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ByzantineDixie
31st December 2004, 06:48 PM
OK...let's try this again. I will put my faith on the line with the expectation that we'll finish this project before I am no longer Lutheran! ;)

Please go to this link (http://bellsouthpwp.net/r/o/roseal4/CF%20TCCL%20FAQ.htm)and view all the FAQs we have accumulated to date. PM me or post here if you want to be the author or a reviewer for any of the questions. Remember...we have a lot of questions and only a few Lutherans so feel free to take as many as you think you can finish.

Once your FAQ is done...have it reviewed by your reviewer, if you have one, then send it to me and I will final format and post for final comment.

All FAQs will be posted under the user name Saint Martin Luther. I will provide the password to the authors in the event that changes or updates are needed in the future and the job truly is jinxed such that I leave the crystals waters of truth as found in Lutheranism for a trip East, a swim in the Tiber or a seat at the Compaq center in Houston! :P

Oh and feel free to send me or post any new FAQs you want to see on the list, too!

Thanks for all your help!

Peace

Rose

ChiRho
31st December 2004, 07:00 PM
Hey Rose,

I would like to review the Sacrament thread. Not that I dont trust Q, I just want to be in on those!

Pax

ChiRho
31st December 2004, 07:02 PM
I also will author the Theologian/ Theology section if that is ok?

ByzantineDixie
31st December 2004, 07:04 PM
Hey Rose,

I would like to review the Sacrament thread. Not that I dont trust Q, I just want to be in on those!

Pax
Sure...that would be GREAT...now which FAQs will you author?

Nothin' like high pressure, eh? Don't feel bad, I unilaterally assigned Recht eschatology and I am tempted to put you on BoC! :D -----R

ChiRho
31st December 2004, 07:05 PM
Sure...that would be GREAT...now which FAQs will you author?

Nothin' like high pressure, eh? Don't feel bad, I unilaterally assigned Recht eschatology and I am tempted to put you on BoC! :D -----R

beat ya!

ChiRho
31st December 2004, 07:06 PM
I have to go...I am late...Happy New Year! I'll be on tomorrow...if you want to assign me anything else, feel free. I am not in school this semester, so I need the work.

Pax

ByzantineDixie
31st December 2004, 07:09 PM
Happy New Year! Be safe!-----R :wave:

Jim47
31st December 2004, 09:14 PM
OK...let's try this again. I will put my faith on the line with the expectation that we'll finish this project before I am no longer Lutheran! ;)

Please go to this link (http://bellsouthpwp.net/r/o/roseal4/CF%20TCCL%20FAQ.htm)and view all the FAQs we have accumulated to date. PM me or post here if you want to be the author or a reviewer for any of the questions. Remember...we have a lot of questions and only a few Lutherans so feel free to take as many as you think you can finish.

Once your FAQ is done...have it reviewed by your reviewer, if you have one, then send it to me and I will final format and post for final comment.

All FAQs will be posted under the user name Saint Martin Luther. I will provide the password to the authors in the event that changes or updates are needed in the future and the job truly is jinxed such that I leave the crystals waters of truth as found in Lutheranism for a trip East, a swim in the Tiber or a seat at the Compaq center in Houston! :P

Oh and feel free to send me or post any new FAQs you want to see on the list, too!

Thanks for all your help!

Peace

Rose
I wished I could help, but I don't feel I am ready yet. I will say that I am looking forward to this and it should be a great learning event and even greater for discussion.

God be with you all for your faithfulness to The Word. :thumbsup:

ByzantineDixie
31st December 2004, 10:03 PM
I wished I could help, but I don't feel I am ready yet. I will say that I am looking forward to this and it should be a great learning event and even greater for discussion.

God be with you all for your faithfulness to The Word. :thumbsup:
I disagree...I think you can help. My husband started teaching middle school bible study and first year confirmation, not because he knew the material but because he wanted to learn the material. Many of the folks who will be contributing for the FAQ haven't been Lutheran very long at all. I may have been Lutheran on the roles for almost 15 years but I honestly didn't start studying until a little more than a year ago. Maybe there is a topic that interests you which you might like to research? I am certain your pastor would be a great resource, too and I am sure we can find a reviewer to help as well.

