St. Euphrosynos Taverna and Ouzeri (3)

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[Philip]

Woo Hoo! First post in the new thread.

:sorry: Ummm, I wish I had something profound to say.

[33ad]

Well, I'm number 3!

Welcome back Matrona!!

I'm fasting zero food today, because I want to attend Pre-Sanctified tonight. Our Parish holds them Tuesdays and Thursday evenings. With a lot of prayer, I'll get by.

I'm praying for all of you, and BTW:-

Blessed St Patrick's Day. St Patrick, pray for us!!

That was just for you Suzannah.;)

Kolya

[Michael the Iconographer]

Hey Kolya!

Happy St. Padraig's Day, Suz!

[33ad]

Hi Misha!

My sympathy with the broken heart!

Kolya

[Michael the Iconographer]

Hi Misha!

My sympathy with the broken heart!

Kolya

Thank you Kolya. If I survived one about a year ago, I can survive this one as well. Thank you for your continued prayers.

[33ad]

I'm fasting zero food today, because I want to attend Pre-Sanctified tonight. Our Parish holds them Tuesdays and Thursday evenings. With a lot of prayer, I'll get by.


Someone on CF (Not Orthodox) PM 'd me this just now:

Matthew 5:6 (The Message)

"You're blessed when you've worked up a good appetite for God. He's food and drink in the best meal you'll ever eat".


Thank you to the lurkers out there, and God bless you too.

Kolya

[ExOrienteLux]

HEY!!!

Why's Suz the only one getting wished Happy St. Padraig's day?! There're other proud Celts on TAW, too! I'm also looking forward to next 1 Feb, 1 March, 16 May, 26 May, and 9 June. If anyone's wondering why those particular days, they're the commemorations of the Ss. Brigid of Kildare, David of Wales, Brendan the Navigator, Augustine of Canterbury, and Columba of Iona.

Anyway, Happy St. Padraig's Day, all!

[ExOrienteLux]

While we're speaking about Christianity in the Isles, here's a story I simply love about St. Gregory of Rome:

'While the Saint was yet a monk, he happened upon a slave trader selling three young boys in a Roman marketplace.

He exclaimed, "Alas! Alas! That such bright young faces should be the slave of an inward darkness. So beautiful are they and yet their minds are sick and without God's grace." Going to the trader, he asked from which nation they came.

"They are Angles," answered the man.

"Yes, indeed," the Saint replied, "they have the appearance of angels and they should be co-heirs of the angels in Heaven. From what province do they hail?"

"From Deira," said the slave trader, speaking about what is now Northumberland.

"From Deira?" answered the Saint. "Then indeed they should be saved from God's wrath and called to the dignity of Christ. Who is their King?"

"Aella."

"Then," said Gregory, "must Alleluia be sung in Aella's land."'

Holy Saints of England, Ireland, Scotland, and Wales, pray for us sinners!

[33ad]

HEY!!!

I'm also looking forward to next 1 Feb, 1 March, 16 May, 26 May, and 9 June. If anyone's wondering why those particular days, they're the commemorations of the Ss. Brigid of Kildare, David of Wales, Brendan the Navigator, Augustine of Canterbury, and Columba of Iona.


I just took a book out of the church library on Sunday on the 'Lives of the Celtic Saints'. Very interresting reading.

And Happy St. Paddy's day te all of ye!:clap:

Kolya

[Michael the Iconographer]

HEY!!!

Why's Suz the only one getting wished Happy St. Padraig's day?! There're other proud Celts on TAW, too! I'm also looking forward to next 1 Feb, 1 March, 16 May, 26 May, and 9 June. If anyone's wondering why those particular days, they're the commemorations of the Ss. Brigid of Kildare, David of Wales, Brendan the Navigator, Augustine of Canterbury, and Columba of Iona.

Anyway, Happy St. Padraig's Day, all!

You should have seen Phil/Josh drooling when I told him that I plan to (when I get arround to it) write a Celtic Style Icon of St. Padraig!

[Prawnik]

I wonder what Jack Chick has to say about St. Patrick's Day...

[countrymouse33ad]

I wonder what Jack Chick has to say about St. Patrick's Day...

LOL, don't give him any ideas.

Happy St. Patrick's everyone!!! :clap: from snowy Mooresville! (School is out; I haven't awakened Chris yet).

[Khaleas]

From one thing to another... did anything come out of the change of our faith icon???

Argh, I need to start packing... I'm the worst at getting going in the morning. :yawn:

[PandaBear]

Woo Hoo! First post in the new thread.

:sorry: Ummm, I wish I had something profound to say.

Yeah, I wish you had too!

Actually you did. You said: "something profound to say." So it worked out okay! ;)

Good morning everyone!

PB

[33ad]

From one thing to another... did anything come out of the change of our faith icon???


I was wondering the same thing.:confused:

Kolya

[PandaBear]

I don't want to get all political, but does anyone recommend a reliable and possibly objective (I know, good luck) "truth about St. Patrick" type of web site or book? I only ask because I have been wondering exactly how he managed to convert an entire nation to Christianity. Not looking for scandal, just objective history.

And maybe St. Patrick is just one fellow we'll never know much beyond legend...that was an awful long time ago, yes?

Thanks in advance! And happy St. Patrick's Day to those celebrating! :wave:

PB

[Khaleas]

Thanks in advance! And happy St. Patrick's Day to those celebrating! :wave:

PB

My advisor is the chair of the Irish studies program but he already left for spring break so I hope someone else can help you out.

Yup, I'm celebrating... I'm having green.... lettuce and green.... beans.

[33ad]

Well, I'm off to Pre-Sanctified. Hope to see you all tomorrow.

Kolya

[Khaleas]

Well, I'm off to Pre-Sanctified. Hope to see you all tomorrow.

Kolya

Have a good rest of the day!!! Tomorrow I'll be in the same time zone!!! :clap:

[countrymouse33ad]

You should have seen Phil/Josh drooling when I told him that I plan to (when I get arround to it) write a Celtic Style Icon of St. Padraig!

When you do, I want a copy! :clap:

[Momzilla]

:wave: Good morning everyone!

[Matrona]

Good morning Momz!

[countrymouse33ad]

There are currently 31 guests viewing the TAW forum! Welcome, guests!

[Verushka]

:( I finally managed do ged up from dhe bed.. for few minutes.. I have influenza. Terrible fever.. And I should go and meet my priest overtomorrow to make a confession.. I need a miracle recovering!!
:crosseo:

[Matrona]

Please pray for my friend Mary and her nephew David.... David has cancer and has no more than two weeks to live, and Mary is hoping that David will accept Jesus before he dies. He seems interested, so I am hopeful. They have a pastor from a Calvary Chapel talking to him.

[The Virginian]

My wife's forefathers were from Scotland, by the river Dee. I would greatly love to have a Celtic Cross for an avitar. I don't have a scanner to create my own. (LARGE HINT)



"...walk humbly with thy God"

[RobNJ]

Please pray for my friend Mary and her nephew David.... David has cancer and has no more than two weeks to live, and Mary is hoping that David will accept Jesus before he dies. He seems interested, so I am hopeful. They have a pastor from a Calvary Chapel talking to him.

Prayers Going Up!!
:prayer::prayer::prayer:

[Khaleas]

:( I finally managed do ged up from dhe bed.. for few minutes.. I have influenza. Terrible fever.. And I should go and meet my priest overtomorrow to make a confession.. I need a miracle recovering!!
:crosseo:


I hope you feel better soon! I think we've all been sick here at TAW in the past few weeks.

I was supposed to get out of here last night but that wasn't going to happen. I was lucky because my contact at Icelandair bent over backwards to switch my flight. I need to write her supervisor a very nice letter. So tonight it's off for me and in an upgrade to business class :cool: it should be a nice flight. I hope they can whip up something decent for a vegetarian meal but I'm gonna bring some granola bars just in case (for some reason I think lenten 'suffering' (with lack for a better word) and suffering with plane food have very little in common).

Matrona! I'll be praying for Mary and David! :crosseo:

[Stephanida]

I have a question and I hope someone can answer. What is the best way to stop hating some one. There is a man in my life whom I am in the middle of a messy court battle with. I hate him so much it makes me sick that I am so horrible. Please if you know any prayers relating to hatred let me know. Until then please pray for the unworthy stephanie.

[Matrona]

Thanks, Khaleas!

[Michael the Iconographer]

Matrona, Mary and David are in my prayers as well as my other two friends, and of course you are as well.

[Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta]

I have a question and I hope someone can answer. What is the best way to stop hating some one. There is a man in my life whom I am in the middle of a messy court battle with. I hate him so much it makes me sick that I am so horrible. Please if you know any prayers relating to hatred let me know. Until then please pray for the unworthy stephanie.

Praying for you, Stephanie.:hug: :crosseo: Right now is the perfect time to deal with our sins and strive to forgive as God forgives.

[Matrona]

I have a question and I hope someone can answer. What is the best way to stop hating some one. There is a man in my life whom I am in the middle of a messy court battle with. I hate him so much it makes me sick that I am so horrible. Please if you know any prayers relating to hatred let me know. Until then please pray for the unworthy stephanie.

