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Zacharias
19th April 2005, 01:57 PM
Reprinted from NewsMax.com

Sunday, April 3, 2005 6:01 p.m. EDT

Saint's Prophecy: Only Two Popes Remain

When the cardinals of the world pick John Paul II's successor, they may well be choosing the next-to-last pope.

The pope who then follows this choice in the Chair of St. Peter will be the last pope, and after his reign Rome will be destroyed.

Such has been the prophecy of St. Malachy, an Irish bishop who at his death in 1148 A.D. was discovered to have left behind a prophetic list of all future popes beginning with Pope Celestine II, whose papacy began in 1143 A.D.

Malachy included a single line in Latin identifying a characteristic of each pope.

Historians say Malachy's prediction – wherein he listed just 112 popes – has been amazingly accurate.

According to his list, there are just two more popes after the late John Paul II.

Here are the seven last popes as identified from St. Malachy's list:

106. Pius XII 1939 - 1958
Eugenio Pacelli
Pastor Angelicus
Translated: An Angelic Shepherd

107. John XXIII 1968 - 1963
Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli
Pastor Et Natua
Translated: Pastor and Mariner

108. Paul VI 1963 - 1978
Giovanni Battista Montini
Flos Florum
Translated: Flower of Flowers

109. John Paul I 1978 - 1978
Albino Luciani
De Medietate Lunae
Translated: Of the Half Moon

110. John Paul II 1978 - 2005
Karol Jozef Wojtyla
De Labore Solis
Translated: From the Toil of the Sun

111. The next pope
"Gloria Olivae"
Translated: The Glory of the Olive

112. The last pope!
"Petrus Romanus"
Translated: Peter the Roman

Wrote St. Malachy of the last pope: "In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge the people. The End."

According to his biographer St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his book "Life of Saint Malachy," the saint was known to have the gift of prophesy and had even predicted the exact day and hour of his own death. Saint Malachy was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III.

While in Rome in 1139, Saint Malachy is said to have gone into a trance and received a vision in which he foresaw all the popes from the death of Innocent II until the end of time.

Afterward he wrote a few words about each pope and gave the manuscript to Pope Innocent II, who is said to have deposited it in Vatican Archives, where it lay forgotten until it was discovered in 1590 and published. At the time, some questioned its authenticity and it has been the subject of debate ever since.

The manuscript contains 112 prophecies, which scholars have matched with each of the 110 popes and anti-popes since Innocent II .

Here are the prophecies for the most recent popes:

# Paul VI. The words of the 108th prophecy are "Flos Florum" (Flower of Flowers). The 108th pope after Innocent II was Paul VI (1963-78). His coat of arms included three fleurs-de-lis (iris blossoms).

# John Paul I. The 109th is "De Medietate Lunae" (Of the Half Moon). The corresponding pope was John Paul I (1978-78), who was born in the diocese of Belluno (beautiful moon) and was baptized Albino Luciani (white light). He became pope on August 26, 1978, when the moon appeared exactly half full. It was in its waning phase. He died the following month, soon after an eclipse of the moon.

# John Paul II. The 110th is "De Labore Solis" (Of the Solar Eclipse, or From the Toil of the Sun). The corresponding pope was John Paul II (1978-2005). John Paul II was born on May 8, 1920 during an eclipse of the sun. Like the sun, he came out of the East (Poland). Like the sun, he visited countries all around the globe.

Today the final two prophecies are yet to be fulfilled:

The 111th prophecy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The meaning of the olive is unclear. The Order of Saint Benedict – not St. Malachy – has claimed that this pope will come from its ranks and Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its final fight against evil.

The 112th prophecy says, "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman), who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people.

PaladinValer
19th April 2005, 02:23 PM
He isn't a Saint if he's wrong...

Needless to say, there will most likely be many, many, MANY more popes after Benedict XVI.

Zacharias
19th April 2005, 02:33 PM
He isn't a Saint if he's wrong...

