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MyLittleWonders
1st April 2005, 02:35 AM
The more I learn and the more HaShem guides me, I am more and more convinced that there was never supposed to be a "christian" church - gentile or not. And that is such a peaceful feeling to have. Suddenly God makes sense ... suddenly the "OT" makes sense ... suddenly what it means to "walk as He walked" makes TOTAL sense. Now that the scales have been removed from my eyes - the veil has been lifted - I can see that God didn't want us gentiles to take His Word and turn it into a whole new religion, one that looks absolutely nothing like the faith He built to begin with. To me, attaching myself to the Jewish Messiah, then I have also attached myself to the Jewish people and her faith. I just wish it wasn't so hard to explain all this to people who don't see it. (Of course, I know why it's so hard ... because they don't see it ... like our conversations with our pastor ... .) Yet another reason I am thankful for this board because despite some of our smaller differences, I feel we are at least on the same page (most the time) on the big things! :)
Tishri1
2nd April 2005, 02:07 AM
That's how I feel too, I think that the father is drawing us all back together like a lost flock, scattered around the world :wave: and he is going out to find us and bring us all back into the sheepfold :groupray: ....and sheep are kinda "blind" like that too, they can get lost very easily.
MyZz
2nd April 2005, 09:17 AM
I totally agree with all your post,nowhere did Yeshua say to start a new religion,he was the culmination of all that had been written about him in the scccriptures,what sense does it make for the sheep to now break away from the fold.
I thank G-D for this forum and for all my brothers and sisters on it..may we all contnue to fellowship and learn together ...
shabbat shalom everyone
visionary
2nd April 2005, 09:18 AM
There is no two ways about it, God is in this movement "towards the grafting" and many can say that it was not any particular man that lead them, but God himself who has lead His people and taken off the blinders and strange thing happens, what would have been considered impossible is happening. Just like Celine Dion posted, a congregation is going to start keeping, and have no clue how. Talk about a turning of the heart towards God. Amazing.... even we who have turned can hardly belive that whole congregations are willing to do that. This is the Lord's movement. IT will come to pass.
doresilence
2nd April 2005, 04:31 PM
AMEN SISTER!
i am always so frustrated when i think about the way modern christians have virtually erased the jewish history of a jewish religion
G-d bless you!
Henaynei
2nd April 2005, 05:25 PM
AMEN SISTER!
i am always so frustrated when i think about the way modern christians have virtually erased the jewish history of a jewish religion
G-d bless you!actually, it is not "modern christians", but ancient Christianity - Judaism was outlawed nearly 1800 years ago - moderan christianity is only perpetuating what has been handed down to them from their ancestors....
and actually - *modern* christanity is making great strides toward a real embrace with the Jewish history of their faith :)
beej7
2nd April 2005, 08:57 PM
'Bout time, too!!
jgonz
3rd April 2005, 01:10 AM
I am more and more convinced that there was never supposed to be a "christian" church - gentile or not. And that is such a peaceful feeling to have
Another one in complete agreement! It IS a peaceful feeling to "get it"! :thumbsup:
MyLittleWonders
3rd April 2005, 01:22 AM
You know, it finally makes so much sense to me to know what God's will is! You know, so many people say we are only under two commands - to love God with all our heart ... and to love our neighbors as ourselves. Well, my question back is, How do you love God with all your heart? They say by doing His will. So, I say, How do you know what His will is? They never have a clear answer ... but to me, it's spelled out so clearly in the OT what His will is!
Mikhail
3rd April 2005, 02:01 AM
The more I learn and the more HaShem guides me, I am more and more convinced that there was never supposed to be a "christian" church - gentile or not. And that is such a peaceful feeling to have. Suddenly God makes sense ... suddenly the "OT" makes sense ... suddenly what it means to "walk as He walked" makes TOTAL sense. Now that the scales have been removed from my eyes - the veil has been lifted - I can see that God didn't want us gentiles to take His Word and turn it into a whole new religion, one that looks absolutely nothing like the faith He built to begin with. To me, attaching myself to the Jewish Messiah, then I have also attached myself to the Jewish people and her faith. I just wish it wasn't so hard to explain all this to people who don't see it. (Of course, I know why it's so hard ... because they don't see it ... like our conversations with our pastor ... .) Yet another reason I am thankful for this board because despite some of our smaller differences, I feel we are at least on the same page (most the time) on the big things! :)
:thumbsup: :amen:
After 18 Months in a Messianic Congregation I agree wholeheartedly the problem is the congregation I am in are all still playing church or hebrew christians. I have recently started telling others that I no longer call myself christian, but regard myself as part of Messianic Judaism.
Can't wait for my my tzitzit to arrive in the mail.;)
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