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Max__
7th April 2005, 08:13 PM
(If i can't please god then what's the poin't of living and without god there is no life so what do i do?) Hi this is the quistion that i constantly think about because i am tired of sinning.God does so much for me and all i do is put him down.When i sin i don't feel god with me i feel empty like there is no life in me.Then When i pray and ask for forgivness i feel great.The longer i have a realationship with god the harder the guilt is when i sin.I need to be freed from sin once and for all but i don't know how.Inside me i feel like i am being ripped in half I WANT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT but i can't.Honestly i only see 2 option's in life

1 Be freed from sin or

2 Not serve god,Put him on a hold during this stage i felt EMPTY like i was missing something but atleast i felt no pain,guilt for not listining to god.I feel like i don't deserve god .My soul is crying for help i feel that.And i don't know how to help my self.Please help me answear my quistions please.

MG
7th April 2005, 08:25 PM
Romans 7:15-21

I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree the that law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me....

I encourage you to read the rest in your Bible.

If Paul, a great apostle who spread the gospel to THOUSANDS and a wonderful man of God, had issues battling his flesh, how much more so for you and I?

Don't beat yourself up, we are all in this boat with you. Be still, and hear the loving voice of Jesus. He took care of that for you. If you focus too much on how "bad" you are, you blind yourself to the wonderful grace that is before you!

You are white as snow my dear because you are covered in the blood of the Lamb!!!! :thumbsup:

jesusfreak3786
7th April 2005, 08:34 PM
MG,

Thank God for that, and AMEN! The battle is hard no doubt.

Ginny
7th April 2005, 10:33 PM
(If i can't please god then what's the poin't of living and without god there is no life so what do i do?) Hi this is the quistion that i constantly think about because i am tired of sinning.

This is called conviction and is proof the Holy Spirit resides within you! Isn't that awesome?

God does so much for me and all i do is put him down.When i sin i don't feel god with me i feel empty like there is no life in me.

We are separated from God when we sin until we ask for forgiveness, that's why!

Then When i pray and ask for forgivness i feel great.The longer i have a realationship with god the harder the guilt is when i sin.I need to be freed from sin once and for all but i don't know how.

Jesus paid for all your sins....each and every one that you will commit until the day you die. If you were not so close to Jesus, you would not be so troubled. Our entire life will be a mission to be perfect like Jesus. With experience as a Christian, you will take these awful feelings that you have after you sin and use them for your future walk. We remember how bad it feels and as time goes on you will Sin Less, but never be sinless.


Inside me i feel like i am being ripped in half I WANT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT but i can't.Honestly i only see 2 option's in life

1 Be freed from sin or

2 Not serve god,Put him on a hold during this stage i felt EMPTY like i was missing something but atleast i felt no pain,guilt for not listining to god.I feel like i don't deserve god .My soul is crying for help i feel that.And i don't know how to help my self.Please help me answear my quistions please.

Max, I know you know who Satan is. Unfortunately he is just as real as God. He will use everything in his power against you to make you feel weak, worthless, and useless as a child of God....especially at this point in your life when you are trying to live for God the best you can. Why would Satan bother an unbeliever? Because an unbeliever is not a threat! Why do you think it is so easy to be an unbeliever? Like you said, you felt no guilt and no pain. But God has something greater for you Max....an eternal relationship that Satan cannot break up. I know and am familiar with the physical pain and turmoil you are feeling. It's like you feel like you are going nuts! Don't dare think about going back to the old self. Jesus died for you and waited a long time for you, Max, to turn to him.

I urge you to go to a quiet place where there are no disruptions. He already knows your heart. He, too, has read your post. Get on your face and just lay it all before Him. I guarantee you that you will feel strength when you are done speaking with Him...like a weight has been lifted off of your shoulders. Be quiet, too, and ask him to clear your mind so that He can speak to you and you will hear Him.

I bet He will say, " I love you, Max.":bow:

StevenL
7th April 2005, 11:08 PM
Max, you're very young yet. Don't despair. You've got a lot to learn yet, my friend.

