Christ from the dead now abides in us.

John 10
10 "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly.(NASB)

Christ came to gives us the authority and when he left he sent us a counselor and allowed us to lay hold of the promise of John 14:12 so therfore it is my personal belief that God wants us all to be healed.

[loveHIM_liveHIM]

Sorry to disagree with ya'll... but I don't think its God's will for everyone to be healed.

I'm a type 1 diabetic (the kind that is usually genetic, not brought on my weight gain,etc) I was diagnosed when I was seven years old, and, though my parents still pray for God to heal me, my "heal me" prayers have tapered off.

God does everything for a reason, and, for reasons only He knows, it isn't His will to heal me (yet?). I believe that He's going to use this in me in some other way...

For instance, I've been envisioning a mentoring program, pairing young children (5-15ish) who've just been diagnosed with older teens (16-20ish) who've had diabetes for a while, to give the kids a feeling that everything will be ok, as well as provide them with someone more personable than a doctor to go to for advice.

I've finally found a hospital that thinks this is a good idea, so it may actually be happening soon :clap: and I'll be one of those mentors :D

I would never have had the idea or the opportunities to witness to kids that may develop throgh this program if I hadn't gotten diabetes. God puts Christians in many circumstances so that we can reach others... I believe my sickness is one way He's using me.

[Snowy]

I believe that he tests us when we are ill...like in the book of Job :)

[Shekinahs]

Is it God's will for everyone to be healed?
Blessings,

I think so. I do not think it is God's will that we are sick. It never was God's will for us to be sick. Illness is in the world but it is not what God will's for the world. Just because we can not find a cure or a cause does not make it the will of God.

~ShekinahMoon~

[Droobie]

Sorry to disagree with ya'll... but I don't think its God's will for everyone to be healed.

God puts Christians in many circumstances so that we can reach others... I believe my sickness is one way He's using me.Perhaps there is a difference between what God wills, and what He permits. Yes, from your testimony I can see how God is using you, but I do not think He 'wants' you to be sick. My view is that He has 'allowed' you to be sick. This may be splitting hairs to some, but I think it's an important distinction.

[loveHIM_liveHIM]

yeah, i guess i agree with this. maybe i ought to clarify: no, i don't think it's His will for me to have gotten (or anyone to get) sick, but He did allow it, and I don't think that right now its in His will for me to be healed, tho it may be in the future.

[geeserver]

Why worry about healing on earth. I can't wait till I get to heaven.

[loveHIM_liveHIM]

I went home for thanksgiving and this prophetess at my church told me that she felt God telling her that I will be healed!!! I do pray for this myself, but getting a word from her encouraged me not to give up, but to keep trusting God.

And yeah, I can't wait for heaven either. I know that I have it better than lots of people, but i still can't help but desire a chronic-illness-free life while I'm here. Diabetes has caused me such random problems, things people would never even think of... I wish for a "normal" life as I watch my friends live without my extra hassles.

[Eleana]

I dont think that God would want everyone to be healed. There are ppl who suffered in sickness or spiritual weakness and I believe those suffered are in God's will as well. God may be using their weaknesses (both physical and spiritual) to bring out His Grace and will.

[Waterhouse]

I dont think that God would want everyone to be healed. There are ppl who suffered in sickness or spiritual weakness and I believe those suffered are in God's will as well. God may be using their weaknesses (both physical and spiritual) to bring out His Grace and will.
That's what the devil would have you believe. As long as you're sick, in pain you can praise God as much as you want. What a callous and unmerciful God you believe in that He would WANT you to be sick! I think that a lot of people who are sick could get better much quicker but are stuck where they are because they think that God wants them to be sick to glorify Him. What rubbish!

[Eleana]

dear waterhouse, you believe in this ... I believe in that...that is wat faith after all rite? We believe in what we don't see, but we still believe, why? that is faith.

I've been sick physically and spiritually all my life, if I don't believe and hold on to the truth that God still make use of sick ppl like me to glorify His will, and eventually one day He will heal me, then I would be losing hope long time ago.

I think you had misunderstood my previous reply, or should I add on " God may be using their weaknesses (both physical and spiritual) to bring out His Grace and will...and when it is done, we are healed and live in His glory. There is a perfect purpose of whatever He do, that is what we cannot deny and we will not know until the times come and He will reveal.

[Waterhouse]

Aaah... you speak of faith. Faith in a merciful and kind God, or faith in a God that is happy to bring out His 'grace' through the sickness of those he loves? Or prehaps it is a lack of faith that one has in God to doubt that God can heal them, and justify their situation by saying "Oh, I'm sick to glorify God, because I can show what a powerful and merciful God He is by being sick"

Wait! Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that God does not use people through their strength and courage. What I'm saying is that God did not want them to be sick, would never want them sick at all in the first place.

I've sprained my ankle the week before I was suppose to act in my church drama. Praise God, by the time it came for me to step on the stage, I had made a complete recovery. But did God give me a sprained ankle in the first place? No, it was my own fault on the basketball court.

I think God would have been thinking at the time "Oh no... he's going to sprain his ankle" Not "Oooo... let's sprain his ankle, so I can heal it quickly so My name would be glorified"

I think the original question is important for us to realise that God WANTS us to be whole/healed and not make excuses for our sickness.

[loveHIM_liveHIM]

God has a purpose in everything, and He won't let something happen without having a reason behind it. He may not want/desire for us to be sick, but He may allow it to happen to accomplish something greater than ourselves. That is why we may not be healed in our time, but in His.

/me steps down from her soapbox sheepishly.

[Eleana]

God has a purpose in everything, and He won't let something happen without having a reason behind it. He may not want/desire for us to be sick, but He may allow it to happen to accomplish something greater than ourselves. That is why we may not be healed in our time, but in His.

* loveHIM_liveHIM steps down from her soapbox sheepishly.
Yes, I strongly agree with you. God bless ya. :wave:

[loveHIM_liveHIM]

Sômëtimês God whô knôws thë bêst,
Sênds us sôrrow ãs å tëst.
Sômëtimês He will wôund å heãrt,
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i think your sig says it all!

[JC_FREAK]

Yes, it isn't Gods will for us to suffer. but that doesn'ty mean that he will heal us while we are on this earth. We will be healed from all sin, all pain and all hurt when we get to heaven!! AMEN

[loveHIM_liveHIM]

yup earth isn't perfect thats why HEAVEN WILL BE AWESOME

[ecuadorian_capoeirista69]

read romans chapter 9
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 ｶ What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

see God condemned Esau and loved jacob ...before they were born! he also hardened the Pharohs heart (all that contradict free-will)
but I say we can't not acuss God of injustice because if he where just we would all go to hell because we are all sinners. Therefore that is why God picks and chooses who he will save and those who he will harden ther hearts.
thus The Lord does not want everyone to be saved!

