Salvation Army?

[SaintGeorge]

I didn't know you all were an actual church, I thought you were just a general Christian Charity. Please, tell me a little about your denomination.

In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, may God bless you all. Amen.:crossrc:

[chaplainjared]

yes us salvos are churches.
Our churches are called corps. (prenounced cors)
Our pastors are called 'captains'
our members are called 'soldiers'
Salvo corps are all over the world

Its a little strange, but very funky also

[chaplainjared]

the 3rd biggest army in the world.
and the only one that has no guns!

[Stefania777]

the 3rd biggest army in the world.
and the only one that has no guns!
wooooooooooooooooooooooow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how cool is that! it reminds me of Ephisians 6:10-18

[chickette]

Yeh, but we have swords and they are deadly!!!!

[Stefania777]

why do you have deadly swords?

[chickette]

The sword is one of God's weapons. Its the word of God, The Bible. And it is a deadly weapon against the devil.
It's from Ephesians 6:10-18.

[Abiel]

And you should see us with tambourines!!!

[Abiel]

I didn't know you all were an actual church, I thought you were just a general Christian Charity. Please, tell me a little about your denomination.

In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, may God bless you all. Amen.:crossrc:


This link may help you.

http://www1.salvationarmy.org/

[Stefania777]

And you should see us with tambourines!!!

I go to a pentacostal church called "first assembly of God" it's a pretty fun church, we do the tambourines too, well, only a few people who get really into it. I don't have one, but I have a little egg shaker thing, it's fun!

[Stefania777]

The sword is one of God's weapons. Its the word of God, The Bible. And it is a deadly weapon against the devil.
It's from Ephesians 6:10-18.

but Ephisians 6:10-18 talks about the spiritual armor. The way I see it all least, God is not talking about man made weapons, he wants us to use his word as a weapon against the devil. The way to put on the armor of God would be through prayer, and the way to put it into action would be through his word. How does the salvation army interprets Ephisians 6:10-18?

[Abiel]

but Ephisians 6:10-18 talks about the spiritual armor. The way I see it all least, God is not talking about man made weapons, he wants us to use his word as a weapon against the devil. The way to put on the armor of God would be through prayer, and the way to put it into action would be through his word. How does the salvation army interprets Ephisians 6:10-18?


The sword is the Bible. If you look at my avatar, you will see the crest of the Salvation Army. The dots are known as 'gospel shots' and represent the scripture that every Christian needs to know to defend themselves against the devil and the world. Back it the olden days, when Salvationists often were physically attacked for preaching Jesus out of doors, they would form a protective circle, and 'fire a volley' meaning they would shout out scripture to help them stay strong under persecution.

It must be remember that the military imagery of the Salvation Army is not worldly but biblical. It's one of the things that makes us who we are.

[chickette]

We don't really carry swords round with us......sorry if thats wat u were thinking.......and we gave u that impression.......some of us might carry Bibles round though.......

[chaplainjared]

And you should see us with tambourines!!!


ohhhh noooooooo!!!!

ive gotta say im not a fan of the tambourines. A little old fasioned and irrelevant i feel....:yum: :amen:

[Stefania777]

The sword is the Bible. If you look at my avatar, you will see the crest of the Salvation Army. The dots are known as 'gospel shots' and represent the scripture that every Christian needs to know to defend themselves against the devil and the world. Back it the olden days, when Salvationists often were physically attacked for preaching Jesus out of doors, they would form a protective circle, and 'fire a volley' meaning they would shout out scripture to help them stay strong under persecution.

It must be remember that the military imagery of the Salvation Army is not worldly but biblical. It's one of the things that makes us who we are.

ok:thumbsup: that's pretty much what I was thinking, but wasn't sure. Sounds really cool. Nothing cooler then a really active church

[Stefania777]

ohhhh noooooooo!!!!

ive gotta say im not a fan of the tambourines. A little old fasioned and irrelevant i feel....:yum: :amen:

uuuuuh?? percussionist here who loves the sound and the feel of the tambourine! lol, but I guess I could understand you have different taste.

