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Sephania
23rd February 2005, 07:08 PM
Found this interesting site
Bible Study on the Non-Flesh Diet
of the Remnant Church (http://gospel-herald.com/bible_studies/veg_diet_study.htm)
It was the first sin, it was the first thing HaSatan tempted Yeshua with, it is not something to be though trivial.
Please note the difference between permission and G-d telling the people to actually do something. Difference between "You many" and "Thou shalt".:)
Wags
23rd February 2005, 09:34 PM
Interesting article!
Sephania
28th February 2005, 06:03 PM
Thanks!
I thought that Vis might like this too. ;)
Visionary??????????????
visionary
1st March 2005, 08:19 PM
Have you looked up these verses... some of it does not quite jive... stretching the spiritual intent maybe...
This period the antitype of the 40 years period. 1 Corinthians 10:11.
11Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.Given manna to eat...spiritual food... 2And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
You take this statement.... now where in the fall feasts do you understand a antitype of the last day of each year....from 1491 BC to 31 AD... Does anyone know the significance of 1491??
This period the antitype of the last day of each year, from 1491 B.C. to 31 A.D.
Compare Leviticus 23:26-32, with Daniel 8:13, 14; 9:27. And how does it compare to the prophectic latter days, end time prophecies?
Flesh food taken away, because unlawful. 1 Corinthians 10:8, 11; Romans 7:7. Non of these verse were talking directly about flesh food taken away... or becoming unlawful.Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. So as I look at each of these verses and try to relate what the author is hinting at by this strange type of corolation, I am not finding even the inference that he wishes to be there.
The Remnant Church, the antitypical Israel, return to the original diet. 1 Timothy 4:1-6; Genesis 1:29 Now I am all for going back to the Eden diet. I do personally believe that when it is restored every creature will be vegetarian... so that the lamb can lay down beside the lion. But the verses that this author has chosen are not the verses that I would have chosen to prove Eden diet for the remnant. 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. 6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
We must overcome as Christ overcame. Revelation 3:21, 22.
Why was he tempted on appetite first? Genesis 3:1-6.
Will Christ be less particular with the remnant than He was with the type? 1 Corinthians 10:31, 6. This is not a bad verse to choose... as we understand the need to do all things to the glory of the Lord.
1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
I know that I have only chosen a small section of this website to study on this post... but I think you can see what I have found.
Then can we expect Christ to bless flesh food for us? He will not. Study Numbers 11.
Antitypical fast illustrated. Daniel 10:2, 3.
Beware lest we be found fulfilling Isaiah 66:17.
Our duty at this time. Joel 2:1, 15; Isaiah 58:1. For eg: I do not see us doing any of this... as we are busy checking to see that not even the Vit D. supplement added is contaminated. I know that if any swine's flesh is found in the food, that conscienciously we would not consume the food, nor think that God would bless the food for us to eat.
Isaiah 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.I would not even be surprised that the author himself is not aware of the Vit D in his milk contains the very swine's flesh that he is warning us about... but he is unaware...because he does not have such vigilant searchers as we have on this forum.... Todah
Wags
1st March 2005, 09:54 PM
I know that if any swine's flesh is found in the food, that conscienciously we would not consume the food, nor think that God would bless the food for us to eat.
I would not even be surprised that the author himself is not aware of the Vit D in his milk contains the very swine's flesh that he is warning us about... but he is unaware...because he does not have such vigilant searchers as we have on this forum.... Todah
I've contacted several dairies now, and every single one of them has responded that the source of their Vit D3 additive is lanolin - which is a derivative of wool.
Other than the one source Ahavah listed, I have not found anything else to suggest that swine is used to make Vit D.
talmidim
1st March 2005, 11:32 PM
Hi visionary,
Hope this isn't too far off the UP. I was wondering what the "abomination" was that is referred to in this verse? Is it blood? And what does the mouse refer to?
Isaiah 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
Thanks
Sephania
2nd March 2005, 11:29 AM
Thanks Vis, for your perusal, I only glanced causually over this article as I was doing some research on fasts, and in particular the so called "Daniel Fast". I did not read it in its entirety, that's why I posted it here , for others, such as yourself that have done study more in this area than I.
Yes, I can see some twisiting going on but thought the concept interesting to discuss.
I did like this however:
Please note the difference between permission and G-d telling the people to actually do something. Difference between "You may" and "Thou shalt".:)
Meat was never a 'thou shalt', it was always a 'you may' so would this fall under the much mis-used quote of Sha'uls that all things are permissable but not all things are edifying? ;)
visionary
2nd March 2005, 01:49 PM
Thanks Vis, for your perusal, I only glanced causually over this article as I was doing some research on fasts, and in particular the so called "Daniel Fast". I did not read it in its entirety, that's why I posted it here , for others, such as yourself that have done study more in this area than I.
Yes, I can see some twisiting going on but thought the concept interesting to discuss.
I did like this however:
Please note the difference between permission and G-d telling the people to actually do something. Difference between "You may" and "Thou shalt".:)
Meat was never a 'thou shalt', it was always a 'you may' so would this fall under the much mis-used quote of Sha'uls that all things are permissable but not all things are edifying? ;)Yes, I agree with you there... meat has always been given with qualifiers... and a "you may" BUT it is not the ideal thing to do...for example.... eating manna was not satisfying to the Israelites...Exodus 16:3 And the children of Israel said unto them, Would to God we had died by the hand of the LORD in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh pots, and when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger.The Lord did respond with a "you may"....only to satisfy the murmurings though...Exodus 16:8
And Moses said, This shall be, when the LORD shall give you in the evening flesh to eat, and in the morning bread to the full; for that the LORD heareth your murmurings which ye murmur against him: and what are we? your murmurings are not against us, but against the LORD.Hopefully we will be happy with the bread and water, that will be sure... in the last days.... without murmuring.
Sephania
15th March 2005, 02:01 PM
Hi visionary,
Hope this isn't too far off the UP. I was wondering what the "abomination" was that is referred to in this verse? Is it blood? And what does the mouse refer to?
Thanks
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I've always wondered about this too.
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