[ecuadorian_capoeirista69]

That's what the devil would have you believe. As long as you're sick, in pain you can praise God as much as you want. What a callous and unmerciful God you believe in that He would WANT you to be sick! I think that a lot of people who are sick could get better much quicker but are stuck where they are because they think that God wants them to be sick to glorify Him. What rubbish!

hey even the bible says **** happens

[ecuadorian_capoeirista69]

so no one argees with me

[SpiritPsalmist]

hey even the bible says **** happens
REALLY! Where does the Bible say such a thing?

[Droobie]

see God condemned Esau and loved jacob ...before they were born! he also hardened the Pharohs heart (all that contradict free-will) but I say we can't not acuss God of injustice because if he where just we would all go to hell because we are all sinners. Therefore that is why God picks and chooses who he will save and those who he will harden ther hearts. thus The Lord does not want everyone to be saved!
You contradict yourself. If you do not accuse God of injustice, yet say He does not want "everyone" to be saved. God DOES want everyone saved, healed, whole, prosperous in body, mind and soul. It is our choices which lead us astray from these blessings.

Besides, free-will is not the subject of this topic, and please be careful with your words and respect to the Bible.

[daydreamergurl15]

God is all knowing and all powerful, he lets us have free will, many believe in pre-destination because God knows what's going to happen today, tomorrow, and so on. Just b/c he knows he waits for us to ask (through prayer and when we need it). He allows us to live the way we want but only tells us to follow in him if you want to go to Heaven. I have never seen the verse that you just said about Esau. I'm looking for that scripture but can't find it. But when you start talking about free will you also have to realize that people with handy-cap don't have the free will to do whatever they want so does ppl who are mentally challeneged. It doesn't mean that God is contridicting himself he just knows what we need or don't need. I think when they said that God hardened the hearts of the pharohs, those are the ones that didn't beileve in God, no matter what the prophet said and probably never will. But God bears all things for us, so they give him the credit of hardening the hearts of the pharohs. And remember if God left you without he's going to provide everything you need.

I also don't agree with you when you said God picks and chooses who goes to Heaven or hell He said that his chosen people are the one who chooses Him. And we do not know the heart of other men so you really do not know what they are going on inside that makes them not believe in God.

Sorry for this being so long but let me ask you something. Do you believe that you do not have free will? And do you think God hinders your free will?

[loveHIM_liveHIM]

free will is complicated, because we are really only reacting the circumstances God places us in, and God already knows how will we react. So yes, its up to us what we will do in situation X but God created situation X and knows what we will do...

[creeb]

I didnt vote coz the right answer aint there the answer Does God want everyone to be healed? the answer to this is simple yes but not always this side of eternity by that I mean the bible talks about heaven having no illness or suffering so yeah all who believe will one day be heeled but as for this life on earth some will be coz he will it other wont be coz that also is his will but remember this he sees the whole picture we dont so who r we to question his judgement.

[loveHIM_liveHIM]

Romans 9:14-18
What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

God's ways are his own and are WAY beyond anything we could comprehend. We must rest in the knowledge that He knows best and is working for our best.

[GraceReborn]

Does God want everone to be healed? Yes... either in this life or the next. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)
All the answers are the the Word... you just have to have "ears to hear, and eyes to see".

[Apologetic]

first! define healing. then i'll answer. i voted no because sometimes, God does let people get ill. and believe it or not, wofs, it's not about your faith being too small or about claiming your health.

it's about trusting God, because God is a teacher. and He can teach people to trust Him thru ill- and sickness and He can use people who are or have been ill to help others.

[kstam]

I voted no because God didn't heal Paul (2 Cor 12:7-9). But He gives us sufficient grace to deal with sickness.

Getting sick is a natural reaction of our bodies. If God wants to heal every one who gets sick, why wouldn't he give us a body that never sick?

Oh Yes, eventually we will have this glorious body (1 Cor 15:50-54) when Christ comes back. There will be no more sickness in the new earth (Rev 21:4; 22:2).

Amen. Come Lord Jesus.

[Kathryn]

I voted no because God didn't heal Paul (2 Cor 12:7-9). But He gives us sufficient grace to deal with sickness.



I was going to say 'Yes' until I read this part. I was always under the impression this wasn't necessarily a physical sickness, but I can't find anything to back that up. Does anyone know what the 'thorn' was?

[Kathryn]

I did find that "flesh" is translated from the word sarx that means the physical flesh. Interesting point.

I think that God wants us all to be healed but His priorities are with our spiritual healing. In Pauls case above, the physical "thorn" kept Paul's humility in check. And humility, being absolutely essential to salvation, was more important than his physical health at the time.

[Blessed75]

I voted yes, but too tired and lazy to go into details as to why I believe that, maybe another time when I'm more awake perhaps?

[Ghost23]

I was going to say 'Yes' until I read this part. I was always under the impression this wasn't necessarily a physical sickness, but I can't find anything to back that up. Does anyone know what the 'thorn' was?

i voted yes because its not necessarily no either. as far as Paul's affliction, it never says in the word what that affliction is. there is much speculation as to whether it was in his physical body or not but to automatically assume that it is is taking it out of context or adding a personal viewpoint.

now i believe that God does desire that all would be healed. does everybody get healed? well of course not! and healing really, ultimately relies on whether you know Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior or not. I believe it is the deciding factor that determines whether or not you are healed after you expire.

but thats a different sort of healing altogether. as far as healing while you are alive, I say yes to that too. again i believe it is God's desire that all become healed, both physically and spiritually. if it were not true we would be a bunch of physically and spiritually afflicted and tormented people. someone healing does depend on their faith. it has been shown time and time again in the New Testament how their faith had made them whole or allowed the healing power of Jesus to work. for example the woman with the issue of blood. most of us here know the story, she had been internal bleeding for years upon years and received no healing from the medicine and doctors just failed treatments. but when Jesus came to town she believed if she could just touch the hem of his garments she would be healed. and was she not healed? yes, she was. in fact we already know that Jesus told her that her faith made her whole.