[Stefania777]

We don't really carry swords round with us......sorry if thats wat u were thinking.......and we gave u that impression.......some of us might carry Bibles round though.......

OK, you answered my question in the simple form, thank you!:wave:

[TwinCrier]

I also didn't know SA was a denomination. I've always admired their stand and charity work. I am going to the website, but i also may read around here a bit to learn more.

[someone_else]

with the armour of God you should notice that the sowrd is the only 'attack" peice the rest are peices of protection. all we need to do to put it on is to ask God. eg pray it on. we build up and maintain each peice by reading the bible, praying and seeking God.

[elm0]

And for those that haven't done much study on swordplay, the sword is not only an offensive, but also a defensive weapon. What I'm getting at, is that in drawing a similarity between the sword and the Bible we must remember to use The Word to protect ourselves as well as to fight the enemy.

[Abiel]

And for those that haven't done much study on swordplay, the sword is not only an offensive, but also a defensive weapon. What I'm getting at, is that in drawing a similarity between the sword and the Bible we must remember to use The Word to protect ourselves as well as to fight the enemy.

Hence the gospel shots.

[Abiel]

ohhhh noooooooo!!!!

ive gotta say im not a fan of the tambourines. A little old fasioned and irrelevant i feel....:yum: :amen:


Not where I am...a valuable ministry tool for our mission at old folks homes, and also for little girls who just love to play.

[Andy Broadley]

I think the Timbrel group as we know it in Britain is probably one of those things which is unique to this country (I'm guessing here - I may be wrong).


Our Australian friends who do not rate the effectiveness of the tambourine as part of our armoury may well have never seen a well drilled timbrel brigade in action. It's an impressive sight.

[elm0]

We have timbrels, and in some places they are appreciated. Zimbabwe Salvation Army use them too, or at least the corps we visited while over there was using them.

[Andy Broadley]

I stand corrected (I did say I was guessing)

[elm0]

I'd love to see a British timbrel brigade, I think you guys are definitely more passionate about the timbrel.

[Andy Broadley]

We could form our own

[elm0]

Yeah, some of us sound (and look) better playing the timbrel over the internet. Without a webcam that is!

[Stefania777]

with the armour of God you should notice that the sowrd is the only 'attack" peice the rest are peices of protection. all we need to do to put it on is to ask God. eg pray it on. we build up and maintain each peice by reading the bible, praying and seeking God.
How often should we put on the armour of God?

[elm0]

How often do you take it off?

I believe we are called to continually be wearing the armour! We also need to be continually repairing our armour, because we are constantly being attacked.

Many people I know have suggested that 'putting on the armour' every morning is a good practice to get into. This doesn't mean that they ever remove it, just that a daily reminder that we are constantly at war can be helpful, and when best to remind yourself than first thing in the morning.

[Stefania777]

How often do you take it off?

I believe we are called to continually be wearing the armour! We also need to be continually repairing our armour, because we are constantly being attacked.

Many people I know have suggested that 'putting on the armour' every morning is a good practice to get into. This doesn't mean that they ever remove it, just that a daily reminder that we are constantly at war can be helpful, and when best to remind yourself than first thing in the morning.

This is pretty cool, I'm gonna try it;)

[chickette]

Yeh we did that as a cell group last year. I kinda forgot about it as I'm usually tired in the mornings....whoops!......But other people did it and they said it was really effective and a good reminder to themselves.

[elm0]

I'm trying to remember to do it every day, but my memory of late is pretty bad. I'm currently suffering from depression, and a good friend who has been through it suggested very strongly that I try, she said it helped her a lot.

[Andy Broadley]

Our Salvationist forefathers had a similer idea a hundred years or so ago. They not only had the spiritual symbolysm of putting on the armour, they also gave it physical expression. It was called the dawn prayer meeting.