Stephanida,

:hug:

My priest gave a very touching homily on Forgiveness Sunday (last Sunday). Father explained that forgiveness, doesn't mean you have to excuse the wrong someone committed against you. You don't have to justify it or absolve it--they will still be guilty of the sin they committed against you. Forgiveness, is giving up vengeance to God, letting go, and moving on. It would probably be better if you talked to a priest about this, but in the meantime, you might find it helpful to read about a lady named Corrie Ten Boom. She was a Dutch Christian who sheltered Jews during the Holocaust, and she was sent to Ravensbruck concentration camp. Especially helpful for you, I think, would be the anecdote she told about, after being released, running into one of the guards who had been particularly cruel, and how she dealt with the encounter.

[Momzilla]

Question: What happens when a beautiful, spring-like weekend is followed by a week of bitter cold and rain?

Answer: Kirsten gets a new hairstyle! I'm going from shoulder-length and straight to ear length and curly. doot doot!

[Stephanida]

Thank you Matrona and Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta.

[Alexis OCA]

I have a question and I hope someone can answer. What is the best way to stop hating some one. There is a man in my life whom I am in the middle of a messy court battle with. I hate him so much it makes me sick that I am so horrible. Please if you know any prayers relating to hatred let me know. Until then please pray for the unworthy stephanie.

First, be assured of my prayers for you. Secondly, sometimes (and I am not saying this is your case) hating just feels so good, it takes the edge off us when we feel victimimized and there is nothing else we can do. That being said, we have to to realize that hate in its essence is self-destructive, it is the the gift that keeps on giving as it eats us alive (demonic wouldn't you say?). So we have to realize that as children of a God who sincerely desires our well being, we must take care of our physical and mental health and let the hate go, little by little as best you can...knowing, in the long run, it is best for you, best for your family, your worship community, and the world. That is a gift (and it may entail much work) you can give to yourself AND to God.

God bless you.

[Alexis OCA]

Question: What happens when a beautiful, spring-like weekend is followed by a week of bitter cold and rain?

Answer: Kirsten gets a new hairstyle! I'm going from shoulder-length and straight to ear length and curly. doot doot!

My answer: Doug (GregChant) stays on the internet and gets a Russian name!

Warm regards,
Grigoriy (Grisha):)

PS. Do we get pics of that new hairstyle?????

[Matrona]

Question: What happens when a beautiful, spring-like weekend is followed by a week of bitter cold and rain?

Answer: Kirsten gets a new hairstyle! I'm going from shoulder-length and straight to ear length and curly. doot doot!

Cool!

I wish I could get my hair to go straight... I hate having natural curls. I keep my hair tied back almost all the time because of it.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Cool!

I wish I could get my hair to go straight... I hate having natural curls. I keep my hair tied back almost all the time because of it.

Not to embarass you Matrona, but you may hate that your hair is naturally curly, but it is quite pretty!

[Khaleas]

Cool!

I wish I could get my hair to go straight... I hate having natural curls. I keep my hair tied back almost all the time because of it.

Matrona, I'll share. I have stick straight hair, you can give me some curls! My hairdresser has given up on trying to turn it under when he dries my hair... it doesn't go anywhere without some 'powertools'.

[Greg the byzantine]

hahahahah! :D Why is it that people want what they don't have!
I have two older sisters and one of them has straight hair and the other one has curly hair, and they always say they want to switch because the one with curly wants straight, and the one with straight wants curly.

[Stephanida]

Thanks for all you answers and Greg that is a very true answer minus the religious aspect that is what my therapist told me. Thank you.

[ExOrienteLux]

I don't want to get all political, but does anyone recommend a reliable and possibly objective (I know, good luck) "truth about St. Patrick" type of web site or book? I only ask because I have been wondering exactly how he managed to convert an entire nation to Christianity. Not looking for scandal, just objective history.

Well, to be truthful, St. Patrick wasn't the only missionary in Ireland. He was the greatest of those in the north of the isle, but there were several missionaries working in Leinster in the southeast before he arrived in Ulster.

I've picked up a book at HalfPriceBooks titled Celtic Saints: Passionate Wanderers by Elizabeth Rees, a Roman nun. It's actually a very interesting read, and it touches on the Celtic church in all of its incarnations, be they in Erin, Scotland, Wales, England, Man, or elsewhere. The ISBN's 0-500-01989-4, if you want to hunt for it.

Here's some quotes from the book about the status of Christianity in Eire before Padraig:

We know of five missionaries who worked in southeast Ireland in the early fifth century before the arrival of Patrick: Ciarán of Saigir, Ibar and his nephew Abbán, Ailbe of Munster and his friend Déclán of Ardmore. [p. 24]

Palladius was the first bishop to be sent from Rome to Ireland [in 431].... Palladius came to Ireland, accompanied by three bishops from Gaul, Secundinus, Auxilius and Iserninus. According to tradition, Palladius lander near Arklow in Wicklow; his three fellow bishops have dedications in the sorrounding area, each near a tribal stronghold. [T]heir monasteries [were] at Dunslaughlin (meaning 'domhnach of Seachnal' or church of Secundinus), Killossy ('cell of Auxilius') and Aghado, which means 'field of the two yews' and was evidently selected for a church because it was already a holy place. [pp. 26, 27]

Patrick lived from c. 390 - c. 461 and worked in the north of Ireland, with his base at Armagh in Ulster.

Just a wee bit o' info on Celtic missions.

And, yes, I was drooling like one of Pavlov's dogs when Mike said he intends on writing a Celtic-style icon of St. Padraig. I want one.

Later, everyone. Got to get ready for Canon.

+IC XC NIKA+
Phillip

[Photini]

Hello friends. :)

[Michael the Iconographer]

Hi all!

[Matrona]

Hey Photini!

[Michael the Iconographer]

LOL! I got my siggy back! I finally got arround to recreating it!

[Photini]

Hey Photini!
Hey girl!

[Photini]

Hi all!
Hi Michael. How was your day?

[Photini]

I've concluded that SOMETHING is trying to mess with me. This morning as I dropped off the kids at daycare, one of them hit the locks on the doors and I was locked out of my car. (I have automatic locks, so you hit one, and they all lock.) When someone came to help me....he took one look at the back door and discovered that that ONE door was unlocked. I swear it was locked. I felt like such an idiot.

[Vasya Davidovich]

I've concluded that SOMETHING is trying to mess with me. This morning as I dropped off the kids at daycare, one of them hit the locks on the doors and I was locked out of my car. (I have automatic locks, so you hit one, and they all lock.) When someone came to help me....he took one look at the back door and discovered that that ONE door was unlocked. I swear it was locked. I felt like such an idiot.
What can one say? 'Tis Lent.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Hi Michael. How was your day?

My day was a waste. I did laundry and folded it, did my dishes, went in to work for 2 hours and the rest of the day slept or vegged. I wanted to paint today, but didn't get arround to doing any of that. UGH!

[Matrona]

What can one say? 'Tis Lent.

My parish priest has had car trouble every single Lent for several years. He has a newer car now, so I hope this year will break with tradition! Either that, or I hope the car trouble will strike his 13-year-old car instead of his new one.

[Vasya Davidovich]

My parish priest has had car trouble every single Lent for several years. He has a newer car now, so I hope this year will break with tradition! Either that, or I hope the car trouble will strike his 13-year-old car instead of his new one.
LOL
"The car breaks with tradition."
Or does it break by tradition?

[Photini]

hahahahah! :D Why is it that people want what they don't have!
I have two older sisters and one of them has straight hair and the other one has curly hair, and they always say they want to switch because the one with curly wants straight, and the one with straight wants curly.
The same thing with me and my sister. She has curly hair...and mine is well...half and half. We want each other's hair.

[Photini]

LOL
"The car breaks with tradition."
Or does it break by tradition?
LOL :)

[Matrona]

LOL
"The car breaks with tradition."
Or does it break by tradition?

:D Good catch!

[Photini]

Awesome sig Matrona. :)

[Matrona]

Awesome sig Matrona. :)

Thank you, Photini!

I thought it was time for a change, at least a temporary one.

[Matrona]

By the way, in case anyone is wondering, my little rabbits are doing well. Anastasia is still a haughty girl, and Alexei is still a sweet boy. But I love them both. :)

[PandaBear]

Well, to be truthful, St. Patrick wasn't the only missionary in Ireland. [...]

+IC XC NIKA+
Phillip

Thank you Phillip for the background. I'm pretty undereducated on Irish history, to be honest. In terms of my own experience, the best I can tell you is I really dig the album Irish Heartbeat by The Cheiftains/Van Morrison!

I will look up that book too...thanks!

PB

[PandaBear]

My day was a waste. I did laundry and folded it, did my dishes,

In my days, the bolded part alone would be successful!

PB

[PandaBear]

Speaking of laundry, I need to throw a load in the dryer from the washer (which has sat there for a good 24 hours, and get ready for sleeping. We had copies of the Canon tonight so we could read along...that helped me a lot. I'm not good at following along just aurally...my mind drifts all over the place. I truly felt some of the sorrow evident in the writing. Unfortunately, I had trouble following along with the story of St. Mary of Egypt, so I should read it again on my own.

I'm almost asleep. I think laundry will need to wait until tomorrow. I can't believe it's less than 24 hours and this thread has over 60 posts already!

