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Max__
1st April 2005, 12:00 AM
Hi There is the bible which the same people read but then why do the have diffrent beliefs (EXAMPLE)
Christians,Sevent Day Adventist,Cathlic,Pentocostel,Baptist,Luthran...etc
ONE GOD BUT DIFFRENT BELIEFS
New_Wineskin
1st April 2005, 06:27 AM
Hi There is the bible which the same people read but then why do the have diffrent beliefs (EXAMPLE)
Christians,Sevent Day Adventist,Cathlic,Pentocostel,Baptist,Luthran...etc
ONE GOD BUT DIFFRENT BELIEFS
People look at any set of writings differently . When people look at a large set of writings and attempt to make them all fit together , all sorts of things could come about .
When there was one basic set of beliefs , the leaders were rather cruel dictators . So , I like it as is . :)
sandman
2nd April 2005, 01:38 AM
I agree with the WHY question you ask
The reason for many different beliefs is as New_Wineskin stated. Basically people interpret the Bible rather then allowing the Bible interpret itself; there are specific keys and principles to doing just that, and sometimes it is just a matter of reading what is written. There are some variables to take into account, such as idioms, orientalisms, culture, and figures of speech, because we must always keep in mind this is an eastern book.
Many problems arise when people look to confirm what they believe rather then believe what is confirmed. And then there is tradition, which is good when it lines up with the written Word, but when it is contrary to the Word and still held in higher regard …… it goes back to people trying to confirm what they believe.
Finally I would add this: how we view the Word makes a big difference, is it God inspired from Genesis to Revelation (which I believe it is) or are some areas written by the will of man.
My belief is that, if the Word of God can be broken at any one point it cannot be trusted at any point; one of those “chain is only as strong a it’s weakest link” things. The more you scrutinize the written Word the more intricate it becomes …..it cannot be broken.
Psalm40
2nd April 2005, 04:30 PM
So you're all confident that your individual non-denominational churches are the ones that have the right interpretation over everyone else? How so? How can you be sure?
Maybe one of the denominations you don't want to be part of or the Catholic Church (the one who decided what was Scripture to begin with) is correct? Or maybe no one is getting it right? Is that what Christ promised? What is the pillar and foundation of truth?
Psalm40
2nd April 2005, 04:32 PM
When there was one basic set of beliefs , the leaders were rather cruel dictators . So , I like it as is . :)
Can you cite a specific example? Don't you think that the smaller churches with power-hungry, manipulative pastors (many conflicting, contradictory beliefs/doctrines) are not even more so dangerous?
Max__
2nd April 2005, 04:55 PM
So you're all confident that your individual non-denominational churches are the ones that have the right interpretation over everyone else? How so? How can you be sure?
Maybe one of the denominations you don't want to be part of or the Catholic Church (the one who decided what was Scripture to begin with) is correct? Or maybe no one is getting it right? Is that what Christ promised? What is the pillar and foundation of truth?
no i am not confident in anything and that is why i am asking
sandman
2nd April 2005, 06:11 PM
My confidence resides in the truths of the written Word not in denominations, not in people, not in tradition. Like I stated if tradition agrees with that which is written … great! If it disagrees, contradicts, or doesn’t fall in line with biblical truths or the written Word, then it doesn’t matter what religion, denomination, or sect it is, I go with the Word of God; that is my barometer for truth.
Anybody can make the Word say what they want to believe by selective interpretation which is why I made the statement that we must allow the Bible to interpret itself …..which it does. We don’t have problems when we read sports articles or other things written in newspapers or magazines because we read what is written in the context of the writing. If the writer is good the article will provide all the necessary information that will allow each of us to walk away with a likeminded understanding of what was written; it’s to bad we don’t give the same courtesy to the Bible.
New_Wineskin
2nd April 2005, 06:54 PM
Edited to : I have no desire to sidetrack the thread to debate Catholics in nondenominational forum .
New_Wineskin
2nd April 2005, 06:57 PM
Edited to : same as above .
Col
5th April 2005, 08:58 AM
Hi There is the bible which the same people read but then why do the have diffrent beliefs (EXAMPLE)
Christians,Sevent Day Adventist,Cathlic,Pentocostel,Baptist,Luthran...etc
ONE GOD BUT DIFFRENT BELIEFS
With the risk of over generalising, you could look at it like Football;
One game, one set of rules, plenty of teams, but all with the same aim and purpose.
We all like to barrack for our own teams and even tend to dislike some teams, and may even feel that there are teams which tend to play outside the rules or bend them a little, however, we all love the "game" and that is what unites us, irrespective of how we may tend to interpret the rules at times.
Whoever Is Not Against Us Is for Us
Mark 9:38-41
38“Teacher,” said John, “we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”
39“Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40for whoever is not against us is for us. 41I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose his reward
gtsecc
6th April 2005, 12:07 PM
The Bible is a Tradition.
9-iron
6th April 2005, 01:28 PM
So you're all confident that your individual non-denominational churches are the ones that have the right interpretation over everyone else? How so? How can you be sure?
I have no confidence in relying on any pastor, demonination, church, etc. to provide me with Biblical truth. The only one truty I cling to is Christ is my saviour and my mediator to God.
All else is secondary. So I don't hold or cling to tightly to anything else. Basically everything I encounter and deal with in life is dealt with on the faith that Christ is my substance.
To answer the OP, I think people are influence by bias thoughts and opinion that bombard them from childhood. Why do some people drive Chevy trucks and other Fords. Chevy drivers do so because a Chevy commerical or some other influenced reached them. That or their parents were Chevy drivers.