Needless to say, there will most likely be many, many, MANY more popes after Benedict XVI.

110 times he has been correct, why do you doubt him? :)

PaladinValer
19th April 2005, 02:42 PM
The record is against all End Times "prophets" by...well....0 to All.

I do not recognize false prophets.

Wigglesworth
19th April 2005, 03:05 PM
May Benedict XVI live for a long, long time.

:crossrc:

Zacharias
19th April 2005, 03:05 PM
I do not recognize false prophets.

I recognize false prophets, and this one isn't a false prophet. The past 110 prophesies have been true. How could that be if he was a false prophet? :)

PaladinValer
19th April 2005, 03:13 PM
Easier than you may think.

Colabomb
19th April 2005, 03:24 PM
Easier than you may think.
I havn't viewed his list, but many times things like this are full of vaguities.

PaladinValer
19th April 2005, 03:28 PM
All of them all. True prophets are exceptionally rare.

gitlance
19th April 2005, 03:51 PM
Well then, I suggest we find out what Benedict XVI has to do with an Olive....

I'll leave that up to you prophecy buffs. In the meantime, I'll just pray that the Lord tarries until He is ready.

:crossrc::crossrc:

BjBarnett
19th April 2005, 04:05 PM
Well then, I suggest we find out what Benedict XVI has to do with an Olive....

I'll leave that up to you prophecy buffs. In the meantime, I'll just pray that the Lord tarries until He is ready.

:crossrc::crossrc:


dont quote me on this or anything but i think hes a benedictine priest and they are called "olivetines" or something that effect. plus he chose the name Benedict which would correspond with that. but like I said take my word with a grain of salt because I dont know much about priest groups (jesuits, benedictines, etc..) and I dunno for sure that Pope Benedict XVI is one. but that would be really odd if he were.

RobNJ
19th April 2005, 04:17 PM
Well then, I suggest we find out what Benedict XVI has to do with an Olive....

I'll leave that up to you prophecy buffs. In the meantime, I'll just pray that the Lord tarries until He is ready.

:crossrc::crossrc:

Martini drinker?;)

The world will end when God decides it will.
As the man once said:
"Don't worry about the world ending today, it's already tomorrow in Australia"
:thumbsup:

Rilian
19th April 2005, 04:20 PM
dont quote me on this or anything but i think hes a benedictine priest and they are called "olivetines" or something that effect. plus he chose the name Benedict which would correspond with that. but like I said take my word with a grain of salt because I dont know much about priest groups (jesuits, benedictines, etc..) and I dunno for sure that Pope Benedict XVI is one. but that would be really odd if he were.

He isn't a Benedictine.

pmcleanj
19th April 2005, 04:24 PM
Martini drinker?;)

The world will end when God decides it will.
As the man once said:
"Don't worry about the world ending today, it's already tomorrow in Australia"
:thumbsup:
And as the CBC announcer puts it:

"The world will end at midnight; 12:30 in Newfoundland"

(at least Inside Edge and Songspinner will get the funny)

BjBarnett
19th April 2005, 04:25 PM
He isn't a Benedictine.

oh my bad then. I heard someone say that he was today but I didnt know if it was truth or not. Thanks for correcting me :)

RobNJ
19th April 2005, 04:39 PM
110 times he has been correct, why do you doubt him? :)

I doubt him.... either way, God willing, one of us will be able to go "SEE, I told you so!" to the other .....in heaven!!:amen:

Inside Edge
19th April 2005, 05:06 PM
"The world will end at midnight; 12:30 in Newfoundland"
^_^

julian the apostate
19th April 2005, 07:40 PM
the prophecies are generally considered forgeries

bubblefish
19th April 2005, 07:49 PM
Nobody other than the father knows the exact time, and I suggest that we dont really worry about it. We should be worrying about now, and what we can be doing to serve God and build his kingdom.
Thats just my opinion anyway..
GOD BLESS

RedneckAnglican
19th April 2005, 08:01 PM
May Benedict XVI live for a long, long time.

