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Mea Culpa
12th February 2005, 12:12 AM
Hi!
I was wondering if anyone has been "kicked out" of their congregation, or if the have been asked to leave?
If you have been, what were the reasons?
Thanks!
hooverbranch
12th February 2005, 12:57 AM
I personally have not but I have witnessed it before and my church does follow through with church discipline. As seen in Mathew 18: 15-19.
Mea Culpa
20th February 2005, 02:46 AM
I personally have not but I have witnessed it before and my church does follow through with church discipline. As seen in Mathew 18: 15-19.
Church disipline I agree with. But I guess what I meant was more of people who felt led by God to leave, or people who stood up for the truth and were "kicked" out of church, or asked to leave, you know?
Thanks for your response, I am looking forward to more!
Lovesherald
20th February 2005, 02:48 AM
Well, we weren't exactly asked to leave but the gossipers of the church falsely claimed my mom had an affair with the preacher. After a while, we left the church.
New_Wineskin
20th February 2005, 09:07 AM
Hi!
I was wondering if anyone has been "kicked out" of their congregation, or if the have been asked to leave?
If you have been, what were the reasons?
Thanks!
I was close to being either disciplined or kicked out .
With the same group , they disolved because the leadership recognized that they went overboard in their "authority" . The group voted and decided to disolve .
Spoken•For
20th February 2005, 12:52 PM
I have been compelled by God to leave a church... but have not been kicked out.
Although there were times when I tried to stand up for truth that the 'authorities' in the church were getting upset... but oh well... God moved me out before they had the chance. :D
Echad
20th February 2005, 01:01 PM
Go to the Messianic Judaism forum and ask this question?
http://www.christianforums.com/f34-messianic-judaism.html
MbiaJc
20th February 2005, 09:15 PM
Hi!
I was wondering if anyone has been "kicked out" of their congregation, or if the have been asked to leave?
If you have been, what were the reasons?
Thanks!
I have not been kicked out of a Church, however I have been led of the Lord to leave two. Because my work there was over. The leaders of these Churches would have liked to kick me out if they could have found anything against me that would have held up. The first Church one of the deacons accused me of teaching false doctrine(not formally), which he couldn't prove, because he was the one teaching things not so.
The second one nobody accused me of false teaching. They were preacher lovers and couldn't take the truth.
Regardles whether you are kicked out or not. If God gives you something to teach and the Bible plainly teacher what you think God has given you. Then don't let anyone silence you even if it is against denomination teaching, if the doenmination teaching is not the truth.
I do not teach denomination teaching if it is not backed up by Bible. Stick with teaching the Bible and you can't go wrong.
MbiaJc
20th February 2005, 09:18 PM
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Mea Culpa
22nd February 2005, 09:03 PM
The thing is,
There is such a fine line between standing up for Truth, and doing what is right, and standing up to do what you want because people are not letting you do it.
In other words, it is a fine line between obedience to Christ and selfishness when you leave a church.
I think that if you don't agree with the leadership, if you don't agree with the teachings, you should bring it up with those leaders. Then if they don't agree with you, or you don't have His peace to continue there, then you should consider leaving.
I asked that my membership be revoked because I don't agree with the teachings a lot of the time. But I did it because I don't agree with the Societys Act, and how it sutlely causes the church to be led by the governement, instead of the word of God.
I also don't agree with denominationalism. Still, at this time, I feel peace about staying in the congregation. I did leave for a time, but right now a family there lost a son, and they need love. So I feel led to just stay, to rest, and to minister.
We always have to remember to do all things in love. Love, however, is not always warm and fuzzy. When Christ kicked the moneychangers out of the temple, He did it out of love and obedience to His Father. Love is not always playing nice.
Mea Culpa
22nd February 2005, 09:04 PM
Go to the Messianic Judaism forum and ask this question?
http://www.christianforums.com/f34-messianic-judaism.html
ok!:)
New_Wineskin
22nd February 2005, 09:25 PM
I won't be "kicked out" of a group again as I won't be a "member" of a group again . Now , they may ask me not to come around anymore . And , that would be their right . But , they can only "kick out" ( as is being used here ) people who are members .
symphonyb
23rd February 2005, 07:05 PM
:thumbsup: this is where im at right now. i don't belong to any church,i go to wherever if i need to attend for reasons only me and God talk about but I won't give my entire self to any one church ever again. Im on my own with God. My heart was broke apart by a church and I feel "churches" some mind you are hyprocritical. :sigh: they do damage when run by unGodly people.thats all im going to say right now as Im feeling that old anger :( I won't be "kicked out" of a group again as I won't be a "member" of a group again . Now , they may ask me not to come around anymore . And , that would be their right . But , they can only "kick out" ( as is being used here ) people who are members .
New_Wineskin
23rd February 2005, 08:16 PM
Yes . You *are* the Church - a part of the Church just as you are .