Peace and all good,
Weak and sinful PandaBear

[Michael the Iconographer]

In my days, the bolded part alone would be successful!

PB

LOL! The day would have been successful if I had been able to paint for about 3-4 hours!

[33ad]

Good Friday to all.:wave:

Misha, that's a much better motto;)


Well, on with the day. 3 day weekend now and 4 day Latin easter next week. WOW!

Praying for all of you.

In IC XC

Kolya

[Matrona]

TAW had its second birthday while I was gone!

http://www.christianforums.com/t36759-new-forum-eastern-orthodox-and-coptic-christianity.html

I hope it didn't pass unrecognized! :)

[Michael the Iconographer]

Misha, that's a much better motto;)



I am trying to be positive, but it is hard! God bless you my friend!

[Khaleas]

Howdy everyone!!!


Just wanted to send a :wave: from Iceland!! It´s raining and icky.
I slept like a log which is unusual so that´s always good!

Well, I'm off for the next leg! Hold down the fort! :D

Jennie

[Khaleas]

And another :wave: from Stockholm, Sweden!!


Again, snoozed like a little pig. Unusual but good!


Take care everyone!

[Verushka]

Welcome to Helsinki Jennie!!! It's so beautiful here, lots of snow and sunshine!! :cool:

[33ad]

Doesn't look like you're going to have jet-lag Jennie;)


Welcome to GMT+2 time zone! I've just finished lunch, and it's time for the short shift before home time. (And a LOOONG Weekend)

Look after yourself now. I hope the airline food wasn't too bad.

Kolya

[prodromos]

WOW I disappear for a few days and you go and change taverna on me again!

Hi everyone, if I stick to my guns you shouldn't be seeing anything of me again until Pascha as I've been spending way too much time on the forums and Lent seems like a good time to make a break. I'm only posting today because I've been away from the computer since Saturday so I'm giving myself a day's grace :P

I've actually just come back from spending three days on Mount Athos. I accompanied Nektarios from OC.net on his way to the monastery of Philotheou, and after two days there I walked four and a half hours to the monastery of Simonopetra on the other side of the peninsular. The monks at Philotheou had suggested I take the minibus to Karyes and from there the bus to Dafni and walk from there, but I wanted to walk. A third of the way there I was regretting not heeding their advice as there was still half a metre of snow covering the roads up over the ridge which made the walking absolutely exhausting. I had to take a break every fifteen steps or so and wait for my pulse rate to slow down a bit. I also added about half a hour to my walking time by missing where the path to the monastery left the road. Unfortunately it was all downhill from there so when I finally figured I had missed the turn it was all uphill until I found the path. All in all it was wonderful. Roughly seven to eight hours are spent in church each day with Liturgy, the Hours and Vespers. I met some lovely monks including a German, Father Yelasios (his name means "laughing" or "joyful", very aptly named) and another, Father Isidore who was born blind and became a monk at the age of forty, plus I was able to venerate the incorrupt right hand of St John Chrysostom and the right hand of St Mary Magdalen which is not only still soft and supple, but maintains body temperature!

On that note I wish you all a blessed Lent and joyous Pascha. The next time we meet we will be shouting Christos Anesti

God bless,
John.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Good morning everyone! His Emminence Archbishop JOB will be at the parish where I was Chrismated 6 years ago (my, how time flies) Sts. Peter and Paul OCA in Lorain, Ohio tonight for Presanctified Liturgy. Thus I will be attending Presanctified Liturgy there instead of at St. Innocent. I am so excited to get to see the bishop again! I hope all is well with everyone!

[PandaBear]

On that note I wish you all a blessed Lent and joyous Pascha. The next time we meet we will be shouting Christos Anesti

God bless,
John.

Wow, John, thank you so much for sharing of your journey. I wonder what it takes to be a monk or a nun...are folks born predisposed to such a life, or does it just come with practices?

I suppose the answer is "yes"?

Anyway, enjoy your Lent away from TAW. Unless you're willing to read through three or four Tavernas, of course, you may never see this message!

PB

[Matrona]

What a wonderful experience that must have been, prodromos!

[Momzilla]

:wave: Hello all, here I am again, breaking my lenten promise to spend less time surfing the 'net. What can I say--I miss my friends at TAW! :)

[Matrona]

Hey Momz!

Lenten promise or no, it is good to see you. :)

[Mary of Bethany]

:wave: Hello all, here I am again, breaking my lenten promise to spend less time surfing the 'net. What can I say--I miss my friends at TAW! :)

LOL! Same here, Momzilla! I'm sooooooo weak.

Mary

[Khaleas]

Welcome to Helsinki Jennie!!! It's so beautiful here, lots of snow and sunshine!! :cool:

Yup, if it could make up it's mind if it was going to snow, be sunny... cuz it's going to be cold no matter how you turn it. My mom has an old house so it's darn chilly here too... oh well, give me a day or two.

Kolya, Nokialand is fine! COLD (wait, did I say that already :D ). I'm not really jetlagged with all that sleep but I'm just a bit tired.

Of course with the changes to my ticket they forgot my vegetarian food. :sigh: . But I tried my best to avoid the meat, but I did have some dairy. I figured that was the lesser of the two evil and I had to eat something (the granola bars weren't going to cut it). And mom had fixed some cheese of course when I got here (she was trying really hard, no meat or anything, but she missed the cheese part... well, can't break her heart when she sees me so rarely). I of course felt quite bad and spent a good while praying after dinner. She eats mainly veggies too so it shouldn't be too hard to keep up with lenten foods. And, on the other hand, lenten food is not supposed to cause crisis and fights either.
Tomorrow we're going to see my grandmother and Sunday I'm going to get to church. I'm going to try to make a stop at our 'local monks' (it's not an official monastery, but they live according to monastic rules) as they are having a bake/food sale on Sunday too. Plus they have bortsch soup for take-out. :yum: .

Anyways, that's about all here... I'll be ready to come back to the US in a few days.

[Matrona]

Good afternoon everybody!

My OCF was going to have a retreat this weekend, but we had to cancel at the last minute. But the good news is I'll be able to go to Akathist tonight. Woohoo!

[Wiffey]

Hi everyone! I went to Confession today, which is always a blessing. The more I go, the better I feel. Good news- I managed to convince my S-I-L to go to Confession! She's cradle Orthodox and in her mid-30's, but has never gone! Apparently there was a rumor going around when she was growing up that someone once hid in the choir loft and listened to all the Confessions then ratted about what everybody had confessed. That was it! My M-I-L never went after that, and my S-I-L never went at all. My husband went once when he was 12, then didn't go again until right before we were married.

Actually, I guess a lot of folks at my parish will not go to our priest because they don't want him to know their sins. Our priest is a great guy, too. Very compassionate. So he's actually arranging for an OCA priest to come and hear confessions one Saturday this Lent so folks can confess to someone they don't know. My S-I-L has agreed to confess to the OCA priest.

I guess a lot of folks do not ever go...I've heard folks say that all our sins are forgiven when we get annointed on Holy Wednesday, so Confession isn't really required. Our priest is constantly preaching about the need for Confession and really focusing on that this Lent. God bless him, he has his work cut out for him!

On another note...I just finished a terrific book: "Waiting for Snow in Havana", by Carlos Eire. Awesome!

[Wiffey]

If you look below at my sig, you'll see a photo of the Centro Gallego in Havana. This was the center for Spaniards from Galicia...my great grandfather used to be the President of the Centro Gallego. His father was the last Governor of the province of Havana for the King of Spain prior to Cuban Independence. His portrait used to hang in the Center, but I'm pretty sure Fidel took it down...

[A book I just finished deals with a prominent Havana family who lost everything in the Revolution and about formerly affluent folks having to adapt to starting over with nothing in the USA...so I spent a few moments wondering what my life would have been like growing up in the old family mansion in Havana (in a Fidel-free world) rather than pinching pennies in Miami. Since than line of thinking cannot be constructive, I switched to thanking my lucky stars that my family is here and free instead of cutting sugarcane for the Revolution.]


I'm not sure why I'm telling you this, guess I'm just feeling sentimental. In a similar vein, I finally got my grandfather's Diploma from the University of Havana. He left it to me when he died, and it's been in my mother's closet. Long story short: she got around to digging it out of the closet and now it is hanging up near my computer...

[Rilian]

I guess a lot of folks do not ever go...I've heard folks say that all our sins are forgiven when we get annointed on Holy Wednesday, so Confession isn't really required. Our priest is constantly preaching about the need for Confession and really focusing on that this Lent. God bless him, he has his work cut out for him!

My friend who came from the GOA told me similar stories. I'm glad to hear your priest is encouraging private confession, I think it's really important. St. Nectarios wrote a great little book just on repentance and confession. I don't think the Great and Holy Wednesday forgiveness thing would have flown with him.

[Wiffey]

I agree with St.Nektarios! Repentance is the core of our faith...without it we are lost.

[Alexis OCA]

If you look below at my sig, you'll see a photo of the Centro Gallego in Havana........

I'm not sure why I'm telling you this, guess I'm just feeling sentimental. In a similar vein, I finally got my grandfather's Diploma from the University of Havana. He left it to me when he died, and it's been in my mother's closet. Long story short: she got around to digging it out of the closet and now it is hanging up near my computer...