Anyway...think about it and get with me if you see a topic of special interest. Absolutely do not mean to apply any pressure...just wanted to give you an option in case the idea appeals to you. (That goes for anyone else as well! ;) )

:) Rose

Jim47
1st January 2005, 12:44 AM
Thanks for the special invite Rose, I'll think about it and let you know, but I feel more comfortable in waiting another year. There is still enough other work to do that I can serve in that way when I feel called.

Happy New Year! :wave:

ByzantineDixie
1st January 2005, 12:58 AM
Thanks for the special invite Rose, I'll think about it and let you know, but I feel more comfortable in waiting another year. There is still enough other work to do that I can serve in that way when I feel called.

Happy New Year! :wave:
That works for me. Thanks...and we'll give you a year but then watch out!!!

And to the rest of you...if I come off like a taskmaster...blame filo! :P

^_^ Rose

filosofer
1st January 2005, 02:03 AM
And to the rest of you...if I come off like a taskmaster...blame filo! :P

^_^ Rose

Who me? A kindly old, decript teddy bear? You let your imagination run wild. ;) :P

CrossWiseMag
1st January 2005, 03:30 AM
I'd be glad to lend a hand with any editing that might need to be done. It's sort of my "day job," so our FAQ should at least be free of spelling errors if I help in that way. ;)

I can eat 50 eggs
1st January 2005, 04:49 AM
I'll email this to theologica crucis, he has several of these already done.

ByzantineDixie
1st January 2005, 12:42 PM
I'd be glad to lend a hand with any editing that might need to be done. It's sort of my "day job," so our FAQ should at least be free of spelling errors if I help in that way. ;) Oooohhhh, excellent skill set to have! OK, CWM, you can be our official FAQ editor. BUT...have you given any thought to writing one or two of the answers? (pleading, prodding, shaming by guilt, whatever it takes! ;) ) We have some time to build this...if you are concerned about having enough time to put something together.

Think about it and let me know. You might even consider using a past Cross+Wise magazine article or two and crafting FAQs around them. Then your work would already be done!

Thanks much, editor! :hug:

Rose

SPALATIN
1st January 2005, 12:44 PM
Hey Rose,

Any room for something from me? Are you assigning articles as well or is it a volunteer system? I will also be happy to review what others have written and edit if need be.

Scott :)

ByzantineDixie
1st January 2005, 12:54 PM
Hey Rose,

Any room for something from me? Are you assigning articles as well or is it a volunteer system? I will also be happy to review what others have written and edit if need be.

Scott :)AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH! Ever since my son came home for the holidays, bandwidth has been a premium in this house. I just lost my last response!

Scott, have you looked at the FAQs (http://bellsouthpwp.net/r/o/roseal4/CF%20TCCL%20FAQ.htm)? I think there are several that you might enjoy doing. Look over the list and if you have trouble deciding...I can assign, too. :D As you wish! -----R

Rechtgläubig
1st January 2005, 12:57 PM
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH! Ever since my son came home for the holidays, bandwidth has been a premium in this house. I just lost my last response!

Scott, have you looked at the FAQs (http://bellsouthpwp.net/r/o/roseal4/CF%20TCCL%20FAQ.htm)? I think there are several that you might enjoy doing. Look over the list and if you have trouble deciding...I can assign, too. :D As you wish! -----R
Wow look at that, a fancy spreadsheet! :eek: Rose you totally rock! :thumbsup:

ByzantineDixie
1st January 2005, 12:59 PM
Wow look at that, a fancy spreadsheet! :eek: Rose you totally rock! :thumbsup:
Ya, some people have "real" skills (like CWM) and others like me just have Microsoft skills. :( :help: !

Rechtgläubig
1st January 2005, 01:04 PM
Ya, some people have "real" skills (like CWM) and others like me just have Microsoft skills. :( :help: !
And yet others are smart and know what "CWM" means. :P :confused:

ByzantineDixie
1st January 2005, 01:09 PM
And yet others are smart and know what "CWM" means. :P :confused:
Oh Recht, has it really been that long of a night for you! CWM=CrossWiseMag. That's OK...just an hour or so before you get to go home and get some sleep?

