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Gcront
21st April 2005, 12:30 PM
Spirit of the Churches

The Book of Revelation is a very extremely spiritual book, and we also have to have a spiritual understanding before we can understand. For this can only come from the high-wisdom that is given only by God, and not by this high-education given only from the teaching that as come from the son’s of man, for they are only men that was once created also by this very same God themselves. For with what Christ was saying unto the churches, this was only through the Spirit of the Holy Spirit unto John, which it might become interpreted when the right time shall arrive.
There are many that believe that this is a book that is still standing in the boundaries of its own high walls, the walls of the old promise land within the Holy Land of long ago. They seem to think that this wall is standing in the bound of no control, bounds that can have no understanding. They think that this is a wall that cannot be broken, that is until after the Second Coming of our one and only Christ.
They seem to think that this is a high wall of the Holy Land, which cannot be overcome or conquered not even by the great Godhead Himself, which even Christ cannot have given his message out of the Book of Revelation. If this was true within anyway, then the whole Book of Revelation would have had been prophesied without cause, or without any value. For when Christ come back we will then be able to set down with our great Savior unto all of his understanding, then this Book of Revelation would have been of no use.
Then we would find this great book to be very unfruitful, then why would have Christ came back to earth to give these prophecies unto John. For if they were going to be worthless unto the son of man, which shall also become man’s most trying times here on earth leading up to the Tribulations. This is when the beast of knowledge shall take over, when man cannot buy or sell without his number of this great knowledge given unto the sons of man.
These many churches of Revelation have now died through our many ages, but with the eternity of these their angels over these churches and also with the likes and dislikes of Christ they shall once again be lifted up in their own time. Then also from this light of these seven golden candlesticks, they shall be lifted up to shine out much more brightly than ever before through out the whole world.
Then with these seven stares clenched tightly in Christ’s mighty right hand, being the angels of these churches they shall be pulled together by becoming one, this is as they shall once again strive and come forth here within our last days before all nations and unto all men. This is as Jesus told John in the hereafter, this is the same as we find in the Book of Revelation, coming from Rev. 1: 18,19,20.
“I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
“Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;”
“The mystery of the seven stars which thy sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.”

Thanks Herbert

Telrunya
21st April 2005, 01:35 PM
I dont get it. What is this wall of the Holy Land that some say God Himself cannot conquer? To me the Bible says God is all powerful. He is the Creator of heaven and earth including the Holy Land of Israel. I'm just not sure of what you wanted to discuss here. Who says that God cannot over come this wall? What is this wall? What do the seven spirits have to do with this wall?

Djmatchu
21st April 2005, 04:51 PM
What do the seven spirits have to do with this wall? what are the seven spirits?:confused:

Telrunya
21st April 2005, 06:08 PM
what are the seven spirits?:confused:

Revelation 1:20 "As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

The seven churches are all from the Asia minor area and are Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea. That is who John addressed the letter of Revelation too.

Gcront
21st April 2005, 06:27 PM
To: Telrunya and Djmatchue

Telrunya
I have heard so many say that the Revelation is not to be understood, while others say that everything shall happen in the Holy Land as if God is sewed up only in the Holy Land, you would think that this is the only place on earth that God can attend.

Then to Djmatchu
God is known as the Seven Spirts of the Godhead, even in the Book of Revelelation, we find the seven churches, the seven stars, and the seven angels, with this being the Glory of God.

Thank you very much Herbert.

Telrunya
22nd April 2005, 10:29 AM
To: Telrunya and Djmatchue

Telrunya
I have heard so many say that the Revelation is not to be understood, while others say that everything shall happen in the Holy Land as if God is sewed up only in the Holy Land, you would think that this is the only place on earth that God can attend.

I hadn't ever heard anyone say anything like that. Most of the people I discuss escatology with recognize that the events of Revelation will be world wide. It certainly mentions Babylon and that isn't in Israel. It also says that it will affect all nations and all peoples. To me that pretty much means what it says.