Good Wednesday?

[Peter]

I was involved with a conversation with a Baptist gentleman who claimed that Jesus was crucified and buried on Wednesday. Is this a universal Baptist thought and teaching? I used to be Baptist and never heard anything about it, but did wonder about the whole "three days in the tomb" thing lining up with a literal 24 hour time frame.

Peace.

Rdr. Peter

[GreenEyedLady]

I was involved with a conversation with a Baptist gentleman who claimed that Jesus was crucified and buried on Wednesday. Is this a universal Baptist thought and teaching? I used to be Baptist and never heard anything about it, but did wonder about the whole "three days in the tomb" thing lining up with a literal 24 hour time frame.

Peace.

Rdr. Peter

Yes, it should be good Wednesday!
You cannot get 3 whole days from Friday to Sunday. Its just not possible.
I wonder where they got Good Friday from??????????????

GEL

[TwinCrier]

I've also been taught that Jesus died on a Thursday, that Friday represents the day he was placed in the grave and arose Sunday.

[Peter]

Well, that certainly is curious.
So, what is Mark meaning when he writes:

"And when evening had already come, because it was the preparation day, that is, the day before the Sabbath, Joseph of Arimathia came...and asked for the body of Jesus."

"And Joseph bought a linen cloth, took Him down, wrapped Him in the linen cloth, and laid Him in a tomb.."

Mark 15:43&46

Do I miss my mark then in understanding that Wednesday was the day before the Sabbath?

Peace.

Rdr. Peter

[Peter]

Oh, in respose to your question regarding where Good Friday came from, have you ever read the following:

"For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn; and on the day after Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His disciples, He taught them these things."

Justin Martyr (100-165 AD)

Peace.

Rdr. Peter

[GreenEyedLady]

Tecnically the days were counted from sun rise to sun set. So the day "before the sabbath" could be Wensday night or Thurday morning.

[unimportantbuthisnameis]

Seeing how the Passover is ALWAYS on Thursday and that is the day of the last supper, then Christ had to die on Fri....the day before the Sabbath. As for the thought of it being three literal days in the grave it was not the 24 hour time framem but rather being placed in the grave on Fri. afternnon as a corpse could not be hanging on the Sabbath by Jewish law (day 1), Saturday (day 2) or the Sabbath and arose the first day of the week (day 3). Nowhere in the Scripture does it say that it was three 24 hour tmie periods. No a Wed. or Thurs. view is not the Baptist norm, although so believe it.

[Peter]

Thank you.

Peace.

Rdr. Peter

[2Timothy2]

Some of my family believes He died on Wed. Since Matthew says 3 days and 3 nights, they say there needs to be time allowed for that, and a Friday crucifixion doesn't account for the alloted time.

However, I think Matthew was using an idiom, or at least not being as precise with time as we are wont to be. I understand the Passover to be on Thursday also, so that means the trial was Thursday night/Friday morning. I think we sometimes read our Western style precision for numbers and time into Scripture, but the culture in which they were written did not view numbers and time with the same outlook, with regards to precision. (but I've been wrong before :) )

[Peter]

2timothy2,

Could you post your Matthew verse(s) regarding three days/three nights? Much appreciated.

Peace.

Rdr. Peter

[2Timothy2]

2timothy2,

Could you post your Matthew verse(s) regarding three days/three nights? Much appreciated.

Peace.

Rdr. Peter

Sure. The context is that the Pharisees asked Jesus for a sign. This is His response:

Matthew 12:39-42

[Peter]

There you go! Im very busy with about a half dozen other things.
Thanks.

Peace.

Rdr. Peter

[desert_island_1]

Never heard of Him dying on any day but the friday...

[bleechers]

The Jews had a number of non-Saturday Sabbaths. John specifically tells us that this Sabbath was a "high day" thus signifying that it was not the usual Friday sunset, hense, his parenthetical note.

"The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

As I understand it, the Passover is not "always on a Thursday," but it is always on the same day of the year.

"These are the feasts of the LORD, holy convocations which you shall proclaim at their appointed times. On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the LORD's Passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the LORD; seven days you must eat unleavened bread.

Jonah was surely in the belly of the fish for a full three days and three nights. Depending on how you calculate that, Jesus must have been crucified on Wednesday or Thursday and He arose before dawn ("when it was yet dark") on the first day of the week.