[Stefania777]

kinda like prayer, I've made a habit of praying right before bed, its like natural now I don't even think about it. But I'm still working on starting my days off with prayer, and it's harder to make a habit out of that because I'm always running late in the morning.
But ya, Elmo, I've been fighting depression myself...for years, and I don't care what they say about the chemical imbalences....it's the work of the devil, constantly attacking your weak pionts. This armour thing does sound like like a great idea, I just have to remind myself to make a habit of it in the mornings lol.

[Lena75]

I think it's good a habit to get into as well. :)

[Stefania777]

that is a beautiful avator ForU

[Lena75]

that is a beautiful avator ForU Aw, thanks! :)

[Stefania777]

Aw, thanks! :)

You're welcome;) .

[Abiel]

Just had a thought. I know sometimes it can look like Salvos have a rather works oriented faith, but I know the hearts of Salvationists- they do it for Jesus, and I pray that when Jesus returns he will find us doing his work like in MAtthew 25.

[Stefania777]

salvation army people...I have a question.

He I am laughing at my sister because she's talking about little kids who are ghosts, and she believes in this stuff. I told her that little kids go to heaven, they don't wander around "confussed" of where they're sopposed to go.
What do you all think?

[Abiel]

I think there is no such thing as ghosts.

[Andy Broadley]

Hmmmmm....I gotta porblem with this one.

I'm a Christian, and as such I shouldn't believe in ghosts. Trouble is I've seen one, so how do I square the circle?

[Abiel]

Perhaps it wasn't a ghost.

[Stefania777]

Hmmmmm....I gotta porblem with this one.

I'm a Christian, and as such I shouldn't believe in ghosts. Trouble is I've seen one, so how do I square the circle?
I say it was a spirit, spirits exist. Also, there are such things a demons, and maybe they come to try to change your faith and beliefs....maybe

[Andy Broadley]

Without telling the story, and I don't think this is the right place for that, I can confirm that it was the ghost of an elderly ladies husband.

I take the line that there are a great many things that God has not yet made clear to us, and this is one of them.

[Abiel]

It is true that we 'look through the glass darkly' , and also that the human mind is a big mystery too. Dont think I would disagree with Stefania though. Quite right to tell the children that their 'spirits' aren't wandering children. I think I believe children go straight to heaven.

[Stefania777]

I'v actually seen a child in my room when we lived in another house. I was freaked out, but even though anyone would have thought that this child was a ghost, I chose not to think that way...because I know that there are many things out there that try to test our faith. So basically, if it isn't mentioned in the bible, there's no reason for me to believe in it.

[elm0]

I have seen and sensed 'things' many a time but, as Andy said, this isn't the place for sharing it. My thinking on this whole area is that there is a great deal that we don't know about the spiritual realm.

[Stefania777]

I have seen and sensed 'things' many a time but, as Andy said, this isn't the place for sharing it. My thinking on this whole area is that there is a great deal that we don't know about the spiritual realm.
I can agree with that.

[Andy Broadley]

I didn't know you all were an actual church, I thought you were just a general Christian Charity. Please, tell me a little about your denomination.

In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, may God bless you all. Amen.:crossrc:

We seem to have digressed slightly. Perhaps we should head back towards the OP a little.

Any questions from non Salvationists, feel free to post here, and between us we'll do our best to answer them.

[Stefania777]

We seem to have digressed slightly. Perhaps we should head back towards the OP a little.

Any questions from non Salvationists, feel free to post here, and between us we'll do our best to answer them.
I'd like to have a question, because I'd love to learn more about this salvation army thing.
I'll think of a question.......................................................................
Are your beliefs based entirely on the bible?

[Evangelina]

I'd like to have a question, because I'd love to learn more about this salvation army thing.
I'll think of a question.......................................................................
Are your beliefs based entirely on the bible?