:) Rose

Rechtgläubig
1st January 2005, 01:16 PM
Oh Recht, has it really been that long of a night for you! CWM=CrossWiseMag. That's OK...just an hour or so before you get to go home and get some sleep?

:) Rose

:doh: Well that's why you're in charge. Yeah, sleep is good... soon very soon. Oops sorry for hijacking. :sorry:

We now return to your reguarly scheduled thread...

KagomeShuko
1st January 2005, 08:23 PM
Started one about "all those letters" and PMed it to people. It probably still needs some work. I'll leave that to your opinions.

I don't want to take any on as a sure thing, but if I get any done or started before I see that they are taken, I'll make sure I PM them again.

Stein Auf!
Bridget

ByzantineDixie
1st January 2005, 11:19 PM
Started one about "all those letters" and PMed it to people. It probably still needs some work. I'll leave that to your opinions.

I don't want to take any on as a sure thing, but if I get any done or started before I see that they are taken, I'll make sure I PM them again.

Stein Auf!
Bridget
That works great...it takes me two seconds to update the spreadsheet so I will make certain to keep it updated if you or anyone else sends me something and y'all can see which ones have not yet been claimed. Thanks-----R

Organist
1st January 2005, 11:21 PM
This all seems interesting, but I'm not at all sure what kind of FAQ you are trying to put together. :) I'll keep coming back to see what this is all about. (only because I'm nosy! ) :sorry:

filosofer
2nd January 2005, 12:39 AM
Rose, I can serve as reviewer of the Eschatology section (unless someone has already spoken for it).

See, being a nice taskmaster gets you rewards! ;) :wave:

OrthoCanuck
2nd January 2005, 12:46 AM
I'm interested in the project. For now I'll keep an eye on the thread and see what people want to do what. Just because I'm a relative newbie doesn't mean I'm ignorant about Lutheran theology. Also, what kind of format are the FAQs going to be in? Is there a sample FAQ that can be used as a template?

ByzantineDixie
2nd January 2005, 01:01 AM
Rose, I can serve as reviewer of the Eschatology section (unless someone has already spoken for it).Actually you were just the guy I was thinking of for that assignment! Thanks...I'll get you on the list!

I'm interested in the project. For now I'll keep an eye on the thread and see what people want to do what. Just because I'm a relative newbie doesn't mean I'm ignorant about Lutheran theology. Also, what kind of format are the FAQs going to be in? Is there a sample FAQ that can be used as a template?Oh Canada...you better believe you can help! Here is the link (http://bellsouthpwp.net/r/o/roseal4/CF%20TCCL%20FAQ.htm)to the questions we have so far...however, if you know of one that is not on the list and you would like to answer...have at it as well. If you find one or more FAQ questions on the list and want to tackle it...let me know and I'll put you down.

Good idea regarding an example...with multiple authors I don't believe we can expect to have a uniform look or feel but perhaps some kind of harmonization can be achieved. I can point you to one completed one (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=8539364&postcount=1)and one almost completed one (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=8536318&postcount=24)but I don't know that they are the best examples. The theology of the cross one is quite lengthy and generally an FAQ should strive to be succinct.

Thanks for any help you can provide!

:) Rose

OrthoCanuck
2nd January 2005, 01:16 AM
Oh Canada...you better believe you can help!

Thanks, I'm starting up at University again next week, so I'll have to keep an eye on my workload, but there are a couple things I might be interested in writing about (eg. Are Lutherans Catholic or Protestant?; "sin boldly") and perhaps reviewing (Book of Concord). And I'm sure I can come up with a question or two to add. This looks like fun (I'm one of those freaks who loves studying, discussing and writing about theology). I would like to also suggest a balanced approach to the FAQs and avoid one-sided answers. I think the answers to the FAQs should best illustrate what all Lutherans believe regardless of synod affiliation and if differences in belief are important to include then both sides should be included. For example, the Bible and the BoC are viewed slightly differently in the LCMS than the ELCA, etc.
Did I overstep my bounds in my opinions? I'm not exactly in charge of this project.

ByzantineDixie
2nd January 2005, 01:28 AM
Thanks, I'm starting up at University again next week, so I'll have to keep an eye on my workload, but there are a couple things I might be interested in writing about (eg. Are Lutherans Catholic or Protestant?; "sin boldly") and perhaps reviewing (Book of Concord).