Two cents. :)

[GreenEyedLady]

John 13:1-2 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end. And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him;




Seeing how the Passover is ALWAYS on Thursday and that is the day of the last supper, then Christ had to die on Fri....the day before the Sabbath. As for the thought of it being three literal days in the grave it was not the 24 hour time framem but rather being placed in the grave on Fri. afternnon as a corpse could not be hanging on the Sabbath by Jewish law (day 1), Saturday (day 2) or the Sabbath and arose the first day of the week (day 3). Nowhere in the Scripture does it say that it was three 24 hour tmie periods. No a Wed. or Thurs. view is not the Baptist norm, although so believe it.


The Lords Supper was the night BEFORE the passover not the night of the passover. He was arrested the same night which I think must have been tuesday. The Lords supper was NOT on passover. The Jews always counted the days from Sunset to Sunset. There is no way he could have been arrested, had a court hearing by 2 differant people, been crucifed AND made in in the grave on friday afternoon. What day do you suppose he went to Pilate?

I think its more of the "norm" than you think among Baptist.

GEL

[Peter]

Thank you all for your responses. It has been very interesting. However, for my "Two cents," I shall continue to hold to that which has been taught since the early 100's, Jesus was "crucified on the day before that of Saturn," as written by Justin Martyr (100-165 AD).

Peace.

Rdr. Peter

[Tappanga]

Tecnically the days were counted from sun rise to sun set. So the day "before the sabbath" could be Wensday night or Thurday morning.


This is what I was taught.

He died and was entombed before sunset Friday. That was counted as one day.

Sabbath. Day Two.

Sunday morning when he arose. Day three.

Three days.

In ancient times, the day you started in was counted as well. That's why it says it was eight days between when Jesus visited the disciples in the room (church on a Sunday) when Thomas was not with them and when He visited again and Thomas put his hand it His side (also at church on a Sunday). They counted both Sundays.

[GreenEyedLady]

This is what I was taught.

He died and was entombed before sunset Friday. That was counted as one day.

Sabbath. Day Two.

Sunday morning when he arose. Day three.

Three days.

In ancient times, the day you started in was counted as well. That's why it says it was eight days between when Jesus visited the disciples in the room (church on a Sunday) when Thomas was not with them and when He visited again and Thomas put his hand it His side (also at church on a Sunday). They counted both Sundays.

I think its a far reach to say that he ate the Lord supper on thurday night and died before sunset on friday. Where does one place the rest of the story in less than 12 hours???

[Mary of Bethany]

This is what I was taught.

He died and was entombed before sunset Friday. That was counted as one day.

Sabbath. Day Two.

Sunday morning when he arose. Day three.

Three days.

In ancient times, the day you started in was counted as well. That's why it says it was eight days between when Jesus visited the disciples in the room (church on a Sunday) when Thomas was not with them and when He visited again and Thomas put his hand it His side (also at church on a Sunday). They counted both Sundays.

This is also what I was taught. In all my (37) years as a Baptist, I never heard it taught any other way.

Mary

[Tappanga]

I think its a far reach to say that he ate the Lord supper on thurday night and died before sunset on friday. Where does one place the rest of the story in less than 12 hours???

I'm not quite sure what you mean. Maybe I'm leaving out an event or two but here are the events as I remember them: Lord's supper, prayer in the garden, arrest, meeting Pilate, beating by guards, appearing before Pilate again, being sentenced, cruxifiction. Did I leave anything out?

The bible clearly says that all happens in one night. Matt 26:17 through Matt 27:61. Its less than 24 hours...

If you think of how badly the Jews hated Jesus, it makes sense to think they'd want Him put to death immediately. Plus the reason that Joseph of Arimathea was rushing to get Jesus in the tomb is that sunset was coming, which would mark the beginning of the Sabbath. They had to get Him in because when Sabbath began, they were not supposed to do anything like that. I've also been taught that the reason Mary Magdalene was going to the tomb on Sunday was to annoint His body properly. They annointed Him on Friday night, but had to rush, and she was returning to give His body a proper burial.

[Sephania]

I did a two week long study on this this year and finally have gotten over all the hurdles to understand this most important time, but alas I am not allowed to post here. If you are interested I will post in the GT forum and we can discuss there. :)
~Zayit

[Sephania]

I have posted a thread about this in the Gt forum http://www.christianforums.com/t1486046-understanding-passover-in-the-year-our-l-rd-was-crucified.html and can answer any questions about this there. Many may not know the depth of how signifigant this understanding to their faith and hope in the return of the Savior is regarding these three feasts.