You tell me... :D

Doctrine of the Salvation Army

We believe that the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments were given by inspiration of God, and that they only constitute the Divine rule of Christian faith and practice.

We believe that there is only one God, who is infinitely perfect, the Creator, Preserver, and Governor of all things, and who is the only proper object of religious worship.

We believe that there are three persons in the Godhead - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, undivided in essence and co-equal in power and glory.

We believe that in the person of Jesus Christ the Divine and human natures are united, so that He is truly and properly God and truly and properly man.

We believe that our first parents were created in a state of innocency, but by their disobedience, they lost their purity and happiness, and that in consequence of their fall, all men have become sinners, totally depraved, and as such are justly exposed to the wrath of God.

We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ has by His suffering and death made an atonement for the whole world so that whosoever will may be saved.

We believe that repentance toward God, faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and regeneration by the Holy Spirit are necessary to salvation.

We believe that we are justified by grace through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and that he that believeth hath the witness in himself.

We believe that continuance in a state of salvation depends upon continued obedient faith in Christ.

We believe that it is the privilege of all believers to be wholly sanctified, and that their whole spirit and soul and body may be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

We believe in the immortality of the soul, the resurrection of the body, in the general judgement at the end of the world, in the eternal happiness of the righteous, and in the endless punishment of the wicked.

[Stefania777]

Wow, Amen, Amen and Amen I like the sound of that.:clap:

Just reading that feels good, I just love our father so much. Too many awesome religions out there, I can't really consider myself a member of just one.

[Andy Broadley]

We're all climbing the same mountain. Different ways up, but the same peak at the top.

[Truth1]

The Shield is a defender.



Be careful how you interpret the scripture. Who the "devil" is depends on ones perspective in the world.



Radical Islamists misinterpret their holy scripture and speak of killing the devil as well . . . its just in our case, the US occupiers are considered the devil.



Refer to your minister, rabbi, etc. and stop guessing because misinterpretation of Holy Scriptures cause wars, death and destruction.



Read the article and begin to think how different your interpretations are compared to those of other cultures and religions. Be a critical thinker and think only of love and life not hatred and death. God above all is Love!



US ARMY WEBSITE

Islamic Rulings On Warfare



Youssef H. Aboul-Enein and Sherifa Zuhur



October 2004



Foreward



The United States, no doubt, will be involved in the Middle East for many decades. To be sure, settling the Israeli-Palestinian dispute or alleviating poverty could help to stem the tides of Islamic radicalism and anti-American sentiment. But on an ideological level, we must confront a specific interpretation of Islamic law, history, and scripture that is a danger to both the United States and its allies. To win that ideological war, we must understand the sources of both Islamic radicalism and liberalism. We need to comprehend more thoroughly the ways in which militants misinterpret and pervert Islamic scripture. Al-Qaeda has produced its own group of spokespersons who attempt to provide religious legitimacy to the nihilism they preach. Many frequently quote from the Quran and hadith (the Prophet Muhammad's sayings and deeds) in a biased manner to draw justification for their cause.



Lieutenant Commander Youssef Aboul-Enein and Dr. Sherifa Zuhur delve into the Quran and hadith to articulate a means by which Islamic militancy can be countered ideologically, drawing many of their insights from these and other classical Islamic texts. In so doing, they expose contradictions and alternative approaches in the core principles that groups like al-Qaeda espouse. The authors have found that proper use of Islamic scripture actually discredits the tactics of al-Qaeda and other jihadist organizations. This monograph provides a basis for encouraging our Muslim allies to challenge the theology supported by Islamic militants. Seeds of doubt planted in the minds of suicide bombers might dissuade them from carrying out their missions. The Strategic Studies Institute is pleased to offer this study of Islamic rulings on warfare to the national defense community as an effort to contribute to the ongoing debate over how to defeat Islamic militancy.



--Douglas C. Lovelace Jr., director, Strategic Studies Institute