Great, I'll put you down for these. If it looks like your workload is going to be too much to do them just let me know...this project runs on grace alone...and at the hand of a well trained taskmaster! :D

And I'm sure I can come up with a question or two to add. This looks like fun (I'm one of those freaks who loves studying, discussing and writing about theology).

Well you sure found the right place to hang out...there are a boat load of us church nerds here that have the same weird sense of fun!

I would like to also suggest a balanced approach to the FAQs and avoid one-sided answers. I think the answers to the FAQs should best illustrate what all Lutherans believe regardless of synod affiliation and if differences in belief are important to include then both sides should be included. For example, the Bible and the BoC are viewed slightly differently in the LCMS than the ELCA, etc.
Did I overstep my bounds in my opinions? I'm not exactly in charge of this project.Yes, this will be important. We will all have an opportunity to review each FAQ before it is finalized so the folks from the different synods can make certain their positions are included. OK? And since this is a grace driven project...no bounds were overstepped! Actually, no one is really in charge...this is a group effort and I am just the secretary and project cheerleader. :pink:

Thanks again!

Rose

ByzantineDixie
3rd January 2005, 10:06 AM
Bump....

Still looking for volunteers....:)

SPALATIN
3rd January 2005, 10:36 AM
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH! Ever since my son came home for the holidays, bandwidth has been a premium in this house. I just lost my last response!

Scott, have you looked at the FAQs (http://bellsouthpwp.net/r/o/roseal4/CF%20TCCL%20FAQ.htm)? I think there are several that you might enjoy doing. Look over the list and if you have trouble deciding...I can assign, too. :D As you wish! -----R
Ok You are going to have to help me out. Where are the FAQ's to look over? Do I have to go back quite a few pages of threads to find it?

Scott :scratch:

ChiRho
3rd January 2005, 10:46 AM
Ok You are going to have to help me out. Where are the FAQ's to look over? Do I have to go back quite a few pages of threads to find it?

Scott :scratch:


Scott,

I think she means the link that she posted. Click it and sign up.


Pax Christi,

ChiRho

SPALATIN
3rd January 2005, 10:57 AM
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH! Ever since my son came home for the holidays, bandwidth has been a premium in this house. I just lost my last response!

Scott, have you looked at the FAQs (http://bellsouthpwp.net/r/o/roseal4/CF%20TCCL%20FAQ.htm)? I think there are several that you might enjoy doing. Look over the list and if you have trouble deciding...I can assign, too. :D As you wish! -----R
Rose,

I will Review ChiRho's "What is meant by Law/Gospel" and will be happy to write the articles on Common Misconceptions and Misstatements about Luther that are not taken and will review the last one that Canadian75 is doing.

I will also try my hand at #5 in the differences between Lutheranism and other Christian denominations.

Scott:)

KagomeShuko
3rd January 2005, 12:53 PM
Well you sure found the right place to hang out...there are a boat load of us church nerds here that have the same weird sense of fun!

I am one self-identified church nerd! I have been for a LONG time!

Stein Auf!
Bridget

ByzantineDixie
3rd January 2005, 10:24 PM
Rose,

I will Review ChiRho's "What is meant by Law/Gospel" and will be happy to write the articles on Common Misconceptions and Misstatements about Luther that are not taken and will review the last one that Canadian75 is doing.

I will also try my hand at #5 in the differences between Lutheranism and other Christian denominations.

Scott:)
EXCELLENT Scotty, I put you down and THANKS!!!

:hug: Rose

theologia crucis
4th January 2005, 01:18 AM
Wow, according to the link, I've already got one completed and approved! Woohoo!

Actually, I would like to take a stab at the Lutheran view of tradition. And, I'd like to review the stuff on Luther (Scott's top two, maybe).

And like I mentioned in LL the other day, I think we need to have something on original sin and the doctrine of grace, and maybe the means of grace.

ChiRho
4th January 2005, 01:20 AM
Evangelical Catholic / Orthodox Lutheran

Nice!

ByzantineDixie
4th January 2005, 01:41 AM
Wow, according to the link, I've already got one completed and approved! Woohoo!