Thanks for sharing that. It was very interesting.

Re: your finally getting your grandfather's diploma, what do they say...mas vale tarde que nunca!

Warm regards.

[Fotina]

A book I just finished deals with a prominent Havana family who lost everything in the Revolution and about formerly affluent folks having to adapt to starting over with nothing in the USA.....

I wrote a long reply to this and managed to get it wiped out. :(

Anyway, my SIL and her family were just such affluent folks who fled from Cuba to US in the 60's when she was early teen. Her father was a lawyer, and her Mom had always had servants same with my SIL. Fortunately, the father made a successful career transition here. Today, the mother, now widowed and elderly, lives alone and does her own housework, "little by little", she says.

My SIL tells of how she had to go to work from the time they arrived in US. She did well though, has a graduate degree, and teaches high school Spanish. But the family went through many painful struggles and tragedies.

Sadly, my SIL and her Mom as well, have become very unhappy with the state of RC in US, to the point of rarely attending anymore. When Mel's movie "Passion" came out she told of how it reminded her of the traditional Catholic customs in Cuba (before Castro).

On a recent visit, we watched a video of Cuba. The scenery was really beautiful and unspoiled by the commercialism of most popular vacation spots. Castro's isolation of Cuba had some benefits.

Oh, I love black beans, chicken and rice dish (can't recall the name), and fried plantains....yummmmy!

I have a cassette tape of the Divine Liturgy in Spanish, recorded in Cuba, that I've been planning to copy and send to my SIL. I found an English/Spanish translation on a website and can follow along.

Senor ten piedad!

That's the extent of my Spanish. Anyway, just wanted to share some Cuban memoirs. :)

Fotina

ps. I just love my SIL, she talks a mile a minute with strong Cuban accent!

[Rilian]

Wiffey, if you're ever in Philly you should go to Alma de Cuba in center city. The food is awesome, though it's kind of a fancy restaurant. Normally I just like Mom and Pop type places for some simple Palomilla.

We moved out of Miami when I was a kid, but my I still love cuban food. My sister was telling me about a place in Ybor City she went to that we're going to try and find when we're in Tampa in a couple of months.

[Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta]

Good evening, all.:wave: Boy, you can tell it's Lent. Satan's been having a field day around here. Dad just threw one of his tantrums with yelling and throwing things. Hadn't seen one of those in a while. Good times...:sigh:

[Photini]

Hey everybody. :)

[Rilian]

Hey, I just got back from presanctified.

[Matrona]

I just got back from Akathist. I managed not to do too horribly, considering I haven't seen most of the music for it since last year...

[InnerPhyre]

I wasn't able to go to presanctified Liturgy because I'm at work. Bah...

[PandaBear]

Thanks for the encouragement about confession everyone. I'm actually terrified of my first one, before I am chrismated...I think because I don't want to face up to how sinful I actually am! Of course the Canons have been preparing me. I made it to the first two this week. I can't remember when they're doing the third and final one. Most likely I will miss the daytime services on Holy Thursday and Friday, which makes me sad, but I will certainly be there in the evenings.

I'll be talking to Father tomorrow about this, but if anyone knows a good place to look at regarding fasting challenges, I would be most grateful. Hmmm...I seem to recall a Lenten link thread on TAW...

(off to go look for it).

PB

[Matrona]

I wasn't able to go to presanctified Liturgy because I'm at work. Bah...

That stinks. Maybe you'll be able to go next week.

That reminds me, I need to practice the music for Presanctified, too... :eek: I love Great Lent, but being in the choir for it is exhausting!

[Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta]

My brother just asked if the Orthodox Church does altar calls.^_^ Then he asked about how people "get saved" in Orthodoxy. Boy, do I ever feel like a bumbling idiot. How do you explain something so radically different from Western evangelistic teachings to someone who only wants a Cliff Notes version of what we believe?:help:

[Rilian]

My brother just asked if the Orthodox Church does altar calls.^_^

Tell him yes, and they average about an hour and a half.

[MariaRegina]

My brother just asked if the Orthodox Church does altar calls.^_^ Then he asked about how people "get saved" in Orthodoxy. Boy, do I ever feel like a bumbling idiot. How do you explain something so radically different from Western evangelistic teachings to someone who only wants a Cliff Notes version of what we believe?:help:

Father Peter Gilquist used to do them at the annual Labor Day Evangelical Conference. It was a Holy Reconciliation Service. We all would gathered together for Vespers and then after Vespers, he would deliver a call to repentance (altar call) and encourage us to visit a priest for confession (and there were about 4 to 6 priests available). It was a good old fashioned altar call, except that instead of people going up and privately telling a minister their sins, they would go to a priest and receive absolution. Those Protestants don't know what they are missing until they attend one of our genuine altar calls.

[Matrona]

How do you explain something so radically different from Western evangelistic teachings to someone who only wants a Cliff Notes version of what we believe?:help:

Don't...

Just say, "Come and see."

[gzt]

Quick question about communion and days and timing: there is a liturgy Saturday morning, if one received at the Friday presanctified, can one receive on Saturday? I'm asking because the presanctified is, after all, vesperal, so it's really Saturday, hence the question.

[Vasya Davidovich]

My brother just asked if the Orthodox Church does altar calls.^_^
Well, yes, Duchess ... we do. "With fear and love draw near."
Then he asked about how people "get saved" in Orthodoxy. Boy, do I ever feel like a bumbling idiot. How do you explain something so radically different from Western evangelistic teachings to someone who only wants a Cliff Notes version of what we believe?:help:
With fear and trembling.

That's the Cliff Notes Version.
:)

[gzt]

In the fear of God, and with faith and love draw near.

[Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta]

Well, yes, Duchess ... we do. "With fear and love draw near."

With fear and trembling.

That's the Cliff Notes Version.
:)
Thanks. You should expand on this Cliff Notes idea.:D

[Vasya Davidovich]

In the fear of God, and with faith and love draw near.
DOH! :doh:

How many liturgies have I heard, have I participated in? and I still got that wrong?

Man, do I feel like a first-class idiot. :blush:

[Michael the Iconographer]

Hi everyone! Believe it or not, I just got back from Presanctified Liturgy! I went to the parish where I was Chrismated and there was a reader tonsured by Vladyka so Presanctified which began at 6 was not over until 7:30ish and then afterward they had everyone over the house of one of the parishoners and they insisted that I come over and eat with them! It is so humbling to see how much I am loved by my friends.

[33ad]

This is my #600. Wow! Time flies.

So I'll dedicate this one to Jennie.

Tomorrow we're going to see my grandmother and Sunday I'm going to get to church. I'm going to try to make a stop at our 'local monks' (it's not an official monastery, but they live according to monastic rules) as they are having a bake/food sale on Sunday too. Plus they have bortsch soup for take-out. :yum: .


Jennie,
I'm glad you arrived saftley.
Enjoy your visit at Gran's place today. Do not feel too bad about the food. It's the heart that counts the most with God, remeber. He knows you tried.

Enjoy your stay and get back to Kevin feeling refreshed at seeing your family again.

I'm waffeling.:sorry:

I'll be praying for you there and your safe return.

Kolya

[Strength&Honour]

Well, yes, Duchess ... we do. "With fear and love draw near."

With fear and trembling.

That's the Cliff Notes Version.
:)
love it!

[33ad]

Have a good Saturday everyone.!!!

Kolya

[Photini]

Good morning everybody. :) I'm taking my daughter for a haircut this morning. She wants it short....so wish us luck.

[Oblio]

Gah !

I was only able to keep the GH fast for less than a week :(

[Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta]

Good morning, all.:wave:

[Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta]

Is there a way to view all the posts of a particular CF member? Or at least their most recent ones?

[PandaBear]

Good morning everybody. Hmmm. I don't really have much to say. I'm still sleepy. Um, I'm going to the library today because I need to read The Orthodox Church (which I haven't yet done), and my copy is still packed away. And catechism this afternoon followed by Vespers. It's a nice way to spend a Saturday.

As I move closer to Chrismation, I continue to have "big faith questions." I worry about asking them in front of other catechumens, lest I create for them an unnecessary faith crisis or doubt. Has anyone else dealt with this? Do you think I'm being overcautious?

PB

[Oblio]

Is there a way to view all the posts of a particular CF member? Or at least their most recent ones?


Look under the popup menu under the users name, not sure if you have to be a mod to have this option.

[Momzilla]

:wave: Good morning! The boys and I just took a walk around the neighborhood, and now they're playing in the back yard. Time to do some housework!

[mommelisa]

deleted by me.

[Khaleas]

This is my #600. Wow! Time flies.

So I'll dedicate this one to Jennie.


Jennie,
I'm glad you arrived saftley.
Enjoy your visit at Gran's place today. Do not feel too bad about the food. It's the heart that counts the most with God, remeber. He knows you tried.

Enjoy your stay and get back to Kevin feeling refreshed at seeing your family again.

I'm waffeling.:sorry:

I'll be praying for you there and your safe return.

