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WesWoodell
5th February 2005, 03:49 PM
What does Scripture say?
Lynn73
5th February 2005, 04:46 PM
What does Scripture say?
I think He forgives our sins when we ask Him too, and are really repentent. If we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9
heartnsoul
5th February 2005, 05:43 PM
I agree. :thumbsup: True repentance from a sinner is what brings forgiveness from God.
Tavita
5th February 2005, 10:35 PM
A person's sins have been forgiven at the point of Jesus' death on the cross, and now we appropriate that forgiveness through repentance and faith.
Through the ritual of temple sacrifice, which was a system of ritual put in place by God, pointing to Messiah's sacrifice, forgiveness was still appropriated through repentance and faith.
Even here, it was by faith..
(Luk 5:20) Seeing their faith, He said, "Friend, your sins are forgiven you."
(Luk 5:21) The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who is this man who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?"
(Luk 5:22) But Jesus, aware of their reasonings, answered and said to them, "Why are you reasoning in your hearts?
(Luk 5:23) "Which is easier, to say, 'Your sins have been forgiven you,' or to say, 'Get up and walk'?
New_Wineskin
6th February 2005, 11:37 AM
A person's sins have been forgiven at the point of Jesus' death on the cross, and now we appropriate that forgiveness through repentance and faith.
Through the ritual of temple sacrifice, which was a system of ritual put in place by God, pointing to Messiah's sacrifice, forgiveness was still appropriated through repentance and faith.
Even here, it was by faith..
(Luk 5:20) Seeing their faith, He said, "Friend, your sins are forgiven you."
(Luk 5:21) The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who is this man who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?"
(Luk 5:22) But Jesus, aware of their reasonings, answered and said to them, "Why are you reasoning in your hearts?
(Luk 5:23) "Which is easier, to say, 'Your sins have been forgiven you,' or to say, 'Get up and walk'?
Good post . I agree . :)
GL2814
6th February 2005, 06:59 PM
A person is forgiven when they accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. God places His Spirit in the person as a seal of ownership as a deposit gurantening the things that are to come.
Lynn73
6th February 2005, 08:12 PM
A person's sins have been forgiven at the point of Jesus' death on the cross, and now we appropriate that forgiveness through repentance and faith.
Through the ritual of temple sacrifice, which was a system of ritual put in place by God, pointing to Messiah's sacrifice, forgiveness was still appropriated through repentance and faith.
Even here, it was by faith..
(Luk 5:20) Seeing their faith, He said, "Friend, your sins are forgiven you."
(Luk 5:21) The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who is this man who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?"
(Luk 5:22) But Jesus, aware of their reasonings, answered and said to them, "Why are you reasoning in your hearts?
(Luk 5:23) "Which is easier, to say, 'Your sins have been forgiven you,' or to say, 'Get up and walk'?
True, we wouldn't be able to ask for and receive forgiveness without Christ's sacrifice.
Stinker
6th February 2005, 08:53 PM
Obviously a non-Christian's past sins are forgiven when they have repented (Acts 17:30) confessed Christ (Rom.10:9,10) then are baptized into Christ (Gal 3:27) where their sins are washed away in Christ's blood (Eph.1:7) (Rom.8:1).
After one has been baptized into Christ, and needs forgiveness for sins afterward, they repent of these sins and ask for God's forgiveness. (1 Jn.1:9)
WesWoodell
7th February 2005, 12:18 PM
For those of you who aren't providing Scripture for your answers, please do so (or don't post). Thank you to those who are.
heartnsoul
7th February 2005, 03:36 PM
For those of you who aren't providing Scripture for your answers, please do so (or don't post). Thank you to those who are.
OUCH! That wasn't a very kind comment you made. To my understanding, all threads are welcome for everyone to respond. I pray that God opens your heart to be more accepting and loving towards others. :sigh:
jsfrk2
7th February 2005, 07:14 PM
Obviously a non-Christian's past sins are forgiven when they have repented (Acts 17:30) confessed Christ (Rom.10:9,10) then are baptized into Christ (Gal 3:27) where their sins are washed away in Christ's blood (Eph.1:7) (Rom.8:1).
After one has been baptized into Christ, and needs forgiveness for sins afterward, they repent of these sins and ask for God's forgiveness. (1 Jn.1:9)
I completely agree to this post and as a wise old man from my church said
" our bodies have not yet been redeemed, since we dont have our ressurected bodies yet, we war with our flesh and this is why it is difficult sometimes to do what is right, but only with Jesus this is possible"
1 Corinthians 15:39-49
39 All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. 48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.
with man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible
WesWoodell
7th February 2005, 07:17 PM
OUCH! That wasn't a very kind comment you made. To my understanding, all threads are welcome for everyone to respond. I pray that God opens your heart to be more accepting and loving towards others. :sigh:
I pray that you read the first post in the thread.
Knight
7th February 2005, 08:38 PM
Acts 3:19 ESV Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out,
Here you go......
heartnsoul
7th February 2005, 09:19 PM
Acts 3:19 ESV Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out,
Here you go......
Thank you brother Knight. You are a true friend!:)
talitha
20th February 2005, 12:40 AM
Here's another scripture to think about in this context.....
All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
hmmmm...... just trying to stir you up.......
blessings
tal
Knight
20th February 2005, 04:44 PM
Here's another scripture to think about in this context.....
All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
hmmmm...... just trying to stir you up.......
blessings
tal
Can you give the reference for that verse?
I hav no problem with that. But then I spend a lot of time in the Reformed area.... ;)
Kidding.
repoland2
20th February 2005, 05:01 PM
Repentance.
Is it enough to simply ask for forgivness of our sins? or do you believe that we should play an active role to fight against temptations of sin for our own good?
talitha
20th February 2005, 05:14 PM
Knight -- Revelation 13:8 ------ reformed?? ?? ?? ?? ??
bless you
tal
- DRA -
21st February 2005, 04:15 PM
OUCH! That wasn't a very kind comment you made. To my understanding, all threads are welcome for everyone to respond. I pray that God opens your heart to be more accepting and loving towards others. :sigh:
1 Pet. 4:11a says, "If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God."
Rom. 10:17 says, "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
The threads are indeed open for responses. However, be sure that you don't overlook the "Lord's rule" about such things. Think of it this way, how does He receive any glory, credit, or respect if we don't seek to solely determine what the Lord says about the topic under discussion. Frankly, Wes' opinion, your opinion, or my opinion are absolutely worthless when it comes to spiritual matters. What God says is what matters. Can we agree on this point?
DarkGalaxy
21st February 2005, 07:13 PM
Matthew 6:12 - "And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors."
We are forgiven when we have forgiven others. If we do not do this, then God will not forgive us.
Forgiveness
Matthew 18:21-22 - "Then Peter came and said to him, 'Lord, if another member of the church sins against me, how often should I forgive? As many as seven times?' 22 Jesus said to him, "Not seven times, but, I tell you, seventy-seven times."
Also see the parable of the unforgiving servant:
Matthew 18:23-35
WesWoodell
22nd February 2005, 02:38 AM
Thank you guys for the Scriptures so far. More are welcome - these will help with a Bible study on forgiveness in a few weeks. :)
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