PDA

View Full Version : Israelites


JOhnPreparer
23rd May 2002, 03:03 AM
Well, I sort out wanna know your opinion on the current Israel's stand as GOd's chosen people... Do you think God still bless that nations??? Since God has said that He will bless thousands generations of Abraham...

The latest news that I catch on the news is that Israel has the most advance technology in war machines. True or not???

Noa
23rd May 2002, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by JOhnPreparer
Well, I sort out wanna know your opinion on the current Israel's stand as GOd's chosen people... Do you think God still bless that nations??? Since God has said that He will bless thousands generations of Abraham...

Yes, normaly speaking Israël had been wipe of the world by now. It is one big miracle they still exist.

The latest news that I catch on the news is that Israel has the most advance technology in war machines. True or not???
True, the atomic wapens are from us and they get police-classes from serveral kind of dutch police-teams and their army and the mossad are the best in the world (America and Europe can learn form the Israë´li´s :D ). I think this is nessecary they protect themseleves very good.

Besides that: don´t forget G´ds promise to them will always stand. Forever and ever.

Pray4Isrel
16th September 2002, 05:08 PM
God never goes back on His promises - this is what makes Him such an awesome God. He will always love and long for the Jewish people to acknowledge Jesus as Messiah. The love for the Jews is written throughout the entire Word.

Having been to Israel a couple of times I can testify that Israel is the most advanced military. They have incredible technology and theiir military is strong.

\o/
16th September 2002, 09:27 PM
The anti-Messiah (Jesus - Yeshua) population of Israel are under a curse.

DT 28:15 However, if you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you...

Read all of the curses in that chapter.

MT 3:12 Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.

MT 21:43 "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. 44 He who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed."

MK 11:12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, "May no one ever eat fruit from you again." And his disciples heard him say it.

Noa
21st September 2002, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by \o/
The anti-Messiah (Jesus - Yeshua) population of Israel are under a curse.

DT 28:15 However, if you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you...

Read all of the curses in that chapter.

MT 3:12 Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.

MT 21:43 "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. 44 He who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed."

MK 11:12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, "May no one ever eat fruit from you again." And his disciples heard him say it.

You do not understand one bit of the Bible. You know why? Your god is not mine G´d! My G´d is a G´d of love and your god is a god of hate!

Noa!

Chili
22nd September 2002, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Pray4Isrel


The love for the Jews is written throughout the entire Word. 



Some people would argue that the above is evidence that the Jews slanted the 'good book' in their favor so they would have followers of Jesus brown-nose them into heaven.  

Chili
22nd September 2002, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Noa
You do not understand one bit of the Bible. You know why? Your god is not mine G´d! My G´d is a G´d of love and your god is a god of hate!

Noa!

. . . and who needs war when you have love!!!!!!!!!!! :P

Pray4Isrel
22nd September 2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Chili
Some people would argue that the above is evidence that the Jews slanted the 'good book' in their favor so they would have followers of Jesus brown-nose them into heaven.  

That's pretty shallow. 

Shall I print this and ask all of my Jewish friends?

 

tericl2
22nd September 2002, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by JOhnPreparer
Well, I sort out wanna know your opinion on the current Israel's stand as GOd's chosen people... Do you think God still bless that nations??? Since God has said that He will bless thousands generations of Abraham...

The latest news that I catch on the news is that Israel has the most advance technology in war machines. True or not???

Yes, they are still God's chosen people and they are still richly blessed. They will continue to be blessed until the very end. God's word leaves no doubt about that, and as Christians, adopted into Abraham, we should love and support the Jews.

Pray4Isrel
24th September 2002, 02:10 PM
If you are a Christian, you need to thank the Jews that you are "grafted in" - after all it is through the Messiah - Jesus - that you have your salvation. Israel is the apple of His eye. His promises never fail. If you are a Christian, it is your job to be Pro-Israel.

Chili
25th September 2002, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Pray4Isrel
. If you are a Christian, it is your job to be Pro-Israel.

What if you are a Catholic? :confused:

Pray4Isrel
25th September 2002, 11:14 AM
That's the same thing. I'm not talking about denominations.

Chili
25th September 2002, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Pray4Isrel
That's the same thing. I'm not talking about denominations.

But I am. We have our own lineage to Adam as declared in Luke 3:38.

Luke is the onmiscient perspective and Matthew is the Judaic point of view. Indeed we are the grafted branches but through Jesus we go right to Adam.

Apart from this we still love the Jews but do not owe any allegiance.

Pray4Isrel
26th September 2002, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Chili
But I am. We have our own lineage to Adam as declared in Luke 3:38.

Luke is the onmiscient perspective and Matthew is the Judaic point of view. Indeed we are the grafted branches but through Jesus we go right to Adam.

Apart from this we still love the Jews but do not owe any allegiance.

Actually, through Adam eventually came Abraham.  Abraham had Isaac - Jew, and Ishmael - Arab.  Tracing lineage back to Adam applies to everyone.  We do owe allegiance.  Clearly outlined from Genesis through Revelation.  They are God's chosen people.   

arab4christ
18th November 2002, 05:52 AM
--God made an everlasting covenant with Israel ... No matter how many times they turn their back on him, he is still with them. :)

--Israel has the most dangerous weapons in the world. And only America and many Arab countries know. And thats it! No one understands Israels capabilites and what secret weapons they have.

God bless

a4c

Pray4Isrel
18th November 2002, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by arab4christ
--God made an everlasting covenant with Israel ... No matter how many times they turn their back on him, he is still with them. :)

--Israel has the most dangerous weapons in the world. And only America and many Arab countries know. And thats it! No one understands Israels capabilites and what secret weapons they have.

God bless

a4c

This is true.

I would so love to speak with you about your unique perspective on Israel and the Jewish people.  I mean no offense but I have not met any arabs here on this board and would be interested in your outlook on Israel.

arab4christ
18th November 2002, 09:44 PM
Hello Pray4Israel.

Yes I understand what you mean :) If there is a chat somewhere, I would be glad to speak with you...But I hope to see more great posts on Israel and you and I in them :)
and btw just so you know, even Muslim Arabs know of Israels greatness ;) Buts its their religion which makes them the way they are ... They know better, but they are just trying to follow their religion. :(

God bless

a4c

Pray4Isrel
18th November 2002, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by arab4christ
Hello Pray4Israel.

Yes I understand what you mean :) If there is a chat somewhere, I would be glad to speak with you...But I hope to see more great posts on Israel and you and I in them :)
and btw just so you know, even Muslim Arabs know of Israels greatness ;) Buts its their religion which makes them the way they are ... They know better, but they are just trying to follow their religion. :(

God bless

a4c

You are a true blessing and I am thankful for your knowledge of the truth of God!  :clap:

How encouraging!

Pray4Isrel
18th November 2002, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Chili
But I am. We have our own lineage to Adam as declared in Luke 3:38.

Luke is the onmiscient perspective and Matthew is the Judaic point of view. Indeed we are the grafted branches but through Jesus we go right to Adam.

Apart from this we still love the Jews but do not owe any allegiance.

Reading the entirety of the Bible, we owe allegiance because of the fact that we are grafted in.  God does not withdraw or make null His covenants.  His chosen people are the Jews - we just happen to be grafted in because of Yeshua.

 

BTW, sorry it took me so long to respond!