so i believe that faith does have to do with healing. when i was younger in the Lord i used to get sick plenty of times, and i got rather "sick" of feeling like this all the time. one sickness that i used to have quite frequently was painful headaches everyday. as an experiment i began quoting scriptures like "by his stripes we are healed...", or "Jesus bore all my sicknesses and my diseases..." on the cross for me so in the name of Jesus etc etc etc. now i dont know how many of you believe in speaking in tongues but i also began speaking in tongues when i prayed and i noticed there was a change. my headaches would disappear in a matter of minutes, now this wasnt instantaneous on the first try but gradually as my faith was built up it happened.
and it seems as a result of my praying the word over myself and praying in tongues, and believing in complete, and total faith, that according to what the Word of God says I am healed no matter what anybody else says, my immune system became stronger. you want proof? how is this for proof? i havent been sick in over 7years. this is not to say that sickness doesnt try to attack me, because it does try to afflict me but my faith is built up in this area such that i dont have to struggle with it like i used to.

so again, for the 3rd time lol, i believe God does desire that we all are healed. however, it doesnt happen that way all the time. if its not because its just time to go see Jesus, well then, as far as christians are concerned, its probably because of a lack of faith. maybe doubt got in there somehow or there just believing a lie.

[MYMOM]

nope

[Glorianna]

I don't think so because greater things can come out of a sickness or disability.

[jeffs_girl_2004]

I think that God does not heal everyone because it is for people to learn or grow in their strength.

[rubberduckie]

yes, good response, jeffs_girl :) I was going to say, spiritually healed, yes, and while he walked this earth, Christ healed many people, but his first concern was for thei spiritual needs. (Like the lame man carried through the roof, he forgave all his sins, and then he healed him.) BUt also Paul, he would not heal Paul's physical weakness, although Paul prayed, It was not God's will to heal him.

[TheMainException]

I think that God does want everyone to be healed, but sometimes he needs someone to die to save another.

[sweetlambofgod]

why would he want bad for someone?

[openup4christ]

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[PaladinGirl]

I answered yes but I am really not quite sure. What about Paul's "thorn in the flesh"? Was that a disease or illness that maybe God did not want to heal because it served some purpose?

[signwonder]

Jesus was beaten so that by His stripes we could be healed. For those that do not believe this and partake of this is to forsake this pain Jesus agonized and took for us in vain. We may all die but death can come whether or not we are sick. Death is swallowed in victory and one day even it will no longer hold us. We perish for lack of knowledge. I guess this would mean that we can stay sick because we are ignorant to the truth about healing. Personally, I have been healed and remain accepting of those healing stripes each and every time any sickness tries to come my way. Many are the afflictions of the righteous but the Lord delivers them out of them ALL. Out of how many afflictions can the righteous be delivered from? Oh yes, it says ALL! Healing is for those that want to be delivered. I've been sick and I have been healed. Healed is better! You have to get out of the boat where men cling in fear sometimes to show you really do trust Jesus!

[SUNSTONE]

James 5

[lilchristiangurl]

i think if someone gets sick God is just trying to get their attention for any reason and he will heal them if they pray about it

[Ainesis]

Is it God's will for everyone to be healed?Yes. And everyone who believes in Him will be, although maybe not in this present physical body! ;)
There are evidences in Scripture where it does not seem as if God healed the people. We have to keep in mind that everything God does is in order to bring us closer to Him and the goal is not a perfect life in the present (as in free from sickness) but eternal life with Him in the hereafter.

[stillblessed]

yes, but we must have the faith,without it,you can not receive the healing. God heals you when you ask,being his child,but you have to really receive it,through faith. isn't that what the ones who received it from Jesus did,and Jesus would say,your faith has made you whole,go and sin no more.

[Moros]

A prayer of a sick person
O Lord Jesus Christ, our Saviour, Physician of souls and bodies, who didst become man and suffer death on the Cross for our salvation, and through thy tender love and compassion didst heal all manner of sickness and affliction; do thou O Lord, visit me in my suffering, and grant me grace and strength to bear this sickness with which I am afflicted, with Christian patience and submission to thy will, trusting in thy loving kindness and tender mercy. Bless, I pray thee, the means used for my recovery, and those who administer them. I know O Lord, that I justly deserve any punishment thou mayest inflict upon me for. I have so often offended thee and sinned against thee, in thought, word and deed. Therefore, I humbly pray thee, look upon my weakness, and deal not with me after my sins, but according to the multitude of thy mercies. Have com- passion on me, and let mercy and justice meet; and deliver me from this sickness and suffer- ing I am undergoing. Grant that my sickness may be the means of my true repentance and amendment of my life according to thy will, that I may spend the rest of my days in thy love and fear: that my soul, being helped by thy grace and sanctified by thy Holy Mysteries, may be prepared for its passage to the Eter- nal Life, and there, in the company of thy blessed Saints, may praise and glorify thee with thy Eternal Father and Life-giving Spirit. Amen.

Thanksgiving after recovery from sickness
Almighty God, our heavenly Father, Source of life and Fountain of all good things, I bless thy Holy Name, and offer to thee most hearty thanks for having delivered me from my sickness and restored me to health. Grant me thy continuing grace, I pray thee, that I may keep my good resolutions and correct the errors of my past life, and improve in virtue, and live a new life in dutiful fear of thee, doing thy will in all things, and devoting this new life which thou hast given me to thy service: that thus living for thee, I may be found ready when it pleaseth thee to call me to thee, 0 heavenly Father, to whom with thine Only-begotten Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, and thine all-holy and Life-giving Spirit, is due all honor, praise, glory, and thanksgiving: now and ever, and unto ages of ages. Amen.

[DanielJamesSimon]

Obviously it is not, or we would never have anyone die from sickness.

How many Christians die from sickness/disease? Is that through lack of faith? Where in the Bible does it say "have faith, and God will heal your disease"? It does not, as far as I know. Sometimes, for whatever reason, it is God's will that a Christian be sick, and even die from that sickness.

If it were God's will for everyone to be healed, everyone would be healed.

[Dr Majestic]

Yes no buts and no ifs.

[tyberium]

Only reason I voted not sure it that eventually I believe that God will give every person a glorified body, saved or unsaved. Of course the saved go to heaven and the unsaved go to hell. I think the glorified bodies cannot be distroyed. So in that way he does want everyone to be healed. Now physically on earth I do not know God's will, but if he needs to not heal me inorder for me to see what he wants me to see, then so be it. I know what happens in the end.

[rhemarob]

Absolutely, no question about it, how anyone can study the Bible and miss that fact is beyond my understanding.
Jesus took literal stripes to pay for our literal healing, some on this thread say that sort of theology damages people but how can you tell someone that they have a loving Father that has the power to heal but He might not heal them?
That is not love and doesn't even make sense.

