Those who listen to Christian music/attend church

[ShirChadash]

Have you ever noticed what a lot of our worship songs have been crying out to G-d for over the last decade or so?


Refiner's Fire
Purify my heart
let me be as gold
pure gold

Purify my heart
cleanse me from within
and make me holy

Refiner's Fire
My heart's one desire
is to be holy
set apart for you Lord
I choose to be holy
set apart for you my master,
ready to do your will.


I want to Know You
I want to know you
Lord I must know you
I want to be found in you
I want to be clothed in your truth

So I fix my eyes on you
Lord I must see you
I put my faith in you
I spend my life on you

I want to know you
I want to know you
I want to love you
I want to know you more
Jesus, Jesus



I Humble Myself Before You
I humble myself before you
to walk in your love my Heavenly Father
I want to be holy and true
here in my heart
I humble myself before you

I will be yours
simple and broken
walk through the door
that leads to your heart
I will be yours
heed what you've spoken
Here in my heart
I humble myself before you


More Love, More Power
More love, more power
more of you in my life

and I will worship you
with all of my heart
and I will worship you
with all of my might
and I will worship you
with all of my strength
for you are my Lord...



Just a few I can think of, but you get the picture... over the last decade, I can think of scores of songs sung in the churches begging G-d for Him to teach us His Ways and to make us holy... and now is there any wonder that the Heart of G-d has heard the cries of His children and is responding by opening our eyes to the Truth of His instructions in His Torah being for today and not having been "nailed to the cross" with Messiah? Torah ways ARE His "Ways".

[Shimshon]

Yes, I was thinking of something just a few days ago along the same lines. I noticed how in this age of "revival" all are crying out, MORE LORD....MORE!!! I"M HUNGRY FOR YOU!!!.....I NEED MORE OF YOU!!! Come and FILL this temple with your Spirit!

For "Spirit filled" Ruach living children of YHWH, you'd think they were shut out or lacking something that they severly needed. And truthfully I see thier need.

But what will happen when the Glory of YHWH gives them what they pray for? Will they run into the cloud, into the Glory of YHWH? Or will they hear the Shofar and FEAR that YHWH will KILL them again? All YHWH did was tell them how to love him. And they ran thinking he would kill them.

Like in days of old;

They run out of Egypt arms open to thier Elohay. Let my people go!!! and they run as fast as they can when they are loosed. Only to be called into his presence (Mt Sinai) and when they hear their loving ABBA tell them how to remain in love with him. When they get what they have been praying for, for hundreds of years. THEY RUN as fast as they can in the opposite direction!:eek:

[beej7]

Shimson said:
"Yes, I was thinking of something just a few days ago along the same lines. I noticed how in this age of "revival" all are crying out, MORE LORD....MORE!!! I"M HUNGRY FOR YOU!!!.....I NEED MORE OF YOU!!! Come and FILL this temple with your Spirit!"
When I pray, or sing with this thought in mind, it has this meaning--'I want to decrease, and You, Lord, increase in my life.' The Holy Spirit fills us to the brim. At the same time, I think there is no end to what there is to know about Him, no end to my need for Him, no end to His Wisdom, on and on and on....So--Reveal more of Yourself to Me, L-rd! Fill me L-ord! Teach me MORE!
:bow:

Beej

[Beth-el girl]

Open the eyes of my heart Lord, Open the eyes of my heart!!!

[plum]

Looking at "Refiner's Fire" up there reminds me of a message preached one Sunday that I still remember often... the crux of it was this:

Don't sing it if you're not ready to receive it! If you don't truly want to be tested by fire, don't ask for the flames of purification. He who asks, receives. He who seeks, finds... If you're asking, be prepared to feel the flames of purification and the sting of the ripping away of your fleshly desires, your worldly hopes. Mean what you say!

[debi b]

There is so much real estate in scripture taken up with the idea that Adonai chastises, rebukes, corrects, tests those he loves. We can read much about how we should respond to that - don't turn away from it. Job didn't really ask for any kind of testing - but at the end of the day he did realize he had things to work on :)

[ShirChadash]

Looking at "Refiner's Fire" up there reminds me of a message preached one Sunday that I still remember often... the crux of it was this:

Don't sing it if you're not ready to receive it! If you don't truly want to be tested by fire, don't ask for the flames of purification. He who asks, receives. He who seeks, finds... If you're asking, be prepared to feel the flames of purification and the sting of the ripping away of your fleshly desires, your worldly hopes. Mean what you say!

Ooh, missju that sent a chill through me (a good one, if you know what I mean). I heard a similar sermon once, early on.


When I left my childhood church in search of more, I prayed to G-d:

Lord, I will go anywhere, do anything, endure anything
in order to serve You as You would have me to serve You.