Actually, I would like to take a stab at the Lutheran view of tradition. And, I'd like to review the stuff on Luther (Scott's top two, maybe).

And like I mentioned in LL the other day, I think we need to have something on original sin and the doctrine of grace, and maybe the means of grace.
Cool! :cool: I'll add the three questions and put you down for what you indicated here! THANKS! :clap:

Nice!Evangelical Catholic / Orthodox Lutheran

Thanks...I stole the Evangelical Catholic from Canadian75 and almost stole Confessional Lutheran from you but had a brief moment of creativity. I am a good thief though, 'eh? :D

Peace

Rose

theologia crucis
6th January 2005, 01:35 AM
Quick question, how elaborate do we wanna get with these FAQ's?

Should we keep it as short as possible, wantin' folks to ask more questons, or go into greater detail so we don't have to answer as many?

Part of me hates having to ask questions over & over again, but part of me thinks we could get some good dialogue...

I can eat 50 eggs
6th January 2005, 02:24 AM
DON'T TELL THEOLOGICA TO DO A LONG DISCUSSION

his short usually runs 10 pages, his long stuff looks like an encyclopedia.

ByzantineDixie
6th January 2005, 10:11 AM
Quick question, how elaborate do we wanna get with these FAQ's?

Should we keep it as short as possible, wantin' folks to ask more questons, or go into greater detail so we don't have to answer as many?

Part of me hates having to ask questions over & over again, but part of me thinks we could get some good dialogue...

My vote is for not elaborate...short versions...leave open the options for questions. Cover the basics. I know it's hard for Lutherans to stop at just the basics cause we have so much 'splainin' to do! :D

Rose

SPALATIN
6th January 2005, 11:02 AM
My vote is for not elaborate...short versions...leave open the options for questions. Cover the basics. I know it's hard for Lutherans to stop at just the basics cause we have so much 'splainin' to do! :D

Rose

Rose,

That presents a problem for the 1st question I am answering about Luther revolting and leaving the Roman Catholic Church. I find it difficult to not elaborate here some since the answer does explain why we are Lutheran.

Scott

ByzantineDixie
6th January 2005, 10:27 PM
Rose,

That presents a problem for the 1st question I am answering about Luther revolting and leaving the Roman Catholic Church. I find it difficult to not elaborate here some since the answer does explain why we are Lutheran.

Scott

Scotty, for you there are no problems. (I only said make 'em short on account of Eggs' warning about Theo. ;) ) Really, if anyone wants to elaborate on their topic...please do. Better to have them long and done than to have nothing or short things that were not fun or challenging to construct. Remember...this is a grace driven project....except maybe for Theo. It depends. ;)

Theo :hug:

:D Rose

theologia crucis
7th January 2005, 01:57 AM
Hey now, what are you insinuating, Rose?! :scratch:

:D

SPALATIN
7th January 2005, 11:32 AM
Scotty, for you there are no problems. (I only said make 'em short on account of Eggs' warning about Theo. ;) ) Really, if anyone wants to elaborate on their topic...please do. Better to have them long and done than to have nothing or short things that were not fun or challenging to construct. Remember...this is a grace driven project....except maybe for Theo. It depends. ;)

Theo :hug:

:D Rose

Ok so limit it to less than an encyclopedia. But may just an encyclopedic short article.

theologia crucis
11th January 2005, 10:47 PM
ttt

Phoebe
18th January 2005, 10:04 AM
Is the 95 Theses included in this thread?

ByzantineDixie
18th January 2005, 10:08 AM
Nope...but it should be and it should be a fairly easy one to put together...thanks Phoebs. I have been meaning to bump this thread up to remind people anyway. Haven't received one single completed work yet!!!

How about those who have committed to something...have one thing done by the end of the month? Possible? Sure it is...log off and get to work!!! :P

Love y'all

Rose

SPALATIN
18th January 2005, 10:19 AM
Nope...but it should be and it should be a fairly easy one to put together...thanks Phoebs. I have been meaning to bump this thread up to remind people anyway. Haven't received one single completed work yet!!!