[Neal]

Well, has everyone been healed? No? Well, then, no, I think it's not God's will that everyone be healed.

[FreeGrace]

The sad fact that this question is asked is disturbing in itself.No way is it Gods will for everybody to be healed if anyone thinks otherwise please supply scriptural support.

[k]

Of course God wants everone to be healed! Anyone ever hear of Jesus, Buddha or Mohammed? I read the question not necessarily in a physical sense, but more in the spiritual aspect. To be "healed" means to be in heaven, and this means to be at one with God, which requires the complete absence of evil, or ego within ourselves.

Peace

[~*Hope*~]

In my opinion, I think he wants everyone to be healed. He doesnt want us to suffer. He wants us all to be healed, happy and get to heaven. Its our choice to except him and let him heal us.

[Knightmare†]

God doesn't care for materialistic things..he was there to heal souls not bodies...
plus he doesn't heal everyone to test their faith..so the ones who believe at him till the end ,those will be saved only...:)

[Mimi]

Yes, I would not know why not....

[Archangel590]

I think that God does not want everyone to be healed because he might use that one person to save 1,000's or 1,000,000's

[night2day]

Define "healed".

God never promised to heal all our physical infirmities. Physical health is usually the first thing a person thinks of when thinking of "healing". God doesn't think that way and shows as much within His word. Sometimes He doesn't to bring about a purpose for good we may never see.

Broken lives due to sin is what He has promised to heal by grace, through faith in Him.

[Palatka44]

All healings are of God's doing. Be it by spontanious response to prayer or faith or the result of a Doctor's care and theropy. With out God there would no healing at all.

[Les Grands Pieds]

I have ADD and I've had lots of people pray for me, but there hasn't been a miracle (at least from what I can see) to indicate that I don't have it anymore. I think healing might be an alternative to taking medicine. Maybe I'm just not ready to be healed yet. I'm not sure, but one thing I know for certain is that I'm okay. I've learned to accept the way God has constructed my mind (even if it is a little different than most). I've been thinking that maybe having an ADD brain might be part of God's awesome plan for my life. I think it could be something that could really help me with whatever God wants me to do with my life.

[Hisbygrace]

Yes. I believe that it is God's desire that everyone should be healed. But, healing comes in many ways. When we ask for healing for ourselves or another in our minds and hearts is the desire for a miracle healing. Sometimes, God does do just that, but there are also times when the person doesn't get well and we wonder why God didn't listen to us then. I believe our God always listens and He always heals. When someone doesn't recieve a miracle healing here on earth I believe it is because God has a better healing planned for them and that is a complete healing with a brand new body in heaven.

[k]

I have ADD and I've had lots of people pray for me, but there hasn't been a miracle (at least from what I can see) to indicate that I don't have it anymore. I think healing might be an alternative to taking medicine. Maybe I'm just not ready to be healed yet. I'm not sure, but one thing I know for certain is that I'm okay. I've learned to accept the way God has constructed my mind (even if it is a little different than most). I've been thinking that maybe having an ADD brain might be part of God's awesome plan for my life. I think it could be something that could really help me with whatever God wants me to do with my life.
Your honesty and maturity is refreshing and encouraging.:thumbsup: I have more issues than TV Guide, but God has taught me none of those could ever get in the way of God's Will for my life, so long as I am truly seeking Christ.

Peace

[night2day]

Methinks the issue moreso is how do we define "healed". When most consider the term they think of a physical healing from a illnesses, or disease, or deformity. However, all these three are manifestations on the result of sin within a corrupted world. And the end result of sin is death. Before the Fall into Sin in Genesis illness and death were unheard of. Sin's curse spoiled what God had made good.

What God considers healing I draw from Matthew 9:

2 And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
3 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.
4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?
5 For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?
6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.

Also, there's the example of the Apostle Paul:

2 Corinthians 12:
7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

God can and certainly has used people who are ill. So, if physically healing is being the one item referred to, I have grate concerns. Especially since many may have the misguided notion when they are not healed it must be because they may not have enough faith or because something else with them is wrong. Nothing can be further from the truth.

God answers prayers. He doesn't always answer them in the way we want him too. He can certainly physically heal, yes. Does he always choose too? No? Why? "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." (Romans 8:28)

Alot of times I think society places too much on the quality of health and life and if someone's life and health aren't held up to a certain standard something must be wrong with the person's walk with Christ. The Bible states differntly.

[Kristi1]

Is it God's will for everyone to be healed?


I voted ~> Yes!!

*Take it from me a severely disabled female who has been through a lot of surgeries and am still alive!!!!!!! :D


Blessings, \o/ :clap:

KristiAnn
MsGuidedAngel

[Palatka44]

With out God there would be no healing period. No God, no miracles. No God, no plants that produce ointments or medications for illness. No God, no auto immune system for self health.
Face up to it people, God gets the glory for it all.:thumbsup:

[Kristi1]

With out God there would be no healing period. No God, no miracles. No God, no plants that produce ointments or medications for illness. No God, no auto immune system for self health.
Face up to it people, God gets the glory for it all.:thumbsup:


True!!! But, God gave Doctors Skill to perform mircacles on people like me!! And Jesus gets the Credit for helping them when I died on the operating table!!!

:clap:"Praise Jesus for Today and Everyday!!":clap:


Love Always, \o/ :clap:

KristiAnn
MsGuidedAngel

[SilverHand]

One of the things ive noticed is that the word of God tells us that he doesent want anybody to perish into hell.( anybody ) So im sure He would love to see us all healed of all our infirmitys. From aids to ADD. But because of mans own sin, ever since the begining. We have been plegued with all sorts of sickness and desease, because of our continued sin and unfaithfulness to Him. Im not trying to depress anyone, because there is hope. Gods will is his own. we cant fathom it or defeat it, but we can be in it.God kept the thorn in Pauls side, and Paul continued to serve God. ( WITH A WHOLE HEART ! ) Im not saying give up on trying to get a healing touch from God, but continue to serve God regardless ! Exorsize the faith God has givin you ! ( remember the grain of mustard seed ? ) Exorsize your faith like you would your body and your mind. Amazing things may happen. And most importantly, our bodys will be transformed whene we get to Heaven ! ( you dont think he would want to keep us like this forever do you ?) Faith, Hope, and Love, keep it alive !:amen:

[kwimmer]

Ultimately, yes, even though that healing my only come after our death at our resurection.

[night2day]

...But because of mans own sin, ever since the begining. We have been plegued with all sorts of sickness and desease, because of our continued sin and unfaithfulness to Him...

