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gitlance
9th February 2005, 05:42 PM
Hey guys,

I just found a book in the library that I'm going to start reading. It just may solve all our concerns and answer all our questions about Succession in the "American Catholic Church, commonly called the Episcopal Church."

Hehehe.... sounds really good. Goes back to the Apostles and shows us our link to the originial apostolic succession!

gtsecc
9th February 2005, 06:58 PM
Doesn't Anglican Succession go back through both Orthodox and Roman catholic lines?

benedictine
9th February 2005, 10:15 PM
I'm not sure...

pastel
9th February 2005, 11:00 PM
I have recently become interested in the apostolic succession, and exactly what it means. :)

Perhaps a good book is in order for this. :thumbsup:

Colabomb
10th February 2005, 11:05 AM
Doesn't Anglican Succession go back through both Orthodox and Roman catholic lines?
I think we have a bit of the big three, Roman Catholic, Old Catholic and Eastern Orthodox.

Brian Augustyn
10th February 2005, 11:36 AM
I think we have a bit of the big three, Roman Catholic, Old Catholic and Eastern Orthodox.

Since the Church of England began with a break from the Roman Catholic Church, and since all but one of the bishops of the Henry's time moved with the break, I am reasonably certain that the church traces its claims to succession through the RCC.

There may well be other "strains" in there as well, but the primary succession is through that previous affiliation with Rome.

It is for this reason that the RC dispute the valid succession in Anglican orders, by the way. Since all of the bishops who participated in ordinations from the time of the split were considered schismatic (by Rome) and thus no longer truly bishops, they no longer carried the Apostolic connection.

But then, they would say that. :)

Brian

pmcleanj
10th February 2005, 11:58 AM
Doesn't Anglican Succession go back through both Orthodox and Roman catholic lines?
And even through the Anglican lines.

Polycarp1
10th February 2005, 12:25 PM
Yes, through both Eastern and Western lines. Theodore of Tarsus (http://www.satucket.com/lectionary/Theodore_Tarsus.htm) traced his lineage back through Polycarp of Smyrna and John the Beloved Disciple.

pmcleanj
10th February 2005, 12:31 PM
Yes, through both Eastern and Western lines. Theodore of Tarsus (http://www.satucket.com/lectionary/Theodore_Tarsus.htm) traced his lineage back through Polycarp of Smyrna and John the Beloved Disciple.
A nice bit of symmetry there, since Theodore was appointed by the bishop of Rome, but traced his succession to Saint John, who is said in the oral tradition of the Isles to have been the Apostle who first sent missionaries to the isles

masuwerte
10th February 2005, 10:53 PM
Since the Church of England began with a break from the Roman Catholic Church, and since all but one of the bishops of the Henry's time moved with the break, I am reasonably certain that the church traces its claims to succession through the RCC.

There may well be other "strains" in there as well, but the primary succession is through that previous affiliation with Rome.

It is for this reason that the RC dispute the valid succession in Anglican orders, by the way. Since all of the bishops who participated in ordinations from the time of the split were considered schismatic (by Rome) and thus no longer truly bishops, they no longer carried the Apostolic connection.

But then, they would say that. :)

Brian

But they only started saying that in 1893, right? What about before then?