How about those who have committed to something...have one thing done by the end of the month? Possible? Sure it is...log off and get to work!!! :P

Love y'all

Rose

Just to let you know I submitted my first one to Theo about 2 wks ago. He sent it back with a few edits and additions. What do we do with it once it has been reviewed? Do we Email you with it?

KagomeShuko
18th January 2005, 06:59 PM
Nope...but it should be and it should be a fairly easy one to put together...thanks Phoebs. I have been meaning to bump this thread up to remind people anyway. Haven't received one single completed work yet!!!

How about those who have committed to something...have one thing done by the end of the month? Possible? Sure it is...log off and get to work!!! :P

Love y'all

Rose
Well, whoever is reviewing mine. . .I've not had anything sent back to me from some except, "looks fine" at first.

Stein Auf!
Bridget

ByzantineDixie
18th January 2005, 09:52 PM
Just to let you know I submitted my first one to Theo about 2 wks ago. He sent it back with a few edits and additions. What do we do with it once it has been reviewed? Do we Email you with it?

Well that's a good question. What I would like to do is open them up for public commentbefore we finalize...so what does everyone want to do? ...post them yourselves or send them to me to post? Machts Nicht!

Peace

Rose

KagomeShuko
18th January 2005, 10:03 PM
Well that's a good question. What I would like to do is open them up for public commentbefore we finalize...so what does everyone want to do? ...post them yourselves or send them to me to post? Machts Nicht!

Peace

Rose
Either is fine by me!

Stein Auf!
Bridget

ByzantineDixie
23rd January 2005, 02:37 PM
Anyone else have a FAQ ready for comment? Please post as Scott and Theo did. Thanks-----R

pastel
25th January 2005, 04:31 PM
Can't wait to meet this "Saint Martin Luther" fellow. ;)

KagomeShuko
17th February 2005, 12:23 AM
*bump*
Are we ever gonna get this FAQ done? :D :D ;)
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I figured I'd at least start with this one. I read the history at the sites, and tried to figure out what some of the best stuff was to make it coherent to others. However, some of it was confusing - on all the sites - and I figure, since I'm ELCA, maybe a LCMSer wants to check the info for LCMS and the WELSer want to check the information for WELS? I don't think we have any ELSers, do we?

Anyway, here is what I have so far. I cannot promise great spelling or grammar at the moment, since I just did this up fairly quickly. I'm sure it needs proofing and editing.

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What do all those letters mean (ELCA/LCMS/WELS/ELS)?
ELCA, LCMS, WELS, and ELS are all abbreviations for the different synods in Lutheranism. While we all have the same main beliefs, there are different groups of Lutherans who have split because of a few different beliefs.

ELCA stands for Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. It was formed through a series of mergers. In the 1960s and 1970s, The American Lutheran Church (German), The Evangelical Lutheran Church (Norweigen), and United Evangelical Lutheran Church (Danish) merged to form The American Lutheran Church (ALC). After this, there were many other mergers with cultural Lutheran churches which formed many more small synods. The LCMS (see next part of FAQ), placed their fellowship with the ALC "in protest" over certain theological and doctrinal statces. In 1987 by a combining of the ALC and the other many other small cultueral Lutheran synods, the ELCA was formed. It is the biggest Lutheran synod in the United States. It is viewed to be the most liberal Luthearn synod. The ELCA allows women pastors. It also has open communion which means that all believers in Christ are welcome to participate in Holy Communion when it is offered. More information can be found at www.elca.org (http://www.elca.org/)

LCMS stands for Lutheran-Church Missouri Synod. It is the second largest Lutheran synod in the United States. The LCMS first began on April 26, 1847 as "The German Evangelical Lutheran Synod of Missouri, Ohio and Other States." The name was shortened to The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synodo on April 26, 1947. More information can be found at www.lcms.org (http://www.lcms.org/)

WELS stands for Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. WELS is the third largest Lutheran synod in the United States. The WELS began in 1850 when three German pastors met in Milwaukee. More information can be found at www.wels.org (http://www.wels.org/)