Kolya

Thank you Kolya! :blush:

I had a great time today. We got me a new mid size suitcase so I don't have to travel with my 'beached whale' all the time. We were going to go look in the local Orthodox church there but they had a funeral going on so that didn't work out. Grandma also remembered that at some point while she lived in Switzerland she had bought an icon from some antique store. I've got to take a picture of it... I can't really figure it out, it's pretty old but it doesn't look typical... very tiny details. But when I get a chance I'll post a picture. Maybe our 'resident icon guru' can help me out...
Tomorrow I'm going to DL. I was trying to get mom to go with me but she of course came up with a zillion other things she 'needed' to do.

Anyways, it's darn cold here (the wind mainly)... Gonna go heat up now!

J :wave:

[Matrona]

Look under the popup menu under the users name, not sure if you have to be a mod to have this option.

You do. Erwin has removed that option for us proles, for the time being. People complained about CF being slow because of it.

I use dial up, and I would rather have CF to be slow than to be without this feature.

You can find your own posts by clicking on "Own" in the blue bars at the top of each page.

[Oblio]

You do. Erwin has removed that option for us proles, for the time being. People complained about CF being slow because of it.


Thanks, believe it or not, I don't have a 'laity' logon so I don't know what features (other than the obvious) are reserved for mods.

[ExOrienteLux]

Well, guys, I doubt if I'll be on much until tomorrow afternoon or Monday. I have to do lots of homework this afternoon, then head to Vespers, spend the evening with my girlfriend, come back, prepare for Communion, sleep, go to Matins/Liturgy, and I might be heading to Pittsburgh for Sunday of Orthodoxy Vespers. Full weekend, ja?

[Vasya Davidovich]

Ja. Da. Oui. Na'am. Si.

Full weekend.

[InnerPhyre]

Going back to vespers tonight. Can't wait :) Glory to Jesus Christ!

[MariaRegina]

Look under the popup menu under the users name, not sure if you have to be a mod to have this option.

Now we know who to ask -- ghostbusters! ha.

[MariaRegina]

Going back to vespers tonight. Can't wait :) Glory to Jesus Christ!

Me too.

[Prawnik]

Going back to vespers tonight. Can't wait :) Glory to Jesus Christ!

'Nuff said. God bless and many years.

[Momzilla]

:scratch: Does anyone know why I can't get a question mark to show up at the end of my custom user title? It showed up when I previewed it. :mad:

[Photini]

Hey everybody. Well, we did it. Kaylee got her first real haircut today. She smiled the whole time too. Gosh, her hair is almost a whole foot shorter now. Looks VERY nice.

Then I helped my sister-in-law move their king size water bed to their new apartment. !!! That was NOT FUN.

[Photini]

Oh yeah, and I decided to join the Y. I really need to get more active. I bet I could have kicked my cold a lot faster had I been in better physical health.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Hi all!

[Matrona]

:scratch: Does anyone know why I can't get a question mark to show up at the end of my custom user title? It showed up when I previewed it. :mad:

I don't know, but that's weird... I put a period at the end of mine and it is there, so it accepts some forms of punctuation...

[Vasya Davidovich]

Hey, Matrona.

Are you being harassed by an abusive authority figure? I noted your custom user title.

A concerned friend from TAW.

[Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta]

Hey, Matrona.

Are you being harassed by an abusive authority figure? I noted your custom user title.

A concerned friend from TAW.
I've been wondering about this, too.:scratch:

[Orthosdoxa]

I wondered if she's referring to Greer.

[Alexis OCA]

It's late and its supposed to rain tomorrow and I just can't wait for Divine Liturgy tomorrow (or should I say later this morning since I just realized it is now after midnight).
That was some week that just passed.

[MariaRegina]

It's late and its supposed to rain tomorrow and I just can't wait for Divine Liturgy tomorrow (or should I say later this morning since I just realized it is now after midnight).
That was some week that just passed.

Yes, it has been a beautiful clean start of Great Lent! Praise the Lord. :bow:

[Matrona]

Hey, Matrona.

Are you being harassed by an abusive authority figure? I noted your custom user title.

A concerned friend from TAW.

In a word, yes, but I don't want to discuss it further in public.

[Khaleas]

Good morning TAW!! :wave:

I'm off to Divine Liturgy soon! It's Palm Sunday here (which I am sorta happy for that because I will be traveling on our Palm Sunday)!


Hope you all have a wonderful (and warm) day!

[Michael the Iconographer]

His Emminence Archbishop JOB had this to say about Lent last night during his sermon: "The only thing Orthodox Christians give up for Great Lent is sin, everything else about Lent is a positive!"

[Vasya Davidovich]

In a word, yes, but I don't want to discuss it further in public.
Ah. Well, dang.

That's not good. I can't give you good advice ('cuz I don't know what's up), presupposing of course that my advice is good. And I don't know what to say without sounding glib. All I can offer you is prayer. Christ be with you, Theotokos defend you. May your guardian angel protect you, Matrona. :crosseo:

... Outside of that, I know some Russians who know some Russians who like baseball bats. (FYI, I have no sympathy for abusers.:mad: ) I really hope things get resolved soon, to your safety and benefit and the glory of God. :crosseo:

Your brother in Christ and in the Church,
Vasya.

[Photini]

Good morning everybody. :)

[PandaBear]

Good morning everyone. I'm feeling odd and kinda glum this morning, so I'm really glad that one of the first things I do is read this forum every morning. I really like the community here! And it's time to get ready to go to Divine Liturgy.

[Photini]

I have a terrible headache this morning. I woke up at 3 am with it. :(

[Khaleas]

DL was interesting... I guess the Orthodox around here come out of the woodworks when Pasha gets near. There was a few hundred at church this morning plus the normal Fathers serving and two visiting Fathers. It was crowded... plus it looked like they were having more of a grand old time at the altar exchanging pleasantries than serving the Liturgy. Oh well... Dang, and I totally missed the info that they had Liturgy in English at the same time... I'm really losing a lot of my Finnish but going to Liturgy isn't the best way to keep it up. I found myself missing the Russian...:sorry: And since we only have a Father and some Readers I had a hard time following along with the Deacons etc.


Hah, and I got my mom inside an Orthodox church today! Not for service but for the bakesale they had at the monastery. She thought the church was gorgeous inside (it's made inside an old stable but it's very very beautiful). Then we got some Borsch soup and had that for lunch. YUM! Tomorrow it's finally time to hit Helsinki for some shopping (stores are closed here on Sundays) and get together with some friends.

Hope you all are having a great Sunday! One week of Lent behind us...

[Suzannah]

Good morning 19th century Russia!!!!!

I want to say "AHOY"! Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated. I'm sorry I have not been around the Tavern much this week. Mainly, I have been "working" in RL and just trying to go to church a lot. When I have been here, it's to handle staff issues, etc. I have been neglectful of all my friends here, and I want to apologize. Forgive me!
:hug:

As an aside, does anybody have a "fair and balanced" report on Rasputin? Articles, links, essays, explanations from the Church, etc.?? Believe it or not, this has come up and I don't really know very much about him, or the role he may or may not have played in the life of the Royal Martyrs. If you can help me out, I would appreciate it....I saw a programme on the History channel called "Last of the Tsars" and it had a bio of him. The bio was not complementary but I am seriously thinking there is more to this story than meets the eye. Thanks!

[Matrona]

Ah. Well, dang.

That's not good. I can't give you good advice ('cuz I don't know what's up), presupposing of course that my advice is good. And I don't know what to say without sounding glib. All I can offer you is prayer. Christ be with you, Theotokos defend you. May your guardian angel protect you, Matrona. :crosseo:

... Outside of that, I know some Russians who know some Russians who like baseball bats. (FYI, I have no sympathy for abusers.:mad: ) I really hope things get resolved soon, to your safety and benefit and the glory of God. :crosseo:

Your brother in Christ and in the Church,
Vasya.

Thank you Vasya, having your prayers and support means a lot to me.

The timing of the recent commemoration of St. Polycarp was fortuitous and his prayers have helped me also.

And just so nobody gets any wild ideas, my user title does not refer to Michael. He has nothing to do with that. And he didn't have anything to do with my recent absence, either, just wanted to throw that out too.

[ufonium2]

Rasputin wasn't even Orthodox. He was a member of a sect called the "Skopsty" that believed something to the effect of "To be saved you have to be forgiven of a lot of sins, so you should sin a lot." Later in his life he visited holy places (I'm thinking Jerusalem and Mt Athos, but I may be wrong) and gained a following in Russia even among some clergy.

From what I have read, the movement a few years ago to canonize him along with Ivan the Terrible was a set-up by non-believers who wanted to make the Russian Orthodox Church look stupid. There were headlines like "Russian Church may schism over whether to canonize Rasputin" as if any bishop supported the idea. Patriarch Aleksy was very clear that there was no way either of them would be canonized, but the damage was already done. I've had to explain to several folks that there was never "a movement within Orthodoxy to canonize Rasputin" any more than the existence of the "Orthodox Cathedral of John Coltrane" in San Fransicso is a movement within Orthodoxy to canonize Coltrane.