I consider sin something like a "Cascade Effect". When Adam and Eve sinned they infected all of creation with the curse of sin. They no longer bore God's image of holiness since it was lost. Thus, when they had children they bore the sinful image of Adam...not God. The same with their descendants.

Stating it's a cancer would not be far from the truth either.

I remember the the disciples had asked Jesus regarding a blind man in John 9. "Did he sin or did his parents sin and that's the reason he was born blind?" Jesus' answer was basically: "Neither. It is so that God's glory can manifest in him."

One modern day author made a good point regarding the chapter of the healing of a man born blind. Certainly he was healed. However look at how many years the man had been blind before Jesus gave him sight?

Also note the disciples had asked: "Who sinned....him or his parents that he was born blind?" (IE: Inferring the man had sinned when he was within the womb. Which, incidentally was a misnomer held by many of the cultures held sway by the Roman empire of the time.)

Illness and disease can certainly be direct consequences of actions at times. Mostly, they are a result of the overall sin-state this world is within. It is a state we are all within ever since we were conceived. Sin isn't only what we do...it's the state of corruption creation is in since the Fall. Thus, one person coming down with a cold or another being diagnosed with epilepsy doesn't mean they did anything to bring it on themselves or that somehow they became ill because their lack of faithfulness.

Now, God can use the illness for his purposes.

However to infer, if this was what it was, a Christian becomes ill due to continued sin or a lack of faithfulness both places the burden of wellness on what we do or do not do takes away living under faith and repentance by God's gift of grace.

Christians sin and as long as we remain on this earth that won't change. Our New Life in Christ will continually battle the Old Adam. The change lies within whether or not there is repentance and faith that a person is forgiven by Christ's shed blood.

[ps139]

1 Timothy 2:4

[hexa2002]

First of all from my own personal feelings there is simply and only the answer "yes".



Luke 9:11 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=LUKE+9:11&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on)
but the crowds learned about it and followed him. He welcomed them and spoke to them about the kingdom of God, and healed those who needed healing.
(Whole Chapter: Luke 9 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=LUKE+9&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on) In context: Luke 9:10-12 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=LUKE+9:10-12&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on))

Acts 10:38 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=ACTS+10:38&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on)
how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.
(Whole Chapter: Acts 10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=ACTS+10&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on) In context: Acts 10:37-39 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=ACTS+10:37-39&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on))

[SilverHand]

I consider sin something like a "Cascade Effect". When Adam and Eve sinned they infected all of creation with the curse of sin. They no longer bore God's image of holiness since it was lost. Thus, when they had children they bore the sinful image of Adam...not God. The same with their descendants.

Stating it's a cancer would not be far from the truth either.

I remember the the disciples had asked Jesus regarding a blind man in John 9. "Did he sin or did his parents sin and that's the reason he was born blind?" Jesus' answer was basically: "Neither. It is so that God's glory can manifest in him."

One modern day author made a good point regarding the chapter of the healing of a man born blind. Certainly he was healed. However look at how many years the man had been blind before Jesus gave him sight?

Also note the disciples had asked: "Who sinned....him or his parents that he was born blind?" (IE: Inferring the man had sinned when he was within the womb. Which, incidentally was a misnomer held by many of the cultures held sway by the Roman empire of the time.)

Illness and disease can certainly be direct consequences of actions at times. Mostly, they are a result of the overall sin-state this world is within. It is a state we are all within ever since we were conceived. Sin isn't only what we do...it's the state of corruption creation is in since the Fall. Thus, one person coming down with a cold or another being diagnosed with epilepsy doesn't mean they did anything to bring it on themselves or that somehow they became ill because their lack of faithfulness.

Now, God can use the illness for his purposes.

However to infer, if this was what it was, a Christian becomes ill due to continued sin or a lack of faithfulness both places the burden of wellness on what we do or do not do takes away living under faith and repentance by God's gift of grace.

Christians sin and as long as we remain on this earth that won't change. Our New Life in Christ will continually battle the Old Adam. The change lies within whether or not there is repentance and faith that a person is forgiven by Christ's shed blood.Well, perhaps i keep things too simple. But thats how i am. Sorry. But the fact is, in Gods perfect world, there will be no sickness or desease or infirmates. We brought it on ourselfs. and continue to do so in our own sin. The inosents pay for our sins. IE abortions, deformatys due to drugs and other hard living. We pass it on from one generation to the next. (and im talking about people as a whole here.) Perhaps im not coming across as i want to ,but i hope you get my intended point. It rains on the just and the unjust. Only repentence will bring about the perfect will of God he has intended for us. There has to be repentance to bring about the only change that is worthwhile here on this earth. Repentance of our sins, and acceptance of Christ as our Lord and Savior. Now this may be a hard line view to some of you, but without Christ, it doesent matter how good a person you are, You will still die in your sins and end up in hell. But let God be the Judge of that, not us.

[jessicaa]

If He did there would be no one who is sick.
On the other hand I am sure He doesn't like to see His own being ill.
But sometimes illness is brought on b the individual themselves.
Sometimes the individual did nothing wrong but that the glory of God might be made manifest.
John Chapter 9 is an example of this.
Yes that man was healed. But it says. He wasn't born blind because he or his parents sinned. But that the glory of God might be made manifest I believe is what it says.
So there are times that people are ill by apparently the very will of God.
This is hard to understand. But as His thoughts and ways are higher than ours why do we try to understand it?
I suppose we just want to understand because it to us will make us feel better.
Right now I am struggling with a health problem. And I hurt and the doctors cannot find the problem.
I am not upset at the Lord ofr any of this. I don't know why this is occurring right now.
Probably my own fault most likely. But I am still trusting in the Lord for Him to work everything out.
But even if it was His will for me to be in the pain I am in I still accept it. And am not angry at Him for it. He has His reasons.
And now we see through a glass darkly. But then we shall see face to face. Then we will understand all things we need to understand.

[Kristi1]

I don't think so.
If He did there would be no one who is sick.
On the other hand I am sure He doesn't like to see His own being ill.
But sometimes illness is brought on b the individual themselves.
Sometimes the individual did nothing wrong but that the glory of God might be made manifest.
John Chapter 9 is an example of this.
Yes that man was healed. But it says. He wasn't born blind because he or his parents sinned. But that the glory of God might be made manifest I believe is what it says.
So there are times that people are ill by apparently the very will of God.
This is hard to understand. But as His thoughts and ways are higher than ours why do we try to understand it?
I suppose we just want to understand because it to us will make us feel better.
Right now I am struggling with a health problem. And I hurt and the doctors cannot find the problem.
I am not upset at the Lord ofr any of this. I don't know why this is occurring right now.
Probably my own fault most likely. But I am still trusting in the Lord for Him to work everything out.
But even if it was His will for me to be in the pain I am in I still accept it. And am not angry at Him for it. He has His reasons.
And now we see through a glass darkly. But then we shall see face to face. Then we will understand all things we need to understand.