ELS stands for Evangelical Lutheran Synod. The ELS started in Wisconsin, Iowa, and Minnesota with Norweigens who had no pastors or churches and often met in barns or under trees. In 1853, the first church among these believers was organized and it was known as the "Norweigen Synod." In July of 1872, they met with the WELS and the LCMS to form the Evangelical Lutheran Synodical Conference In the 1880s, a controversy over the doctrine of election occured in the Lutheran church. In 1917, a merger of a few different Norweigen congregations, but many pastors refused to be part of this group because of the teaching that man could play a part in his salvation. In June of 1918, a group that refused that teaching that was meeting at Lime Creek Lutheran Church in Lake Mills was reorganized at the "Norweigen Synod." It was later renamed the Evangelial Lutheran Synod. More information can be found at www.evluthsyn.org (http://www.evluthsyn.org/)
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Stein Auf!
Bridget

revjpw
17th February 2005, 01:02 AM
May I add my two cents...

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What do all those letters mean (ELCA/LCMS/WELS/ELS)?
ELCA, LCMS, WELS, and ELS are all abbreviations for the different synods in Lutheranism. While we all have the same main beliefs, there are different groups of Lutherans who have split because of a few different beliefs.

ELCA stands for Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. It was formed through a series of mergers. In the 1960s and 1970s, The American Lutheran Church (German), The Evangelical Lutheran Church (Norweigen), and United Evangelical Lutheran Church (Danish) merged to form The American Lutheran Church (ALC). After this, there were many other mergers with cultural Lutheran churches which formed many more small synods. The LCMS (see next part of FAQ), placed their fellowship with the ALC "in protest" over certain theological and doctrinal statces. In 1987 by a combining of the ALC and the other many other small cultueral Lutheran synods, the ELCA was formed. It is the biggest Lutheran synod in the United States. It is viewed to be the most liberal Luthearn synod. The ELCA allows women pastors. It also has open communion which means that all believers in Christ are welcome to participate in Holy Communion when it is offered. More information can be found at www.elca.org (http://www.elca.org/)


The ELCA was formed by the merger of the Lutheran Church in America (see the ELS below), the American Lutheran Church, and the Association of Evengelical Lutheran Churches, which broke from the LCMS in 1975 following an investigation of false doctrine being taught at the St. Louis seminary.

LCMS stands for Lutheran-Church Missouri Synod. It is the second largest Lutheran synod in the United States. The LCMS first began on April 26, 1847 as "The German Evangelical Lutheran Synod of Missouri, Ohio and Other States." The name was shortened to The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synodo on April 26, 1947. More information can be found at www.lcms.org (http://www.lcms.org/)

WELS stands for Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. WELS is the third largest Lutheran synod in the United States. The WELS began in 1850 when three German pastors met in Milwaukee. More information can be found at www.wels.org (http://www.wels.org/)

ELS stands for Evangelical Lutheran Synod. The ELS started in Wisconsin, Iowa, and Minnesota with Norweigens who had no pastors or churches and often met in barns or under trees. In 1853, the first church among these believers was organized and it was known as the "Norweigen Synod." In July of 1872, they met with the WELS and the LCMS to form the Evangelical Lutheran Synodical Conference In the 1880s, a controversy over the doctrine of election occured in the Lutheran church. In 1917, a merger of a few different Norweigen congregations, but many pastors refused to be part of this group because of the teaching that man could play a part in his salvation. In June of 1918, a group that refused that teaching that was meeting at Lime Creek Lutheran Church in Lake Mills was reorganized at the "Norweigen Synod." It was later renamed the Evangelial Lutheran Synod. More information can be found at www.evluthsyn.org (http://www.evluthsyn.org/)


A small group split from the "Norweigen Synod" to form the ELS, also known as the "Little Norweigen Synod." The "big" Norweigen Synod eventually became the Lutheran Church in America (LCA) which was at one time the largest Lutheran synod in North America. It is now part of the ELCA.

BigNorsk
18th March 2005, 02:10 PM
Lutheran warriors may I exhort you to fling yourselves into the work required on the Faqs.

Maybe we should have made them a Lenten project

In any case, try, try, try.

Perfection is not possible, put your work out and let us struggle together to achieve accuracy.

Marv

KagomeShuko
9th April 2005, 12:54 PM
*bump*

I've been a little on the busy side with applying to seminary and my sister moving to Minnesota to work on an FAQ, but I figured this needed to be bumped. . .

Stein Auf!
Bridget