May I encourage you:

Get some time with God by yourself, like Ginny said. And get out your Bible and read Romans 6, 7, & 8 about 5,000 times and ask God to reveal to you what that teaching really means. When the Morning Star arises your heart, you will move from Romans 7.....TO ROMANS 8. God did not call you to live in Romans 7.....that's for the defeated, dead law-keepers who are still trying to serve God in the FLESH. Ask God in FAITH to fill you with His Spirit....then BELIEVE that He has done it WHEN YOU ASK HIM, and then let Him lead you to Victory...IN THE SPIRIT. He will NO DOUBT do it!

Also read the first few verses of James 1 and DO what he says there. Ask God IN FAITH for Wisdom....and He will give it to you if you'll NOT DOUBT. Can you really ask God for this with No Doubt....believing Him without reservation? Of course you can. Do you think He's going to ask you to do something you CAN'T DO? No indeed.

Have faith in God Brother!

jesusfreak3786
7th April 2005, 11:39 PM
This is called conviction and is proof the Holy Spirit resides within you! Isn't that awesome?

We are separated from God when we sin until we ask for forgiveness, that's why!

Jesus paid for all your sins....each and every one that you will commit until the day you die. If you were not so close to Jesus, you would not be so troubled. Our entire life will be a mission to be perfect like Jesus. With experience as a Christian, you will take these awful feelings that you have after you sin and use them for your future walk. We remember how bad it feels and as time goes on you will Sin Less, but never be sinless.


Max, I know you know who Satan is. Unfortunately he is just as real as God. He will use everything in his power against you to make you feel weak, worthless, and useless as a child of God....especially at this point in your life when you are trying to live for God the best you can. Why would Satan bother an unbeliever? Because an unbeliever is not a threat! Why do you think it is so easy to be an unbeliever? Like you said, you felt no guilt and no pain. But God has something greater for you Max....an eternal relationship that Satan cannot break up. I know and am familiar with the physical pain and turmoil you are feeling. It's like you feel like you are going nuts! Don't dare think about going back to the old self. Jesus died for you and waited a long time for you, Max, to turn to him.

I urge you to go to a quiet place where there are no disruptions. He already knows your heart. He, too, has read your post. Get on your face and just lay it all before Him. I guarantee you that you will feel strength when you are done speaking with Him...like a weight has been lifted off of your shoulders. Be quiet, too, and ask him to clear your mind so that He can speak to you and you will hear Him.

I bet He will say, " I love you, Max.":bow:


I could not have said it better myself. God bless you max, God loves you even if you are sinnful that is why He sacrificed His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, you need to pray, and above all trust our Father in every single step of your life, depend on Him to raise you He will not forsake you. (by the way what you described is exactly what I had been feeling as little as 1 week ago, for a couple months, just pray and trust. Oh yeah it helps to also spend time with your brothers and sisters in Christ, I am very thankfull that you shared your anguish. Love very much, me.:hug: :groupray:

x Genuine For Christ x
8th April 2005, 10:19 AM
Max, sometimes we get down in the dumps and continually accuse ourselves when all along we have an attourney who says "Hey! Stop! The case is won... you're free, stop beating yourself up over it!"

If you get the time to go buy a book, buy "Battlefield of the Mind" by Joyce Meyers. I'm even planning on seeing if my aunt will let me borrow it again.

Bro, what we always seem to do is beat up ourselves... learn that Christ is inside you and outside you... all you have to do when you do sin is go to God and say "Abba (Daddy), I'm sorry... help me do better." And needless to say, yes we will make mistakes, but that's because we're human.