Galatians513
23rd February 2005, 10:06 PM
I have also never been kicked out, but I have left one because I no longer felt that I belonged there... the jury is still out on whether or not I should go back there though.
MbiaJc
23rd February 2005, 11:16 PM
I have also never been kicked out, but I have left one because I no longer felt that I belonged there... the jury is still out on whether or not I should go back there though.
Depends on why you left? If you left because you were teaching the truth and nobody listened or didn't care. I would say don't go back.
boilerblues
28th February 2005, 10:36 PM
I've come close to being kicked out due to church discipline. God changed me a lot, I'm now a house church leader in the same church.
As far as being forced out due to various differences, I have not. I think that issues like that need to be approached with a great deal of humility, while we have to stand up for Truth we also have to recognize the God ordained authority of an eldership. So if we differ with church leadership we need to make sure we know that their position is clearly against Scripture and we need to approach with that attitude that we want to see the church turn back to obedience to Scripture, not to prove the leaders are wrong. If they are able to show us, based on Scripture, that we are wrong we need to be prepared to humbly accept that.
I know of two instances that are similar to this somewhat. My dad was head trustee in the church and had to stand against the pastor who was not shepherding the church as he should. It was a long, ugly battle and at times my dad was afraid for his life (the pastor was former marine force recon). It ended when the pastor and his family disappeared one day, they left without telling anyone. It left the church in a really hard place, but God has been faithful to them.
Another instance was in my house church. A man older than me stated something in group discussion that was not Biblical and was dangerous enough that it needed correction right then and there. Soon afterward it became very apparent that he was angry over being corrected. We showed him that what he said did not line up with Scripture, but he refused to accept that. He became consumed with anger and ended up leaving the house church. He is still angry over it and other things. His pride and anger have consumed him. What we corrected him about was really not that huge of a deal, but it did need correction. If he was willing to admit that he was wrong, because what he claimed did not agree with Scripture, then it wouldn't have been a big deal. Pride and anger can destroy a person.
We must be careful to approach disagreements with humility because we might be wrong. Elders are God's ordained authority for a church and to go against God's ordained authority is to go against Him. If they are wrong that needs to be approached, but we must also humbly realize that we could be wrong also.
Telrunya
1st March 2005, 02:42 AM
:thumbsup: this is where im at right now. i don't belong to any church,i go to wherever if i need to attend for reasons only me and God talk about but I won't give my entire self to any one church ever again. Im on my own with God. My heart was broke apart by a church and I feel "churches" some mind you are hyprocritical. :sigh: they do damage when run by unGodly people.thats all im going to say right now as Im feeling that old anger :(
I hear alot of these statements and it makes me very sad. I belong to a church and am happy to serve in that church. We are a family and help each other out as much as we are able. My last church was the same way and I would still be there if my job hadn't made me move. There are many churches like these out there. You just have to look for them. Are you greeted when you enter? Do they recognize you as a new visitor? Is the greeting a superficial "Hello and welcome to our church" or do they try and get to know you? These are the type of things to look for. Also when church shopping I kinda dress down to see how I am recieved and reguarded by even those ewho don't greet me. I shopped 12 churches before settling on the one I now call home. It was the first one I checked out and it met all my criteria the first time I went there except it seemed to be mainly older people there and very few children. Since I have 3 under the age of 5 that is important to me. It wasn't until I had checked out all the other churches did someone tell me that the second service was packed with people my age who had kids. I went backa second time to the second service and it was EXACTLY what I had been looking for. I hope and pray that you will not turn your mind away from the idea of finding and belonging to such a church
HephzibahBenJudah
1st November 2006, 05:55 AM
I have been compelled by God to leave a church... but have not been kicked out.
Although there were times when I tried to stand up for truth that the 'authorities' in the church were getting upset... but oh well... God moved me out before they had the chance. :D
The thing is,
There is such a fine line between standing up for Truth, and doing what is right, and standing up to do what you want because people are not letting you do it.
In other words, it is a fine line between obedience to Christ and selfishness when you leave a church.
I think that if you don't agree with the leadership, if you don't agree with the teachings, you should bring it up with those leaders. Then if they don't agree with you, or you don't have His peace to continue there, then you should consider leaving.
I asked that my membership be revoked because I don't agree with the teachings a lot of the time. But I did it because I don't agree with the Societys Act, and how it sutlely causes the church to be led by the governement, instead of the word of God.
I also don't agree with denominationalism. Still, at this time, I feel peace about staying in the congregation. I did leave for a time, but right now a family there lost a son, and they need love. So I feel led to just stay, to rest, and to minister.
We always have to remember to do all things in love. Love, however, is not always warm and fuzzy. When Christ kicked the moneychangers out of the temple, He did it out of love and obedience to His Father. Love is not always playing nice.
Amen. I've moved to another church but not been asked to leave.
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