[ufonium2]

DL was interesting... I guess the Orthodox around here come out of the woodworks when Pasha gets near. There was a few hundred at church this morning plus the normal Fathers serving and two visiting Fathers. It was crowded... plus it looked like they were having more of a grand old time at the altar exchanging pleasantries than serving the Liturgy. Oh well... Dang, and I totally missed the info that they had Liturgy in English at the same time... I'm really losing a lot of my Finnish but going to Liturgy isn't the best way to keep it up. I found myself missing the Russian...:sorry: And since we only have a Father and some Readers I had a hard time following along with the Deacons etc.


khaleas, are you sure it wasn't a city (or state)-wide Sunday of Orthodoxy combined Liturgy this morning? It's the custom in many places in America for all the churches in a given area to have a big Divine Liturgy (or sometimes Vespers) together on this Sunday. Tonight every Orthodox church in my whole state (all six of us, woohoo!) are meeting at the big Greek church in Louisville. Maybe your church is the "big church" in your area, and that might account for all the strangers.

[Matrona]

Rasputin wasn't even Orthodox. He was a member of a sect called the "Skopsty" that believed something to the effect of "To be saved you have to be forgiven of a lot of sins, so you should sin a lot." Later in his life he visited holy places (I'm thinking Jerusalem and Mt Athos, but I may be wrong) and gained a following in Russia even among some clergy.

:scratch: I heard something about a sect called Chylysty (probably misspelled) that elected one male member to be "Christ" and one to be "Mary" that had really perverted beliefs and their meetings usually ended up as orgies.... :eek: Anyway, I heard that Rasputin was connected with that, which doesn't surprise me since he was called "The Debauched One".

[InnerPhyre]

*Runs full speed into TAW, slams and locks the door behind him, sits down on the floor and catches breath*

Wow....I guess it's times like this where you find out who your true friends are. I've just been run out of OBOB in a rail.

[Matrona]

*Runs full speed into TAW, slams and locks the door behind him, sits down on the floor and catches breath*

Wow....I guess it's times like this where you find out who your true friends are. I've just been run out of OBOB in a rail.

:hug: Don't worry Mike, you are among friends here. Have an ouzo on me. :)

[Matrona]

"To thee the Champion Leader, I Thy servant ascribe thank-offerings of victory, for from all terrors hast thou delivered me. Since thou hast that power which is unassailable, from all dangers set me free, that I may cry unto thee, 'Hail, O Bride without Bridegroom!'"

[InnerPhyre]

Thanks Matrona :)

[Prawnik]

:scratch: I heard something about a sect called Chylysty (probably misspelled) that elected one male member to be "Christ" and one to be "Mary" that had really perverted beliefs and their meetings usually ended up as orgies.... :eek: Anyway, I heard that Rasputin was connected with that, which doesn't surprise me since he was called "The Debauched One".

The "Skoptsy" or "Castrati", were another sect in the Nineteenth Century Russia. I'll give you three guesses what they were into. From what we know, we can be pretty sure that Rasputin never followed that.

However, the region of eastern Siberia where Rasputin was from was notorious for spawning some odd heretical movements. For instance, the "Brotherhood of Red Death" which were into mass suicide, the Dukhobortsy, or "Spirit Wrestlers" and others. AFAIK, that part of Russia still contains a lot of Old Believers, "Red Dragon"-type schismatics, and others.

Some people who knew Rasputin suggested he was a Khylyst, or "Flagellant", but I don't think this has been resolved conclusively. Correct me if I am wrong.

Some Russian Orthodox (mostly vagante or schismatics) do believe that Rasputin and Ivan IV were saints, but this is very much a fringe opinion and is treated as such. The celebrated, talented and opinionated folk singer and extremist Zhanna Bichevskaya has come out in favor of the canonization of Ivan IV. I don't know what she thinks of G.E. Rasputin.

The flowering of weird heresies among the Russian peasantry is often taken as evidence of a survival of paganism by those inclined to look for imaginary pagans. In my opinion, since none of these heresies can be traced to any antiquity, it is more likely that such heresies were a response to the end of medeival Russia and the reforms of Nikon. To the peasantry, it seemed like the world was coming to an end. Similar movements could be seen in 16th century central Europe, with rise of Protestantism and the end of the Catholic monopoly on belief.

[Khaleas]

khaleas, are you sure it wasn't a city (or state)-wide Sunday of Orthodoxy combined Liturgy this morning? It's the custom in many places in America for all the churches in a given area to have a big Divine Liturgy (or sometimes Vespers) together on this Sunday. Tonight every Orthodox church in my whole state (all six of us, woohoo!) are meeting at the big Greek church in Louisville. Maybe your church is the "big church" in your area, and that might account for all the strangers.

Positive, it's Palmsunday here in Finland (I'm back here visiting family) as they are on the western calender. But I think it's the case everywhere, there was just A LOT more people than last time I went.
I wish I could have been there for the pan-Orthodox services because it was also a huge anniversary for the Greek Orthodox Cathedral in Baltimore.

[jameseb]

Good afternoon, TAW. :)

[PandaBear]

Good afternoon (or otherwise). I love this little church. Many folks brought food for after Liturgy, and there were lots of kids running around. And because it would take a major hike to actually process around the church, we walked out to the street and back in again with the icons.

Peace and all good!
PB

[Photini]

Good afternoon, TAW. :)
:wave:

[Photini]

:( Looks like I am joining the ranks of singles again. :sigh:

[Prawnik]

I'm sorry, Photini. :(

[Michael the Iconographer]

*Runs full speed into TAW, slams and locks the door behind him, sits down on the floor and catches breath*

Wow....I guess it's times like this where you find out who your true friends are. I've just been run out of OBOB in a rail.

I know exactly how you feel. You are welcome among us anytime!

[jameseb]

:( Looks like I am joining the ranks of singles again. :sigh:

Mmm.. what happened? :(

:hug: ...And a :wave: back at ya.

[Xpycoctomos]

**ALERT ** ALERT**

Marjorie siting!


**ALERT ** ALERT**

Hey marjorie! Hope your Lent is going swimmingly :)

[Rick of Wessex]

Hey, Photini! :wave:

Happy name day!! Many years! :hug:

Rick

[Photini]

Mmm.. what happened? :(

:hug: ...And a :wave: back at ya.
Just isn't working out. It's probably better this way anyhow.

[Photini]

Hey, Photini! :wave:

Happy name day!! Many years! :hug:

Rick
:) Thank you.

[jameseb]

Just isn't working out. It's probably better this way anyhow.

I'm sorry to hear that, Photini. :( But if you ever wanna talk about it, or if you're just bored and wanna talk about Star Trek ( ;) ) or whatever, please feel free to PM me anytime. Okies? :hug:

[Michael the Iconographer]

Jameseb! Have you popped your head in here so that I might rub it in my Terrible Towel? It is good to see you my fellow Republican friend!

[jameseb]

Jameseb! Have you popped your head in here so that I might rub it in my Terrible Towel? It is good to see you my fellow Republican friend!


The 'Terrible Dish Rag?' No thanks! I already use a couple for scrubbing the floors and blowing my nose with! :D ;)

Good to see you too, mate! :)

[Michael the Iconographer]

The 'Terrible Dish Rag?' No thanks! I already use a couple for scrubbing the floors and blowing my nose with! :D ;)

Good to see you too, mate! :)

You purple people never do give up? A bunch of barbarians you vikings fans are!

[jameseb]

You purple people never do give up? A bunch of barbarians you vikings fans are!

Hey, I resemble that compliment! :D

[Vasya Davidovich]

I'm happy. I finally got some pics scanned. I now can send pics of myself and some of my friends to the people I care about. Or, alternatively, I can post them here.

I feel like this has taken me roughly forever.

Anyway, I had a fabulous Sunday of Orthodoxy. The children and the children at heart processed around the Church with icons. LOTS of fun! Anyone else have similar stories?

[Alexis OCA]

:hug: Don't worry Mike, you are among friends here. Have an ouzo on me. :)

I'll keep the vodka handy, I just said goodbye too.

Mike, that thread did make for interesting reading though!:thumbsup:

[Michael the Iconographer]

Good night everyone! Between Church and then our men's group and going over my friend's place it has been a very long day. I only wish I had had the time to write icons on the Feast of Orthodoxy! But, oh well!

[Khaleas]

Howdydoo!! :wave:


Off to Helsinki in a little bit! I had to throw a mule before my Mom decided she was coming with me to look at a possible wedding dress. Seems like she is going through the 'terrible twos' again. Yesterday she kept poking fun on everything about Lent... ugh! Oh well, she's my mom (but sometimes I'm glad I'm not completely like her LOL).
It has gotten a little warmer... very pretty out in any case. I'm going to try to make it to Pre-Sanctified on Wednesday and also get together with some of my friends before Easter. Other than that, I'm starting to get ready to go home already... I miss my kitties and my puppy, not to mention my husband... :(

[ExOrienteLux]

Hello, good night.

It's 5:30 in the morning here. Why am I up so late? Especially when I have a 9:00 class tomorrow?

[Momzilla]

:wave: Good morning, TAW!

It's spring break for my kids, and by 8:00 this morning Andy (our 4-year-old) had already been in time out once. I don't know what's with him right now. No matter what we say, he cheerfully does exactly the opposite. It's driving us a little batty. My poor husband is going to have a very long week.

