noisome and grievous sore

[visionary]

Rev 16:2

"And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image".

In the verse quote above, "noisome" is kakos, and "grievous" is poneros.

Greek has two words for "bad" or "evil": kakos ( κακος ) and poneros ( πονηρος )

Kakos is a more general term, covering almost all types of "bad" or "evil."

Poneros is more specific, primarily referencing someone who has a thoroughly corrupted character.

In general, we use kakos to describe things or people who are BEHAVING very badly or DOING evil. We use poneros to describe things or people who are thoroughly evil, with no redeeming qualities at all. They are are thoroughly corrupted in their characters.

So a person who gets upset because someone cut them off in traffic, and pulls a gun and kills them, is kakos. That was VERY bad behavior. But the person who does it because they just LOVE to kill people (like a serial killer), is poineros. They are thoroughly evil, with totally corrupted characters.

When used TOGETHER of PEOPLE, kakos usually indicates that action or behavior was very bad, and poneros indicates that the intent or character behind it was thoroughly evil.

When used together of THINGS, kakos indicates that the thing is very destructive or completely malignant, and poneros indicates it is "wickedly painful," implying that the pain is beyond the human capacity to endure it.
Thus, the sores were malignant and destructive (scarring and damaging the tissues), as well as so intensely painful that it would probably drive the people virtually insane from the agony.

[beej7]

:eek: Not anything to look forward to there, is it?:sick:


But Hallelujah! We are going to see our soon and coming KING!
:bow:

Beej

[Sephania]

Amein to that!

So Vis, do you think this has anything to do with the whole body or perhaps where this mark is placed? Could say something like where the mark or chip or whatever, start to fester and break out into a extreme type of flesh eating disease? This sounds worst than leprosy.

[visionary]

The questions go around and around in my mind....

How can the people with the mark be the only ones who suffer from this grievous sore unless it is the mark? Is the much talked about chip, after spending time under the skin, the one to cause a reaction, like a chemical breakdown? Has there been any studies as to how long can it stay under the skin without breakdown? What is this chip made up of that could cause such a bad reaction?

Why bad and evil in greek was translated to be noisome and grievous to begin with? Does this "poison" drive a person insane?

This "sore" does not sound like it will heal.

Can the chip be removed? In otherwords, can people who have the chip inserted, then change their mind and have it removed?

There is a study out on how to have it included in the vaccinations, without public knowledge. There is a study out on how implantation chips can be programmed to direct the brain, and they are presently experimenting where they have blind people inserted with it and are able to receive visual signals, and thus get a computer generated rendition of what they see. They are also working on other mind altering programing for "people who are mentally unstable/unsuitable for society". IF they do this along with the beast program which is growing in popularity as it can analysis vast amoung of information, which is isolated to the law enforcement at this time, and add to it other programs, then the beast can speak and truly "cause" all to worship the first beast....

The Beast


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