Hiya Jessica, :wave:

I understand frustrations Sis! Not all sicknesses are because of someone's faults at all! Everyone is different, thank God for that, because if we were all the same it would be a Very boring World! Some people are born with birth defects, some get sick early or later in life, it's not their fauly usually. I am so sorry that doctors haven't found whats wrong yet Sis, I will Pray :prayer: for you!! I use John 9:1-5 for my severe birth defect I was born with. In fact here it is below;

John 9:1-5


Love Always Sis, \o/ :clap:

KristiAnn
MsGuidedAngel

[tubaboy963]

I hope not. I've been to churches that have told me that I'm a sinner because I have asthma. Job had problems and it was a temptation. I don't think it was because he had major sin in his life. Of course, there are diseases that you can get if you sin, like STDs. But now I'm going on a tangent.

[no_worries]

in our weekness is when we most see God's strength.. God has a reason for what he does.. that's my cent and a half on the matter (I didn't think it was quite a large enought post to warrant being my two cents - besides I might need that half cent for later :thumbsup:)

[Ashley_81586]

I think that God wants people to be healed, when you think about it, why would God want His people to be ill? thats just what i think though.

[sictransitgloriamundi]

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.


Peace to all who seek it.
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ditto.

[d-11even]

I say yes because he created us, we're his children... As a father, you would always want the best for your children.

[brinny]

I don't believe it's God's will that everyone be healed, as evidenced by the apostle Paul who asked God to heal him from a thorn in the flesh, but God chose not to. I do, however believe that God's grace is sufficient for any of our circumstances and His tender mercies and loving kindness will strengthen and sustain us.

:angel:

[Dee235]

Yes. we have recently learnt in our Bible study classes that God does not want any of us to be sick. He didn't create us that way, it is because sin came into the world that we have illnesses.

[ALASKACHICK10]

yes, God wants everyone to be healed. He might not heal them right when they ask Him to but then He might have a plan for the person being sick..

[Soulikz]

it is his will

[SmEaGoL!]

I believe so yes. :)

[AdJesumPerMariam]

Yes!

[kissybug27]

I believe that God loves every single person on earth. I believe that yes He wants everyone to be healthy and wants every one to make it to heaven. But it is our faith to Him that our healing comes from. This is not to say that He wouldn't heal someone who is not a Christian, but because of another's faith they may be healed. Isn't God wonderful.

[rahul_sharma]

yes , definately

[livechange]

What? Spiritually yes...I guess.:scratch: If it was his will, he would do it...yes?

[LedByTheLamb]

I believe God wants everyone to be healed. I dont think He wants anyone to be in pain or not sound in body or mind. Its not the same as living forever...I think God would want us all to die of old age.

Dawn

[draconus71]

I believe that God wants everyone to be hilled from evil and be one with God and all

[Centrifuge04]

I think so, but not totally sure.

[pro_odeh]

God can make us weak in the flesh, to strenthen our faith!

[Mashley]

My mom feels like God has told her that she will have her disease for the rest of her life. He has also given her the strength to deal with that.

I think sometimes God lets you have a disease in order to help others who deal with the same issues. I think He will give you the strength to deal with that disease though. The ultimate healing happens when you die and go to heaven.

My Grandpa was healed of cancer, by dying.

[jcright]

Not sure on this one. I don't recall a passage saying that God wants everyone healed. I think, however, that he would grieve for our pain.

[okiemommy26]

not sure yet

[GodFlute2]

If everyone was healed, we'd live forever. There'd be no reason to look forword to heaven.

[Dmckay]

If it was God's will for everyone to be healed, how would you explain anyone needing healing in the first place. The Spiritual gift of healing is literally, "gifts of healings" not everyone is healed. Paul wrote to Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach problem. Since Paul is recorded as healing others, and even restoring life to some, why didn't he just heal Timothy if God wants eveyone healed?

[die2live]

THere is a verse in the Bible that says it is not God's will that any would perish. It's in either 1 Peter or 2 peter. I don't have time to look up the exact reference, but will get back to ya shortly.

[mythrainbow]

what about the story of jacob, when he recieves the name of Israel. Its Gen 32:24-32. his hip was put out of socket purposefully and it does not seem he was healed.

I do believe that God heals those with enough faith that are meant to be healed, but also He knows better than us whether we should be afflicted or not and it is His will that is done not ours. Preserverence through an illness is sometimes a stronger witness than healing. Any one can be happy and joyous when healed, but to have happiness and joy from the Lord when afflicted.... need I say more.

Anyway I did vote yes, but because I was thinking of spiritual healing at the time, I have a habit of clicking before thinking or sometimes even before reading.

May the Lord increase your faith and Reveal His will.

[bill16652]

where does sickness and disease come from? doesnt it say that by his stripes we were healed? as with other promises in the bible there are conditions for appropriating healing, not wavering is a big one when you still might feel the aches and satan is telling you your not healed and other things as well

[armyman_83]

Is it God's will for everyone to be healed?

Is that even a real question? Sure God wants us all to be well but he also wants us to all love him and worship him too, but there are a whole bunch that don't and there will always be illnesses untill Christ comes back.

[woman.at.the.well]

Of course He wants us all to be healed! It's His perfect will that we all be healed spiritually, emotionally, and physically because He is just that awesome.:amen:

[squeak]

Of course! Why else would he give his sone to die for us?

[pro_odeh]

To save us..

[rachewil15]

Yes, but it's on His time and according to His way of being "healed".

[Raheelah]

i went for no because God does everything for a purpose and not everyone gets healed however strong their Faith and however hard they pray and however many healing meetings they attend and go foreward expecting a miracle :) ;) :D :cool: :P :wave: :thumbsup: :amen: :clap: :hug: :preach: :prayer: :groupray: :bow: :angel:

[ysl_75]

If really God's will, I believed that He want to healed everyone but provided everyone really believed in Him and have more faith in Him.

[L.A.W.]

What God very much wants is for everyone to be healed. Why then did he send His only begotten Son to die for us?

[Saruman]

Sickness/disability could play a role in someone's life. Yes, God most likely wants for people to be happy, but their illness could be a challenge for their life, i.e.: Helen Keller, etc.

