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ydouxist
6th February 2005, 02:57 PM
That's not what it's all about.
Lord help me to love my neighbor as myself. Let me see them as You see them.
It's not about me Lord it's about You. All my righteousness is as filthy rags.
You alone are worthy Lord.
1Cr 13:1-7 If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
If I have {the gift of} prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
And if I give all my possessions to feed {the poor,} and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind {and} is not jealous; love does not brag {and} is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong {suffered,} does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
May I only post what is done in love. :amen:
Lutherrunner
6th February 2005, 03:56 PM
Thanks Bro....peace be with you.....
ydouxist
6th February 2005, 04:16 PM
Thanks Bro....peace be with you.....
And also with you.
VioletAngel
6th February 2005, 05:22 PM
I like Romans 14 too.
Jim Woodell
6th February 2005, 07:46 PM
That's not what it's all about.
Lord help me to love my neighbor as myself. Let me see them as You see them.
It's not about me Lord it's about You. All my righteousness is as filthy rags.
You alone are worthy Lord.
1Cr 13:1-7 If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
If I have {the gift of} prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
And if I give all my possessions to feed {the poor,} and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind {and} is not jealous; love does not brag {and} is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong {suffered,} does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
May I only post what is done in love. :amen:
Does this mean love is essential for salvation??
Can the truth be spoken in love??
Are you suggesting by your post, that honest, loving Christians should not post their differences of understanding with other honest, loving Christians??
ydouxist
6th February 2005, 08:49 PM
Does this mean love is essential for salvation??
Can the truth be spoken in love??
Are you suggesting by your post, that honest, loving Christians should not post their differences of understanding with other honest, loving Christians??
.:kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:
Jim Woodell
7th February 2005, 01:11 AM
.:kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:
I invite the observers of this post to go back to the question that originated with the author.
What you are observing is an answer to the question he raised.:thumbsup:
- DRA -
7th February 2005, 03:29 PM
I am right and they were wrong
That's not what it's all about.
Lord help me to love my neighbor as myself. Let me see them as You see them.
It's not about me Lord it's about You. All my righteousness is as filthy rags.
You alone are worthy Lord.
1Cr 13:1-7 If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
If I have {the gift of} prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
And if I give all my possessions to feed {the poor,} and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind {and} is not jealous; love does not brag {and} is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong {suffered,} does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
May I only post what is done in love. :amen:
God's love for mankind was shown through the giving of His only begotten Son(John 3:16).
God's people today are admonished to realize the importance of the love that must be a part of their lives. The passage that you posted from 1 Cor. 13 dicusses how this love should be displayed in the life of a Christian. Thanks for posting this passage.
Therefore, if we love someone, then we shouldn't ever point out things that they misunderstand or doctrines that they hold which are not in harmony with God's word, right? We don't say anything because love is supposed to work that way, right? Is this the overall message that we get from studying about love from the Lord and His apostles?
Consider Matthew chapter 23 in light of John 3:16. Jesus loved those Jews, but harshly rebuked the stance that they took as they opposed Him, what He taught, and the works that He performed. Later, the apostle Peter charged the Jews with the murder of Jesus (Acts 2:22-23; 3:13-15). Two things that the apostle Paul wrote are also relevant to this discussion:
1.) 2 Timothy 1:7 says, "For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a soud mind."
2.) 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says, "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work" (NKJV).
So, the issue at hand is how Paul displayed his spirit of love when he reproved and corrected people who were not in step with the gospel of our Lord.
Consider: the homosexual community today claims that we don't love them if passages such as Rom. 1:18-32 and 1 Cor. 6:9-10 are offered for consideration. Likewise, the faith only crowd voices objections of legalism and intolerance if passages such as Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, Rom. 6:3-11, or James 2:14-26 are offered. Generally speaking, the discussions become more intense if one side does not yield to an "I'm okay, you're okay" mentality. The truth of the matter is that God simply doesn't approve of all things. That is where a passage such as 1 Cor. 6:11 comes into play. Paul writes, "And such were some of you." The point? Paul had taught that certain things simply weren't acceptable to God. The Corinthians had been doing some of the things that Paul had just previously discussed in verses 9-10, but they stopped doing those things when they were washed, sanctified, and justified in Christ. So, did Paul show his love for those people by withholding the truth from them, or did he show his love for them by telling them the truth?
Rather than accept error, God's people must not stand united with those who teach contrary to truth (2 John 9-11).
There is one measure of love that is overlooked today -- Jesus said, "He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me" (John 14:23).
tomedward
7th February 2005, 10:15 PM
God's love for mankind was shown through the giving of His only begotten Son(John 3:16).
God's people today are admonished to realize the importance of the love that must be a part of their lives. The passage that you posted from 1 Cor. 13 dicusses how this love should be displayed in the life of a Christian. Thanks for posting this passage.
Therefore, if we love someone, then we shouldn't ever point out things that they misunderstand or doctrines that they hold which are not in harmony with God's word, right? We don't say anything because love is supposed to work that way, right? Is this the overall message that we get from studying about love from the Lord and His apostles?
Consider Matthew chapter 23 in light of John 3:16. Jesus loved those Jews, but harshly rebuked the stance that they took as they opposed Him, what He taught, and the works that He performed. Later, the apostle Peter charged the Jews with the murder of Jesus (Acts 2:22-23; 3:13-15). Two things that the apostle Paul wrote are also relevant to this discussion:
1.) 2 Timothy 1:7 says, "For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a soud mind."
2.) 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says, "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work" (NKJV).
So, the issue at hand is how Paul displayed his spirit of love when he reproved and corrected people who were not in step with the gospel of our Lord.
Consider: the homosexual community today claims that we don't love them if passages such as Rom. 1:18-32 and 1 Cor. 6:9-10 are offered for consideration. Likewise, the faith only crowd voices objections of legalism and intolerance if passages such as Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, Rom. 6:3-11, or James 2:14-26 are offered. Generally speaking, the discussions become more intense if one side does not yield to an "I'm okay, you're okay" mentality. The truth of the matter is that God simply doesn't approve of all things. That is where a passage such as 1 Cor. 6:11 comes into play. Paul writes, "And such were some of you." The point? Paul had taught that certain things simply weren't acceptable to God. The Corinthians had been doing some of the things that Paul had just previously discussed in verses 9-10, but they stopped doing those things when they were washed, sanctified, and justified in Christ. So, did Paul show his love for those people by withholding the truth from them, or did he show his love for them by telling them the truth?
Rather than accept error, God's people must not stand united with those who teach contrary to truth (2 John 9-11).
There is one measure of love that is overlooked today -- Jesus said, "He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me" (John 14:23).
Excellent Post Brother !
ydouxist
8th February 2005, 01:58 AM
Love covers a multitude of sins.
I have a customer who is a lesbian. She came in today as a matter of fact. She once asked me if I thought homosexuality was wrong. I told her yes and why.
I wasn't judgemental with her. I did this in love. After our talk, her response was, "that's what I thought you would say." I didn't have to initiate our conversation.
People know they are sinners. They really do.
What do people do when they feel threatened?
They get defensive. How do you fight love?
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