As to how it all got started, I would suppose man natural tendancy to always tinker with something in hopes to make it better.
skilltroks
8th April 2005, 01:36 AM
We all learn from different people. Also, I can't say I am CRC that would mean I am only sticking to CRC. And basically what 9-iron said. :P
MsSnow
8th April 2005, 12:08 PM
You read your Bible, you pray and ask God to guide you to what is right, you listen and you learn. I believe that what God tells ME in my heart is what is right. That is why I don't have one set religion. My church is in nature where I can mediate, read my Bible and listen and learn from God. I also get my fellowship by talking to others and going to forums like these.:clap:
Izzy23
8th April 2005, 05:05 PM
We need The Guidance of The Holy Spirit. When man translates they are using their own limited knowledge but God's Wisdom comes from Above.
Peace
Izzy
julian the apostate
8th April 2005, 07:16 PM
or it could be:
denominations look at different things in the same way
when in actual fact christians have the freedom from Christ to look at the same things in different ways
gtsecc
8th April 2005, 10:10 PM
The Bible is the Church's interpretation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I think leaving it at that might seem a bit unusual to folks who have not thought about it that way before, so I will try to explain.
Jesus was real.
No one close to him kept a journal or diary.
They also seemed to think the end was near.
They spread the good news all over the world rather quickly.
Then folks all over started writing down these stories.
Then the Church prayed to be guided to which stories were true and conveyed the Gospel the best.
The stories considered the best and most authentic were cannized.
I am not saying there are erros. I am saying we must keep the context in mind and then we can find a fuller understanding of Christ Jesus.
WesWoodell
10th April 2005, 02:07 AM
Hi There is the bible which the same people read but then why do the have diffrent beliefs (EXAMPLE)
Christians,Sevent Day Adventist,Cathlic,Pentocostel,Baptist,Luthran...etc
ONE GOD BUT DIFFRENT BELIEFS
Acts 20:29-30
29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.
(NIV)
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
(NIV)
WarrenG
11th April 2005, 10:43 AM
The Bible is a Tradition.
I totally disagree! The Bible clearly says: 'in the beginning there was the Word (Bible) and the word was with God and the word was God'. God IS the Bible- the Bible IS God. God and the Bible is the basis of all truth. The Bible is not tradition
WarrenG
11th April 2005, 10:44 AM
I have no confidence in relying on any pastor, demonination, church, etc. to provide me with Biblical truth. The only one truty I cling to is Christ is my saviour and my mediator to God.
All else is secondary. So I don't hold or cling to tightly to anything else. Basically everything I encounter and deal with in life is dealt with on the faith that Christ is my substance.
To answer the OP, I think people are influence by bias thoughts and opinion that bombard them from childhood. Why do some people drive Chevy trucks and other Fords. Chevy drivers do so because a Chevy commerical or some other influenced reached them. That or their parents were Chevy drivers.
As to how it all got started, I would suppose man natural tendancy to always tinker with something in hopes to make it better.
Amen brother!
St.Augustine
11th April 2005, 01:14 PM
Hi There is the bible which the same people read but then why do the have diffrent beliefs (EXAMPLE)
Christians,Sevent Day Adventist,Cathlic,Pentocostel,Baptist,Luthran...etc
ONE GOD BUT DIFFRENT BELIEFS
Read Matthew 13 about the Tares amongst the Wheat. :)
gtsecc
11th April 2005, 01:57 PM
I totally disagree! The Bible clearly says: 'in the beginning there was the Word (Bible) and the word was with God and the word was God'. God IS the Bible- the Bible IS God. God and the Bible is the basis of all truth. The Bible is not tradition
The Word was Christ.
The bible say that the Church contains all the truth.
Jim Woodell
11th April 2005, 02:39 PM
Hi There is the bible which the same people read but then why do the have diffrent beliefs (EXAMPLE)
Christians,Sevent Day Adventist,Cathlic,Pentocostel,Baptist,Luthran...etc
ONE GOD BUT DIFFRENT BELIEFS
What you are asking is a problem that Paul was addressing in 1 Cor. 1. The reasons for division, as stated by Paul, are found in 1 Cor. 1:11-12. It is interesting that he placed some who said, "I follow Christ," right in there with those who said, "I follow Paul!" There is such a thing as a "sectarian spirit." We possess that spirit when we see ourselves as having it all together and others through the eye of judgment.
It is also true that some get their religion by "generation" rather than "regeneration." It is inherited from parents and grandparents rather than personal.
Our challenge is to let God do HIS work in us and through us. His Word, the Bible, is the seed of the kingdom (Luke 8:4-8). Also read Phil. 2:12-13 along with John 7:17.
God bless!:thumbsup:
Serving4Christ
11th April 2005, 02:43 PM
Hi There is the bible which the same people read but then why do the have diffrent beliefs (EXAMPLE)
Christians,Sevent Day Adventist,Cathlic,Pentocostel,Baptist,Luthran...etc
ONE GOD BUT DIFFRENT BELIEFS
interpretation/translation
Amongst the Flock
12th April 2005, 12:46 AM
Everybody has an opinion and everybody has personal pride. Everyone at some point in their walk wants to think they are right and everyone else is wrong. I have made this mistake many times and that is when we realize that only Jesus is always right.
we may all worship on different mountains but if we all confess with our mouth that Jesus is savior and believe in our hearts that God raised him from the dead then we will be saved.
We need to unite and do our best not to create strife. The devil or the father of Lies is behind all the strife and we need to submit to God, resist the devil, and then he will flee. We need to work out our differences and not let it affect our friendship as now we are all family.
Good luck.
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