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St.Augustine
14th April 2005, 10:41 AM
I am interested in learning about the ecclesiology of the apiscopal/Anglican church. Can you recommend any materials? :)
gitlance
14th April 2005, 04:34 PM
Well, we are a branch of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church -- we were founded in 33 AD by Jesus Christ.

If you want more than that, you may get some debates, but we all like debates around here..... ;)
gtsecc
14th April 2005, 09:06 PM
In an interesting sort of way, we have things in coomon with Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestants.
Cjwinnit
15th April 2005, 05:03 PM
In church terms we are that cute mongrel that everyone pets and wants to play with but no-one can tether a leash to.
TomUK
15th April 2005, 08:35 PM
In church terms we are that cute mongrel that everyone pets and wants to play with but no-one can tether a leash to.

Except we are actually the pedigree. We are the one Holy Catholic Apostolic church that Church history refers to, and i have no doubt we are the modern fulfillment of the church that Jesus himself prophecied.

The Anglican church really needs to stop selling herself short. We are not the poor brother/sister of the Catholic/Orthodox tradition. We are the Church who will bring the gospel to all non-Christians. Let's stop knocking who we are and start honouring Christ's command.
pmcleanj
15th April 2005, 09:28 PM
Except we are actually the pedigree. We are the one Holy Catholic Apostolic church that Church history refers to, and i have no doubt we are the modern fulfillment of the church that Jesus himself prophecied.

The Anglican church really needs to stop selling herself short. We are not the poor brother/sister of the Catholic/Orthodox tradition. We are the Church who will bring the gospel to all non-Christians. Let's stop knocking who we are and start honouring Christ's command.


:thumbsup: Hear, Hear! :thumbsup:

Preach it, Brother!
:clap:
gitlance
15th April 2005, 10:36 PM
Except we are actually the pedigree. We are the one Holy Catholic Apostolic church that Church history refers to, and i have no doubt we are the modern fulfillment of the church that Jesus himself prophecied.

The Anglican church really needs to stop selling herself short. We are not the poor brother/sister of the Catholic/Orthodox tradition. We are the Church who will bring the gospel to all non-Christians. Let's stop knocking who we are and start honouring Christ's command.

AMEN!!!!! AMEN!!!!! AMEN!!!!!

That is so incredibly true!
masuwerte
15th April 2005, 10:50 PM
Except we are actually the pedigree. We are the one Holy Catholic Apostolic church that Church history refers to, and i have no doubt we are the modern fulfillment of the church that Jesus himself prophecied.

The Anglican church really needs to stop selling herself short. We are not the poor brother/sister of the Catholic/Orthodox tradition. We are the Church who will bring the gospel to all non-Christians. Let's stop knocking who we are and start honouring Christ's command.

Indeed. :)
julian the apostate
15th April 2005, 11:00 PM
you know tom , anglicanism is by definition so non-triumphalist that you may actually be on to something

but it will be due in no small part to the inclination in the anglican nature to not be triumphalist

good post
gitlance
15th April 2005, 11:05 PM
Except we are actually the pedigree. We are the one Holy Catholic Apostolic church that Church history refers to, and i have no doubt we are the modern fulfillment of the church that Jesus himself prophecied.

The Anglican church really needs to stop selling herself short. We are not the poor brother/sister of the Catholic/Orthodox tradition. We are the Church who will bring the gospel to all non-Christians. Let's stop knocking who we are and start honouring Christ's command.

I'm sorry, I just had to say this again...

AMEN!!!!! AMEN!!!!! AMEN!!!!!

:amen:

:clap:
St.Augustine
16th April 2005, 05:32 AM
The problem I have is that I am unable to find episcopalism in the NT. So can you show me where it is?
gtsecc
16th April 2005, 09:16 AM
The problem I have is that I am unable to find episcopalism in the NT. So can you show me where it is?
Jesus came and set up a church, not a Bible.
This church later set up the Bible as a standard.
In John 20, we see the annointing of the disciples, and the beggining of apostolic succesion. Are you intereses in early church history or what?
Fish and Bread
16th April 2005, 09:17 AM
Hi St, Augustine,

Don't be so literal. :-) *None* of the major denominational sects are mentioned by name in the New Testament. There are some references to "the church of God" and some denomination decided to purposely name themselves after that reference, but they did so in like the 1800s, and the biblical reference was almost certainly intended as a general one in any event. And, no, that doesn't mean we should all be non-denominational. It just means God cares more about our walk with Christ than the name of our fellowships.

John
PaladinValer
16th April 2005, 09:43 AM
We are the Church founded in Acts of the Apostles when the Holy Spirit was bestowed on the Apostles, ordaining them the first bishops.
gtsecc
16th April 2005, 09:51 AM
We are the Church founded in Acts of the Apostles when the Holy Spirit was bestowed on the Apostles, ordaining them the first bishops.
Augustine, you can read about in John 20.
St.Augustine
18th April 2005, 07:10 AM
Augustine, you can read about in John 20.

I am interested in early church history by the way :).

I take it you mean "Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you." I agree that this shows that Christ sent his apostles but where to we find the apostles ordaining bishops (Acts 14:23;Titus 1:5?) and then the bishops ordaining bishops etc?