[Stephanida]

Hi everyone! Now off to Sociology class......... *rant* I hate public school the material they give is entirly inaproprite for the age group they are teaching. In my english class today some of the things that were being shown was totally disgraceful.......I wouldn't let adults see it. My classmates are as bad if not worse they were enjoying it now I am not sure whether to be sick or scream........either way I am not impressed and am really looking forward to my session at the mental health center later. I am so home schooling my children!!!!! *rant over*

[Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta]

Hi everyone! Now off to Sociology class......... *rant* I hate public school the material they give is entirly inaproprite for the age group they are teaching. In my english class today some of the things that were being shown was totally disgraceful.......I wouldn't let adults see it. My classmates are as bad if not worse they were enjoying it now I am not sure whether to be sick or scream........either way I am not impressed and am really looking forward to my session at the mental health center later. I am so home schooling my children!!!!! *rant over*
You poor thing.:hug: Dare I ask what on earth they were showing you in an English class? I'm just curious as to whether Canadian public schools are as bad as or worse than the ones in the US.

[Photini]

I'm sorry to hear that, Photini. :( But if you ever wanna talk about it, or if you're just bored and wanna talk about Star Trek ( ;) ) or whatever, please feel free to PM me anytime. Okies? :hug:
I'll probably be taking you up on that. :) Thanks.

[Photini]

Well, I'm off to get Kaylee's cast taken off today. Yay!

[Vasya Davidovich]

Stephanida:

I hear you about home-schooling. I am a teacher, and I cannot stand the moral climate of the public and Catholic (so-called separate) schools. It is beyond morally lax, and moving into morally bankrupt and evil. I cannot see how Christians could find it permissible to allow their children to be taught in such a climate. Do we not believe that if we train up a child in the way he should go, when he is old he will not depart from it? What then happens when we allow the State to train our children? When we have other choices? What a judgement we will be reaping!

I teach in a private Christian school... one that uses rigorous teaching methods (the ones abandonned by Dewey and his ilk). It would be a good alternate to home-schooling in that day when you find yourself with children of your own.

Feeling for you, hearing your pain, remembering the horrors of my childhood,
Your friend and brother, Vasya.

[Matrona]

Stephanida:

I hear you about home-schooling. I am a teacher, and I cannot stand the moral climate of the public and Catholic (so-called separate) schools. It is beyond morally lax, and moving into morally bankrupt and evil. I cannot see how Christians could find it permissible to allow their children to be taught in such a climate. Do we not believe that if we train up a child in the way he should go, when he is old he will not depart from it? What then happens when we allow the State to train our children? When we have other choices? What a judgement we will be reaping!

If I can't find an Orthodox private school, I'm definitely homeschooling my kids.

[Xpycoctomos]

I've seen a few Catholic Schools... I think it REALLY depends on what school you look at. I would send my kid to a good Catholic School (assuming it is christ-centered and good academically)... at least a grade school. That's just me. Obviously a parent needs to do whta they feel is best for their child. It's surely not one size fits all.

[Vasya Davidovich]

I've seen a few Catholic Schools... I think it REALLY depends on what school you look at. I would send my kid to a good Catholic School (assuming it is christ-centered and good academically)... at least a grade school. That's just me. Obviously a parent needs to do whta they feel is best for their child. It's surely not one size fits all.
Right. In speaking to Stephanida, I am touching on a common Canadian experience. For the most part Catholic schools are funded publicly in Canada, and so follow government-ordained curricula. This is not so bad, as a strong Christian voice can mediate whatever curriculum is currently being trumpeted by the powers that be. However, in the past 40 years Catholic schools have become nigh-unto spiritually destitute. There are, of course, exceptions. But in Canada, the exceptions are very hard to find.

Home schooling and private schooling are on the rise as never before.

[Xpycoctomos]

Ohh... sorry to butt in. I forgot aobut the whole Catholic school thing there. I stayed in Quebec for a while and taught us about that. Sorry. :) Very different indeed.

[Prawnik]

Well, I'm off to get Kaylee's cast taken off today. Yay!

Is this an appropriate time to say "doot doot"?

[Photini]

Is this an appropriate time to say "doot doot"?
YES! ...but the rest of my day has been totally @@@@. (Can I say that word on here?)

[Photini]

lol, apparently not.

[Photini]

We got a parakeet today, though. My daughter named it "Pixie" (we don't know if it's a she or a he).

[rhyddid_rose]

To Life Immortal

Hey, I just got a CF Pet. Her name is Koshka. IRL I have 2 cats: Malcolm and Moses. We're taking Mandi to the animal shelter tomorrow and I will hope and pray someone will take him in.

Malcolm is a affectionate little thing. He likes being near us and will sleep on the blanket with his brother. 4 month old kittens are cute to watch and are great company while playing MUD games or posting to TAW.

I hope I get a digital camera for my birthday or name day. I can upload the kittens' picture.


Peace and Long Life
~*~ бабочка ~*~

[Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta]

Howdy, all.:wave: I just blew my fast, big time.:( It's not that I ate something I really shouldn't have, but I ate too much of it. Since I'm not following a full fast, I've been trying not to over-eat anything. Well, crud. Tomorrow's another day, I guess. I'll just have to get back on the horse.

[xenia]

We got a parakeet today, though. My daughter named it "Pixie" (we don't know if it's a she or a he).

Cool! When I was a little girl, I also had a parakeet named Pixie.

[Photini]

Pixie has been sitting in the same spot for several hours now. I wonder if she's (I'll just call it a she) in shock from the trip home or something. Poor thing.

[Photini]

Cool! When I was a little girl, I also had a parakeet named Pixie.
:) That's funny.

[Photini]

Maybe I should cover her cage with a towel or something

[xenia]

Regarding private Christian schools, if you are Orthodox and want your kids to remain Orthodox, don't send them to an Evangelical school. We have 3 Orthodox girls who attend our school, and I overhear the staff trying to figure out how to get them to the youth group all the time. Their beliefs are considered inconsequential. Among the staff, even more than among the other students, the whole idea is to get them away from the dark spooky isolated Orthodox Church and out into the light where they are free to love Jesus.

If you remember me asking for prayer a few weeks back because I said I "had words" with my principal, this was the subject we had words about.

[Photini]

LOL! My daughter made a sign to put near the cage. It says, "Do not put your finger in! Dust look!"

[xenia]

Maybe I should cover her cage with a towel or something

That's probably a good idea. Birds should be covered up at night anyway, and it's probably getting late over in your part of the world.

[Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta]

Hey, does anyone know what the status is with getting a new faith icon? I was hoping we would have it by now. I like the newer one we voted on much better than what we have.

[Vasya Davidovich]

Regarding private Christian schools, if you are Orthodox and want your kids to remain Orthodox, don't send them to an Evangelical school. We have 3 Orthodox girls who attend our school, and I overhear the staff trying to figure out how to get them to the youth group all the time. Their beliefs are considered inconsequential. Among the staff, even more than among the other students, the whole idea is to get them away from the dark spooky isolated Orthodox Church and out into the light where they are free to love Jesus.

If you remember me asking for prayer a few weeks back because I said I "had words" with my principal, this was the subject we had words about.
I taught at a Christian school, though while not necessarily evangelical had many evangelical traits. It was hard, very hard.

I can't imagine how hard it would be to keep one's children's faith pure in such a milieu.

[Vasya Davidovich]

Hey, does anyone know what the status is with getting a new faith icon? I was hoping we would have it by now. I like the newer one we voted on much better than what we have.

I second that! :)

[xenia]

I taught at a Christian school, though while not necessarily evangelical had many evangelical traits. It was hard, very hard.

At times it is almost more than I can bear.

[Matrona]

I second that! :)

Yeah, it was like the issue evaporated... I guess we should bring it up again.

[xenia]

Regarding the faith icon change.

I presented it to the higher-ups and no one was interested.

Idea: Present the idea in the CF support forum. I think you might succeed there.

[Vasya Davidovich]

Yeah, it was like the issue evaporated... I guess we should bring it up again.
Here, or in a new thread?

[Vasya Davidovich]

Regarding the faith icon change.

I presented it to the higher-ups and no one was interested.

Idea: Present the idea in the CF support forum. I think you might succeed there.
Where's that?

And where's Chrysostomos? I need help here.

[xenia]

Go to CF's front page and find, near the top, a section called "Official Forums." Within that section find a section called "CF Support." Within that section are one or two good places to try, such as "Suggest a CF Feature." Erwin reads the Official Forums regularly.

[Vasya Davidovich]

Thanks, xenia!

[Alexis OCA]

Cool! When I was a little girl, I also had a parakeet named Pixie.

Is that possible???:P

[Alexis OCA]

Pixie has been sitting in the same spot for several hours now. I wonder if she's (I'll just call it a she) in shock from the trip home or something. Poor thing.

You sure you got a live bird?^_^

[xenia]

Is that possible???:P

Possible that I was ever a little girl? :P Let's see, I had that bird when I was about 8. 45 years ago. Almost half a century ago.

Holy mackerel. I AM getting old!

[Alexis OCA]

I teach in a private Christian school...


I teach in a Catholic High School...you should hear my lectures on the History of the Byzantine Empire and the East-West Schism.;)

[Matrona]

While forum technical stuff is being brought up...

Does anybody else think it might be a good idea to allow non-Christians to ask questions and have fellowship here in TAW?