[jesusfreak22]

guess so

[food4thought]

If God wanted every one to be healed, Paul is a liar.



2Co 12:7-10 And by reason of the exceeding greatness of the revelations, that I should not be exalted overmuch, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, that I should not be exalted overmuch. (8) Concerning this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. (9) And he hath said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my power is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. (10) Wherefore I take pleasure in weaknesses, in injuries, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

[ConstanceB]

Have you read the Book of Job? It is considered the penultimate story of God's response to man's suffering, but in it we learn only that the LORD's ways are unknowable (and that with friends like Job's, who needs enemies). God allowed Satan to heap staggering burdens upon this righteous man, only appearing -- to reprimand him! -- when Job demanded a hearing with the Almighty.

Scholars tell us that this book of the Bible probably pre-dates all remaining Scripture. The OT historical books that follow reveal a tragic cycle: man's need, God's loving response, man's rebellion and subsequent suffering, man's repentance, and God's forgiveness and delivery. Psalm 107 chronicles this cycle and God's faithfulness beautifully, but it is a never-ending theme throughout Scripture.

Now see Malachi 4:2 -- "But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. And you will go out and leap like calves released from the stall!"

So why, if God wills it so, are we not well and whole? Why is a baby stillborn, or a young mother terminally ill, or thousands of souls lost to sudden illness? I believe it is because we truly do not understand the nature of our call to holiness. Being "Christian" -- to be redeemed, justified, covered by Jesus' blood -- by definition is also to be anointed, consecrated, and set aside for a holy purpose.

So we are saved. Christians, that's us, but we leave God just rolling his eyes. See Malachi 2:17 -- "You have wearied the LORD with your words. 'How have we wearied him?' you ask. By saying, 'All who do evil are good in the eyes of the LORD, and he is pleased with them' (not only do we not punish the guilty in our courts, but we excuse our own unholy lives by playing the "grace" card) or 'Where is the God of justice?'" (That would be Job, and me.)

Read James 1:22 -- Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.

In other verses in James, we find words like humility, purity, peace-loving, considerate, submissive, merciful, peacemaker. Or in Ch. 4, this indictment -- You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God. When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.

James 4:7 & 8 -- Submit yourselves then to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Sounds a little like that OT cycle, doesn't it?

Here's another part of the cycle for us who are Christians: James 5:13-16 -- Is any one of you in trouble? He should pray. Is anyone happy? Let him sing songs of praise. Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.

Read I Peter. It's only five chapters, and deals explicitly with the issue of Christian suffering and how our lives should be lived in a godly way. We are so far from how God would have us live! I speak primarily of my own soul when I say, No wonder I am not healed.

[Blessedknowledge3]

Have you read the Book of Job? It is considered the penultimate story of God's response to man's suffering, but in it we learn only that the LORD's ways are unknowable (and that with friends like Job's, who needs enemies). God allowed Satan to heap staggering burdens upon this righteous man, only appearing -- to reprimand him! -- when Job demanded a hearing with the Almighty.

But look what God did at the end the book.

I know that my Reedemer lives, and the end he will stand upon the earth.


Scholars tell us that this book of the Bible probably pre-dates all remaining Scripture. The OT historical books that follow reveal a tragic cycle: man's need, God's loving response, man's rebellion and subsequent suffering, man's repentance, and God's forgiveness and delivery. Psalm 107 chronicles this cycle and God's faithfulness beautifully, but it is a never-ending theme throughout Scripture.[/color]

I understand,trust me. ^

Now see Malachi 4:2 -- "But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. And you will go out and leap like calves released from the stall!"

[quote]So why, if God wills it so, are we not well and whole? Why is a baby stillborn, or a young mother terminally ill, or thousands of souls lost to sudden illness? I believe it is because we truly do not understand the nature of our call to holiness. Being "Christian" -- to be redeemed, justified, covered by Jesus' blood -- by definition is also to be anointed, consecrated, and set aside for a holy purpose.

So we are saved. Christians, that's us, but we leave God just rolling his eyes. See Malachi 2:17 -- "You have wearied the LORD with your words. 'How have we wearied him?' you ask. By saying, 'All who do evil are good in the eyes of the LORD, and he is pleased with them' (not only do we not punish the guilty in our courts, but we excuse our own unholy lives by playing the "grace" card) or 'Where is the God of justice?'" (That would be Job, and me.)

Read James 1:22 -- Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.

In other verses in James, we find words like humility, purity, peace-loving, considerate, submissive, merciful, peacemaker. Or in Ch. 4, this indictment -- You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God. When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.

James 4:7 & 8 -- Submit yourselves then to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Sounds a little like that OT cycle, doesn't it?

Here's another part of the cycle for us who are Christians: James 5:13-16 -- Is any one of you in trouble? He should pray. Is anyone happy? Let him sing songs of praise. Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.

Read I Peter. It's only five chapters, and deals explicitly with the issue of Christian suffering and how our lives should be lived in a godly way. We are so far from how God would have us live! I speak primarily of my own soul when I say, No wonder I am not healed.


Wow..I can't I waited so long to register here..I've read the NIV back almost front to back 3 times. :cool:

I am Christ's disciple. Spiritual warrior and defender of Christians who are being opposed by the Atheists,serious agnostics,and satanists.

Now where's that big NIV at? brb.

Malachi 3.17
They will be mine, says the Lord almighty, "In that day, I will make up my treasured possession. I will spare,just as in compassion a man spares his son who serves him.And you will see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who not.

[diamond717]

I voted no, because God didn't heal Paul when he asked for it. Paul accepted that God didn't want him healed, and that God worked through his weakness. Eventually, yes, all of us will be healed in the age to come. In this age, no, we will not be healed unless there is a specific purpose for it.

[akasmom]

I'm sorry but I could not believe this statement when I first read it. Are you for real? I find the notion that people could receive extra immunity from illness and sickness simply because of their acceptance of God to be, quite frankly, preposterous nonsense. Following God as a Christian is not an immunity against disease, it is a spiritual decision that an individual makes to follow the Lord and try to live their life to serve him. Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I can recall, nowhere in the bible does it say that those who choose Christianity will receive a "covering over their lives" to protct from disease superior to those who do not believe in, or choose not to follow God. Christians are not exempt from, or even less susceptible to illness just because of their faith.
read Psalm 91
read what the curse consisted of in Deut 28, and how to be free from it (now that the work of the cross is done, following Him means through Jesus).
re:pauls 'thorn' (2 Cor 12):read verse 10 (those things were the thorn, not sickness).
read 3 John:2, James 5:14, Acts 5:15, 9:33
Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever, and He never did turn down someone who asked for healing that believed He would and could do it. This same Jesus ever lives to make intercession for us, and He is not a respecter of persons. Certainly there are people who will not be healed becasue of choices they made, whether spiritual or lifestyle or because of unbelief, but God wants to heal those that ask.