:crossrc:

I'll second that emotion...

Zacharias
19th April 2005, 08:57 PM
I doubt him.... either way, God willing, one of us will be able to go "SEE, I told you so!" to the other .....in heaven!!:amen:

LOL :D

Fish and Bread
19th April 2005, 09:57 PM
Doesn't the bible say that no one knows that day or the hour? If that's the case, it would seem to me that none of these prophecies could possibly be legitimately from God and any predictions along logical lines would likely not be what God is planning. He wants us to be surprised. If anyone turns out to be right in predicting the end of the world, therefore, it's probably just a coincidence.

John

Zacharias
20th April 2005, 07:23 AM
Doesn't the bible say that no one knows that day or the hour? If that's the case, it would seem to me that none of these prophecies could possibly be legitimately from God and any predictions along logical lines would likely not be what God is planning. He wants us to be surprised. If anyone turns out to be right in predicting the end of the world, therefore, it's probably just a coincidence.

John

Say that we know, for a fact, that Pope Peter II is the last Pope and that the world ends with him. We still wouldn't know the day and hour that Jesus is coming back. :)

gitlance
20th April 2005, 08:58 AM
Say that we know, for a fact, that Pope Peter II is the last Pope and that the world ends with him. We still wouldn't know the day and hour that Jesus is coming back. :)

Are popes even allowed to take the name Peter?

julian the apostate
20th April 2005, 09:43 AM
yes
and they have

Zacharias
20th April 2005, 10:29 AM
yes
and they have

Actually I just checked the list of Popes and no one has ever chosen the name Peter. :)

Jamme
20th April 2005, 01:36 PM
The first ever Pope was Peter.
So the next one to take the name will be Peter the second :)

Colabomb
20th April 2005, 03:22 PM
The first ever Pope was Peter.
So the next one to take the name will be Peter the second :)
Peter was named peter by Christ, so technically Freak is correct on that one :)

UberLutheran
20th April 2005, 06:18 PM
There's a reason for that.

People have been predicting the End of Time and the Second Coming of Christ for 2,000 years and occasionally throwing themselves into a dither (and on a few occasions, mad panic) calculating the exact moment and plotting the exact sequence of events which will lead up to The Moment.

God's not going to give us that information. Period. We might as well just get used to that fact.

In the meantime, should we find ourselves lacking for anything to do, Jesus has some suggestions for us:

31 "But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then will he sit on the throne of his glory.
32 Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
33 He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then the King will tell them on his right hand, 'Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world;
35 for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in;
36 naked, and you clothed me; I was sick, and you visited me; I was in prison, and you came to me.'
37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink?
38 When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you?
39 When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?'
40 The King will answer them, 'Most assuredly I tell you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'
41 Then will he say also to them on the left hand, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels;
42 for I was hungry, and you didn't give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink;
43 I was a stranger, and you didn't take me in; naked, and you didn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me.'
44 Then will they also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not help you?'
45 Then will he answer them, saying, 'Most assuredly I tell you, inasmuch as you didn't do it to one of these least, you didn't do it to me.'

Zacharias
20th April 2005, 06:33 PM
There's a reason for that.

People have been predicting the End of Time and the Second Coming of Christ for 2,000 years and occasionally throwing themselves into a dither (and on a few occasions, mad panic) calculating the exact moment and plotting the exact sequence of events which will lead up to The Moment.

God's not going to give us that information. Period. We might as well just get used to that fact.

In the meantime, should we find ourselves lacking for anything to do, Jesus has some suggestions for us:

Even if the prophesy is true we still wouldn't know the day or hour that Jesus is coming back. Would Jesus come back after 5 years with Peter the Roman or after 10 years? :)

benedictine
20th April 2005, 07:39 PM
Perhaps he meantr that no one alive THEN new the day nor hour? (just playing devil's advocate. pun not intended.)