highly offensive and infuriating statue in fremont, seattle, wa

[Moros]

Yep, it's who you think it is. Some jerk imported it from Slovakia in the late 80's.

http://www.see-seattle.com/odyssey-lenin.jpg


http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/wa/WASEAlenin05.jpg

[Maximus]

Disgraceful!

[Hoonbaba]

ok...I'm ignorant...what's this all about? Just curious, that's all

[Maximus]

That's a statue of Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, aka Lenin.

You know, leader of the godless Bolshevik Revolution, persecutor and murderer of Christians, including Czar Nicholas II and his family.

[Hoonbaba]

oh my gosh....

I feel retarded..

[ExOrienteLux]

Take a sledgehammer to it. Now. Maybe a blowtorch.

[Maximus]

oh my gosh....

I feel retarded..

You needn't feel that way.

I recognized the statue right away, for one thing, because I lived in Russia for a short while and saw about a zillion of those monstrosities in person.

Yes, they're still there, especially out in the backwaters, where folks don't have the money to get rid of them and some of the old fart die-hard reds would get upset if they tried.

In my wife's hometown of Volgograd (the former Stalingrad), I counted 9 large statues of Lenin, and a big statue of Felix Dzerzhinsky outside the police station.

Dzerzhinsky was the head of Lenin's political police, the dreaded Cheka.

[Hoonbaba]

wow....so it must've been a lot like seeing pictures or statues of Kim Il Sung or Kim Jong Il in N. Korea..... my gosh....horrible...

[ExOrienteLux]

While we're on this subject, anyone know where I can get any anti-Bolshevism/anti-communism merchandise?

[Sergius_Lucius]

Well, they can be useful. The steps to the Marx monument, opposite to the Bolshoi Theatre, are used today by skateboarders and bikers :D

[Michael the Iconographer]

Take a sledgehammer to it. Now. Maybe a blowtorch.

I'd like to have a picture of my dog Oliver lifting his leg on that statue!

[Michael the Iconographer]

oh my gosh....

I feel retarded..

Don't feel retarded. I recognized it instantly because I have a degree in Central European History and Russian History has alot to do with German History and thus I have studied quite a bit of it.

[prodromos]

I'd like to have a picture of my dog Oliver lifting his leg on that statue!
Photoshop is your friend ;)

[Matrona]

Ugh. I'd like to fly up to Washington so I can give that thing a fresh coat of spray paint...

Who owns the land it is on?

[stillerfan]

Ugh. I'd like to fly up to Washington so I can give that thing a fresh coat of spray paint...

Who owns the land it is on?

probably the same land where they don't allow the ten commandments being displayed, along with a nativity scene being taken down..... :mad:

[gtsecc]

Is that on Public land?

[Rilian]

I think it's on private land. It was in front of a bakery or an art gallery or something. I can see a piece of the Taco Del Mar sign in the corner of the picture.

Seattle is a very lefty city, and the area the statue is in (Fremont) even more so. Go to the Fremont market which is an outdoor flea market on the weekends and you can find tie dye t-shirts, bong accessories, and the like. I think you get the idea. I would take it seriously, but I believe the people who pass the statue of Satan, er uh I mean Lenin, have no idea what he is all about.

[Matrona]

While we're on this subject, anyone know where I can get any anti-Bolshevism/anti-communism merchandise?

I have looked for it (I'm desperate to find an anti-communist tshirt to wear to my History class), but most of the anti-communist organizations still around are seriously anti-semitic.

[Matrona]

I think it's on private land. It was in front of a bakery or an art gallery or something. I can see a piece of the Taco Del Mar sign in the corner of the picture.

Okay. I am just wondering whose lawyers are going to be chasing me after I cut that thing's head off... :D

[gord96]

not sure why they would have a statue like that in Noth America...wierd.....I don't agree with it at all.....but really this is a secular world.......don't be suprised if this kind of stuff happens......

[ufonium2]

but really this is a secular world.......don't be suprised if this kind of stuff happens......

But Lenin wasn't merely secular. He was an atheist, and a militant one at that. Secular people just don't care about the spiritual world. Atheists are actively opposed to the idea of a spiritual world. Atheism was just as much a religion to Lenin as Christianity is to us. He killed Christians just for being Christians. By contrast, that nice agnostic lady down the street probably wouldn't kill anybody for any reason, much less because they disagreed with her religious beliefs.

So, I agree that it's by and large a secular world, but I wouldn't consider Lenin to be a secular person.

[Wiffey]

I hate Communism.

But there is something about the juxtaposition of Lenin boldly striding towards....Taco Del Mar, that made me giggle for a moment. Poor Vlad, exiled in a capitalist land with nothing to console him but a "taco of the sea"...:yum:


My sense of humor is sick, I'm sorry...

[gord96]

But Lenin wasn't merely secular. He was an atheist, and a militant one at that. Secular people just don't care about the spiritual world. Atheists are actively opposed to the idea of a spiritual world. Atheism was just as much a religion to Lenin as Christianity is to us. He killed Christians just for being Christians. By contrast, that nice agnostic lady down the street probably wouldn't kill anybody for any reason, much less because they disagreed with her religious beliefs.

So, I agree that it's by and large a secular world, but I wouldn't consider Lenin to be a secular person.

i see what your saying and I agree......what I meant was that stuff like this will happen in this world....we are not of this world and must not let it get to us....i know that the Orthodox Christian faith suffered greatly under communism and that is a terrible thing.....but it is important to remember that justice will be served in the end....

[Rilian]

Poor Vlad, exiled in a capitalist land with nothing to console him but a "taco of the sea"

I think it is a fitting place for him, in front of a sign with a fish with a big moustache wearing a sombrero.

[Marjorie]

i see what your saying and I agree......what I meant was that stuff like this will happen in this world....we are not of this world and must not let it get to us....i know that the Orthodox Christian faith suffered greatly under communism and that is a terrible thing.....but it is important to remember that justice will be served in the end....

Amen.

In IC XC,
Marjorie

[Maximus]

But Lenin wasn't merely secular. He was an atheist, and a militant one at that. Secular people just don't care about the spiritual world. Atheists are actively opposed to the idea of a spiritual world. Atheism was just as much a religion to Lenin as Christianity is to us. He killed Christians just for being Christians. By contrast, that nice agnostic lady down the street probably wouldn't kill anybody for any reason, much less because they disagreed with her religious beliefs.

So, I agree that it's by and large a secular world, but I wouldn't consider Lenin to be a secular person.

Not only was Lenin an atheist, he was an apostate, since he was baptized Orthodox.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Photoshop is your friend ;)

YES! I may end up pulling out photoshop once I get my main computer back up and running and superimpose a picture of Oliver lifting his leg on that photo. If I do, I will make sure to post it!

[elizabethevangeline]

Is it my imagination or does it look like he peed his pants?

[Michael the Iconographer]

Is it my imagination or does it look like he peed his pants?

I did not notice it at first, but yes it does look like he peed his pants! :D :D :D

[stillerfan]

http://img115.exs.cx/img115/7404/yes2bb.gif http://img116.exs.cx/img116/1231/z7shysterical.gif

[Lady_Firehawk]

ROFL!!! Hehehe... I live in Washington, and fairly close to Seattle, actually. I'll go spraypaint it for ya! ;) (LOL, j/k, don't wanna get caught doing anything illegal! ;) )

But I'd looove to see a Photoshopped pic... :D