[anna9559]

i believe He does want us to be healed, since i bet it's kinda hard for Him to watch people suffer, but with pain that we go through, we start praying more, and getting closer to Him.

[BillR]

If its his will that you will be healed you will, God wants what is best for us. :amen:

[Underoath]

I chose No at first, but now I'm thinking maybe Yes. I'm sure the Lord doesn't want people to suffer, but suffering is part of the world. This reminds me somewhat of Job. :)

[RadicallyTransformedMom]

NO..or they would be!! and as we can see from looking around..there are plenty of people with mental and physical afflictions! so NO!

[Bemiah_Angel]

I think it is God's will 4 every1 2 b healed bcuz he wants to make his children and does'nt want us to suffer. But... it does take a matter of faith, u have 2 believe he can heal i think in order 2 b healed. I'm not saying if ur not a christian u won't b healed but...in lot's of cases u have to believe to b healed. Sumtyms peple have faith and are'nt healed, but there r other sumhow I believee satan got i there but anyway, b4 I go any further yes I do believe that God wants us all to b healed :)

[FreestyleFred]

I think it is God's will for everyone to be healed because the Lord would not want people to suffer, but He allows it to happen. He loves us all, and He does not take pleasure out of our pains, but He still allows sin, pains, and suffering to run rampant. God's will isn't always done because He loves us so much that he gives us the choice. It is God's will that everyone be saved, but He gives us the choice because He loves us.
-Someone correct me if I am wrong on any points, please.

[RedneckAnglican]

yes...it was and is...until we messed up with that nasty "apple and snake" incident...

[runner_for_jc]

You WILL BE HEALED IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN WEATHER IN HEAVEN OR ON EARTH...
Jordan Gibson*24

[SarahBeara]

Spiritually, yes. physically, I don't think so, but don't know.

[MaddiesDad]

NO..or they would be!! and as we can see from looking around..there are plenty of people with mental and physical afflictions! so NO! Yes,and there are graces through suffering.Plus,wow get this..the disabled and mentally ill are here for a REASON. what is it? so that we humble ourselves and care for those as God cares for us.We can ask and pray for healing but its a grace to accept it and carry it like a cross.:pray:

[Mal2]

no, the handicapped and crippled are gods cosmic joke. he laughs at them you know

[lin1235]

I say no. God sometimes chooses not to heal somebody - otherwise all Christians would die from accidents or from old age! I do believe it is His will that everyone be healed spiritually.

[Utah Knight]

yes and no it is not gods will that any should parish but gain everlasting life

so in other words if it was not gods will why would he create a new heavens and a new earth after he locks away the antichrist and why in jesus' kingdom he will wipe every tear from our eyes but he is just and true

[reformedfan]

no, there were plenty of sick people Christ didn't heal while He was here. God's chief concern isn't our physical well being but Spiritual. Better to go through life maimed than have two perfectly goo eyes, hands, feet & go to hell.

[Francis Dan Sewell]

I just take God at his word, in Ps 103:3 He says He pardons all our iniquities, and He heals all our diseases. How plain can He be?
And when John the Baptist began to doubt, he sent a messenger to Jesus at the very time Jesus was healing someone, and ask if He was the one they were expecting, or should they look for someone else.
Jesus said for him to go back and tell John what he had just seen and heard, the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are clensed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the poor have the Gospel preached to them.

Do we go by what our senses tell us, or do we believe God?

[AphroditeFisher]

I think the term "healed" should be clarified. If you are physically sick or ill, God does not always want you to be healed, because being sick/ill does not determine your actual standing in the Kingdom of God and that is the most important thing to consider when considering God's will for us... Jesus healed people through God's will and that was because it brought these healed people closer to God's Kingdom through faith.

Healed in the sense of being spiritually healed is something that God wants for everybody, because by knowing God's will, we are healed and thus (by default) also part of His Kingdom. That is why we should spread His word... through love that can only be supplied by God.

[Francis Dan Sewell]

No mystery about what God's will is. He put it in writing, it's called the Bible.
Man didn't name God Jehovah Rapha, God called Himself that name, among others which describe Him.
Faith is believing what God has said in his will [word]. He said in his word, that without faith, it is impossible to please Him. Hebrews 11:6

If we don't believe He is our healer, we won't be healed. Mt. 9:22

[mark53]

God wants everyone to be healed? What is "being healed"? Physical? Spiritual?
Many believe that if one has faith we can be healed! PROBLEM If that is the case if one has faith he/she will live forever!

We all will be healed, one day, when we get to heaven (whatever that may be 2 u). Even then I believe that we still have a choice to let God completely change us to be like Him.

[one way]

God wants everyone to be healed, but it's our choice if we want to believe that we'll be healed. If we don't think we'll be healed, we probably won't be.

[JacqS]

Perhaps the Poll should have been "Does God want everyone to be healed of physical problems in this life?" to that, the answer is NO, but, to "Does God want everyone to be healed, the answer is, ultimately, Yes, when we are all made whole, whether you believe we die and 'go to heaven' or if you believe in a 'sleeping death' and resurrection at Christs return... ultimately we all (christians!) believe in the promise of a perfect, pure, eternal life with God...dont we? :angel: (although I dont believe we 'become angels'...we were created to be "a little higher than the angels" Gods children, not his messengers and servants.

[Alive again]

Ditto!

[B®ent]

Healed in the physical sense? If God wanted everyone to be healed, then everyone would be healed. Last time I checked, there isn't anything God can't do. :) So in my opinion the answer is no.

Without suffering there would be no compassion. Right? For from God, and to God, and through God are all things: To God be the Glory forever. God uses all things, even the worst suffering, to His Glory. He could stop it, but He won't. :)

Peace to All,
Johannes

[mycatspice]

Healed in the physical sense? If God wanted everyone to be healed, then everyone would be healed. Last time I checked, there isn't anything God can't do. :) So in my opinion the answer is no.

Without suffering there would be no compassion. Right? For from God, and to God, and through God are all things: To God be the Glory forever. God uses all things, even the worst suffering, to His Glory. He could stop it, but He won't. :)

Peace to All,
Johannes

That's true :thumbsup: Happy Birthday by the way Johannes :)

[B®ent]

That's