I'll be praying for you, and if you ever need someone to talk to... feel free to PM me or whatever. :)

Izzy23
8th April 2005, 05:01 PM
God is working with you when you recognize you are being disobedient. There will come a time when He will completely purge you of your temptation. At that time you have to make a conscious decision and say NO MORE. We've all been there and there is victory. Freedom is awesome.
Praying for ya...:prayer:

Peace
Izzy

heartnsoul
9th April 2005, 07:01 PM
Another way to look at it is this: If we were all perfect, we wouldn't need God anymore. It is BECAUSE we are sinful and not perfect, that we so desperately need God's grace and mercy, true? ;) God knows your heart and He knows all His children struggle with sin. What's sin for you may not be sin for someone else and vice-versa. Your heart is in the right place. Strive to do the right thing everyday, but realize that we all will fall short no matter how hard we try because we are human. As others have said, the key is not to beat yourself up. Pick up your cross daily and choose to walk with God. When you fall, repent, get back up again and keep walking. Spiritual growth takes time. You take a few steps forward and sometimes take a step back. As long as you keep moving forward and make progress in your spiritual growth, you're heading in the right direction. Kick back, enjoy life, do your best and leave the rest up to God. God bless you. :angel:

repoland2
9th April 2005, 11:58 PM
(If i can't please god then what's the poin't of living and without god there is no life so what do i do?) Hi this is the quistion that i constantly think about because i am tired of sinning.God does so much for me and all i do is put him down.When i sin i don't feel god with me i feel empty like there is no life in me.Then When i pray and ask for forgivness i feel great.The longer i have a realationship with god the harder the guilt is when i sin.I need to be freed from sin once and for all but i don't know how.Inside me i feel like i am being ripped in half I WANT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT but i can't.Honestly i only see 2 option's in life

1 Be freed from sin or

2 Not serve god,Put him on a hold during this stage i felt EMPTY like i was missing something but atleast i felt no pain,guilt for not listining to god.I feel like i don't deserve god .My soul is crying for help i feel that.And i don't know how to help my self.Please help me answear my quistions please.

My dear friend, I COMPLETELY relate with you on an EVERYDAY basis, and I feel my relationship with the Lord is quite strong.

God bless your soul. The Lord knows your heart, trust in Him, have faith.... and PRAY to God for peace of mind and advancement with your relationship with Him.

I would like to share a VERY humorous scripture with you that is just SO funny, and shares your pain.


[14]We know that the law is spiritual; but I amunspiritual, sold as a slave to sin.
[15]I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate to do, that I do.
[16]and if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good.
[17]As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me.
[18]I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.
[19]For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do-this I keep on doing.
[20]Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.


[21]So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me.
[22]For in my inner being I delight in God's law;
[23]but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members.
[24]WHAT A WRETCHED MAN I AM!

:amen:


Every day is a battle my friend. Everyday the warriors of God, and Satan battle around us, through us, in us and the articles of sin attempt to destroy us. Especially those who love the Lord.

Keep up the fight. May God give you PEACE and GRACE. May He show you the truth behind it all. May He show you that faith is a must, and give you the needed revelations to build up your defenses against the forces of evil. Amen.

PS. You will never be freed from sin until the day you transform into the Lord's arms and are there by His side, keep fighting because it is all worth it in the end. The Lord has promised us this.

FAITH in Him and TRUST is essential!!

godsgirl4ever
26th April 2005, 09:30 AM
(If i can't please god then what's the poin't of living and without god there is no life so what do i do?) Hi this is the quistion that i constantly think about because i am tired of sinning.God does so much for me and all i do is put him down.When i sin i don't feel god with me i feel empty like there is no life in me.Then When i pray and ask for forgivness i feel great.The longer i have a realationship with god the harder the guilt is when i sin.I need to be freed from sin once and for all but i don't know how.Inside me i feel like i am being ripped in half I WANT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT but i can't.Honestly i only see 2 option's in life

1 Be freed from sin or

2 Not serve god,Put him on a hold during this stage i felt EMPTY like i was missing something but atleast i felt no pain,guilt for not listining to god.I feel like i don't deserve god .My soul is crying for help i feel that.And i don't know how to help my self.Please help me answear my quistions please.

your basically battling the devil all of your life.