A long time ago there was a brief discussion on this (it was a threadjack IIRC) and I think everyone thought it was a good idea, but it just never came to fruition.

There are the "outreach" fora but nobody here ever goes to those.

[Alexis OCA]

Possible that I was ever a little girl? :P Let's see, I had that bird when I was about 8. 45 years ago. Almost half a century ago.

Holy mackerel. I AM getting old!

ROFL....No, I meant was it possible two people would name their parakeet Pixie.^_^


I'm 45 in May and my parakeet's name was Petey....then he died..and I got Petey 2. Anyway....

[xenia]

ROFL....No, I meant was it possible two people would name their parakeet Pixie.^_^



:D I knew that was what you meant. :D

[xenia]

I'm 45 in May and my parakeet's name was Petey....then he died..and I got Petey 2. Anyway....

You should have named him Repete. :thumbsup:

[Vasya Davidovich]

You should have named him Repete. :thumbsup:
ROTFL.

[Matrona]

After my little Tyler went to Rainbow Bridge, I adopted two rabbits. I ended up naming them Anastasia and Alexei. But since Alexei looks so much like Tyler did, I thought of naming him Tyler 2. And then I thought, if I call him Tyler 2, I'd have to name the girl Tippecanoe: "Tippecanoe and Tyler, too!"

[Vasya Davidovich]

Regarding the faith icon change.

I presented it to the higher-ups and no one was interested.

Idea: Present the idea in the CF support forum. I think you might succeed there.

I posted.

http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=14383753#post14383753

[Paisley]

Say, I've been wondering if it would be okay if I bought the gold Orthodox cross in the special items section, and equip it? I mean, since I am not truly Orthodox (yet), would it offend any here if I did this? Thought it would be best to ask this, first. :)

[Alexis OCA]

:D I knew that was what you meant. :D

I knew you knew that is what I meant..I am just being a prankster tonight....^_^

[Alexis OCA]

I really like the blue icon....hope the message gets through.

[Alexis OCA]

You should have named him Repete. :thumbsup:

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA....rofl.....^_^

[xenia]

Say, I've been wondering if it would be okay if I bought the gold Orthodox cross in the special items section, and equip it? I mean, since I am not truly Orthodox (yet), would it offend any here if I did this? Thought it would be best to ask this, first. :)

No one would be at all offended! And if you are serious about becoming Orthodox, that is, if you really planning to convert, no one here would mind if you changed your faith icon to Orthodox. Many of us here used the Orthodox icon before we were chrismated into the Church.

[Alexis OCA]

After my little Tyler went to Rainbow Bridge, I adopted two rabbits. I ended up naming them Anastasia and Alexei. But since Alexei looks so much like Tyler did, I thought of naming him Tyler 2. And then I thought, if I call him Tyler 2, I'd have to name the girl Tippecanoe: "Tippecanoe and Tyler, too!"

This place is on a roll!!!

[Vasya Davidovich]

I decided years ago that if I had a black dog I would name him King Coal.

[Paisley]

I really like the blue icon....hope the message gets through.

I love blue! That's my favorite color. :)

[Paisley]

No one would be at all offended! And if you are serious about becoming Orthodox, that is, if you really planning to convert, no one here would mind if you changed your faith icon to Orthodox. Many of us here used the Orthodox icon before we were chrismated into the Church.

That's great, thanks! Yes, as far as I know ... at the least I'll be studying thoroughly, and plan on a formal study for certain, plus go to some services. When I actually go then I will change the faith icon. I just have been studying on my own temporarily until I'm able to get to the Orthodox Church. There are physical reasons I cannot go at this time, otherwise this would have already begun. :holy:

[elizabethevangeline]

Say, I've been wondering if it would be okay if I bought the gold Orthodox cross in the special items section, and equip it? I mean, since I am not truly Orthodox (yet), would it offend any here if I did this? Thought it would be best to ask this, first. :)

Anyone notice the wooden Orthodox cross is backwards? The lower bar is tilted the wrong way. I would buy one but it bugs me that it's "wrong".

[Paisley]

I decided years ago that if I had a black dog I would name him King Coal.

That's cute! :)

[ExOrienteLux]

You sure you got a live bird?^_^

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/460000/images/_463071_parrot1.jpg

"He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker! He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed him to the perch, he'd be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!!"

^_^ ^_^ ^_^

[Alexis OCA]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/460000/images/_463071_parrot1.jpg

"He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker! He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed him to the perch, he'd be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!!"

^_^ ^_^ ^_^


I could go for a spam sandwich right about now!

[Matrona]

:D

Well, good night everyone. I have a Russian test tomorrow so please pray for me. My little Alexei could use some prayers too, he's not been feeling well. :(

[33ad]

Morning all,
Just got back to the office after a LONG weekend. I didn't feel lile logging on after Saturday morning. Well, it's a 3 day work week for us, the another 4 days off for Latin Easter.:thumbsup:
Fish for lunch on Friday folks! Annuciation of the Theotokos.
Chior practice tonoght for the first English Liturgy April 2.

Those going to bed, have a good rest. Those of us in the Eurasian/African Hemisphere will hold the fort.

Jennie,
Are you still in Finland? If you are, enjoy the day with your family.

Back to work. :(

In IC XC

Kolya

[Khaleas]

You should have named him Repete. :thumbsup:


^_^

[Vasya Davidovich]

Well, I am tiring.

Good night, all! Or good morning, as the case may be.

God be with you and grant you a good rest/blessed day/both at the same time.

Peace,
Vasya.

[33ad]

Hi Jennie,

How's the weather today? We're definitly going into fall now. Equinox was yesterday, so on the downhill to winter for us.

Kolya

[Khaleas]

Morning all,

Fish for lunch on Friday folks! Annuciation of the Theotokos.
Chior practice tonoght for the first English Liturgy April 2.

Those going to bed, have a good rest. Those of us in the Eurasian/African Hemisphere will hold the fort.

Jennie,
Are you still in Finland? If you are, enjoy the day with your family.

Back to work. :(

In IC XC

Kolya

Holding down the fort!! :wave:

Yup, still in Finland... will hang out here until the 28th. No Chrismation tho... :sigh: but I'm ok with it I guess. I'll try to be back here in May so maybe it will work out then. Otherwise I can get Chrismated over Pasha.
Mom leaves today (she actually came with me to look at wedding gowns yesterday... and I have to start looking again, didn't like the one I thought I would) so no more Orthodox jokes... :clap: . I guess I have to deal with a few after Thurs again when she is back. I'm going to try to make pre-sanctified tomorrow morning. I've been bad and not going to church everyday, but I am still kind of off my schedule and I want to spend time with my family too. Getting ready to go back home though... this is only fun for so long.
OK, I do have one big purchase to make... my Orthodox cross.
http://www.kalevalakoru.fi/korut/kuvasto/helat/6633

And I also found this...
http://www.kalevalakoru.fi/korut/kuvasto/kaadyt/1100
It's a praying Theotokos. It's a replica of one they have found from the crusades from Constantinople. This one is Byzantine and is from around 1050-1300 AD.

OK, breakfast and I'm off to my drs appointment and to get a baptism certificate. YAY!

Hope you all have a good one!

[33ad]

Holding down the fort!! :wave:

Yup, still in Finland... will hang out here until the 28th. No Chrismation tho... :sigh: but I'm ok with it I guess. I'll try to be back here in May so maybe it will work out then. Otherwise I can get Chrismated over Pasha.

I sure hope something can be worked out.

I'm going to try to make pre-sanctified tomorrow morning. I've been bad and not going to church everyday, but I am still kind of off my schedule and I want to spend time with my family too. Getting ready to go back home though... this is only fun for so long.


Don't try to do too much at once. Just keep a good balance. You only see your family every so often.


OK, I do have one big purchase to make... my Orthodox cross.
http://www.kalevalakoru.fi/korut/kuvasto/helat/6633

And I also found this...
http://www.kalevalakoru.fi/korut/kuvasto/kaadyt/1100
It's a praying Theotokos. It's a replica of one they have found from the crusades from Constantinople. This one is Byzantine and is from around 1050-1300 AD.


WHAT A STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL CROSS!!!
And that praying Theotokos pendant is a beaut too!

OK, Have a good one!

We'll chat later.

Kolya

[prodromos]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/460000/images/_463071_parrot1.jpg

"He's not pining! He's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker! He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed him to the perch, he'd be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!!"

^_^ ^_^ ^_^
Aah! I simply cannot resist posting after this. Have you seen John Cleese's eulogy for Graham Chapman? :D
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2665837

[John quietly creeps back to his cave to pray]

[Photini]

You sure you got a live bird?^_^

I am starting to wonder....He's still standing in the spot.

[33ad]

Aah! I simply cannot resist posting after this. Have you seen John Cleese's eulogy for Graham Chapman? :D
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2665837


I still think that clip shown above is one of the most classic scenes EVER filmed.

SIDEBAR:// We have TWO of those African Greys, and they can drive you up the wall. Whenever Seraphima and I come home late from Vespers or Choir Practise, then we are scolded in a loud voice when opening the front door "Oooh! This is B*ll S*iT!!"

(Of course, we NEVER, EVER used such language in OUR home.):blush:

Kolya