And I stopped praying it for years, because within months of beginning to pray that prayer, I got waylayed (as a very baby believer in the area of walking-the-walk I talked) by a group of people G-d intended to disband so He could heal a church and community, and stop them from doing such harm... and they were disbanded by G-d some couple of years later due to the situation they brought about, but boy! did they ever cream me with their super-spiritual, false "prophetic" cultish ways.

Yet, I received words and dreams from the Lord all throughout the ordeal, letting me know what He was doing, and what they were doing :sigh: , and I was sheltered under the right-there wings of the solid pastor and his wife and so many of the wiser parishoners. People often told me (and I know) that He would never have allowed me to endure such heartache and fast growth at the same time, were it not for the fact that He knew my faith in Him could not be shaken by it, but would only deepen. (And this was RIGHT at the time when Refiner's Fire was hitting the churches as new worship music so we were playing it a lot). Wow. The encouragement changed my perspective on the situation quite a bit, when I would have rather walked out of that place and never walked into another church again (which, the next church was instrumental in my healing, so... :angel:)


Well anyway, to make a long story longer ;) even though I have stopped praying that prayer, G-d obviously is still honoring it -- hence this recent move He has journeyed us through, and I can't begin to even share how faithful He has been to us in every minute detail, and the biggies too, and what a perfect place this is for us to live. :)

Thanks for reminding me, Missju... I shall start praying that again.

[ShirChadash]

Oooh, I've thought of another one I like, and it's still popular now:



Show Me Your Ways

by Hillsong United



Show me Your ways
That I may walk with You
Show me Your ways
I put my hope in You

Chorus

The cry of my heart
Is to love You more
To live with the
Touch of Your hand
Stronger each day
Show me Your ways

(Repeat verse & chorus 3 times)
(Repeat chorus)

Joh 14:15 (http://bible1.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=joh+14:15&version=csb&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1) "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Joh 14:21 (http://bible1.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=joh+14:21&version=csb&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1) The one who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. And the one who loves Me will be loved by My Father. I also will love him and will reveal Myself to him."

[yod]

Well anyway, to make a long story longer ;) even though I have stopped praying that prayer, G-d obviously is still honoring it -- hence this recent move He has journeyed us through, and I can't begin to even share how faithful He has been to us in every minute detail, and the biggies too, and what a perfect place this is for us to live. :)

Thanks for reminding me, Missju... I shall start praying that again.

that is beautiful, Ms Z


Once when I was a fairly young believer and praying with our music team, I prayed that the Lord would do whatever it took to conform us into the image of Yeshua quickly. The worship leader stepped back from the circle and said, "Hang on just a minute....you can have that prayer"

It was about a year later that my wife cruised and I was a single parent of 4 small children. Boy did I learn about being a shepherd in the wilderness!

I was reminded later by someone on the music team that had I asked to be conformed "quickly". He was sooooo faithful in those dark days...and my life is better now that it would have been otherwise...but I'm a little more careful about how I word those kinds of prayers now. He does answer.

[ShirChadash]

Yes, He surely does! He is so Ever-Faithful, and I admit that all too often I am a faithless wuss of a follower of Him; no doubt about it. But He keeps me moving along slowly, nonetheless. :)

His good, not mine.
^ I know you're saying the same thing.

Shalom.

[Beth-el girl]

How about Psalm 13 (How Long O Lord) Brian Doerksen, Karen Minchinson
How long O Lord will you forget me
How long O Lord
Will you look the other way
How long O Lord
Must I wrestle with me thoughts
And everyday
Have much Sorrow in my heart
Look on me and answer
O God my Father
Bring light to my darkness
Before the see me fall
But I trust in your unfailing love
Yes my heart will rejoice
still I sing of your unfailing love
You have been good
You have been good to me

[ShirChadash]

Beth-El Girl

:thumbsup::amen: Light in the Darkness!!

PS 119:

104Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way. 105Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

106I have sworn, and I will perform it, that I will keep thy righteous judgments.

[Beth-el girl]

Beth-El Girl

:thumbsup::amen: Light in the Darkness!!

PS 119:

104Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way. 105Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

106I have sworn, and I will perform it, that I will keep thy righteous judgments.
Zemirah,
There's the answer that would be awsome if they would preforn How long O Lord then give the answer.

[ShirChadash]

*bump* Just for the fun of it :D

[Beth-el girl]

Have any of you listened to Jami Smith--- Wash Over me. I love this CD, My Son likes it a lot and is learning to play the msic. He is also learning Shout to the North.

[ShirChadash]

I don't know the first song you mentioned there, Beth-El girl... but my children and I were listening to the CD that "Shout to the North" is on, just yesterday! :D

[Beth-el girl]

I don't know the first song you mentioned there, Beth-El girl... but my children and I were listening to the CD that "Shout to the North" is on, just yesterday! :D

She's really good you can find her stuff in the Hosanna music.
www.jamismith.com (http://www.jamismith.com)
You prepare a table is another good one. It's all good though.