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JVAC
26th December 2004, 12:20 AM
I don't know if this has already been discussed, but I was wondering what y'all thought of this prayer:
The Divine Mercy is to be prayed on Rosary beads with the invocation, an our father, three hail marys and then the apostles creed; after which one prays:
"Eternal Father, I offer you the body and blood, soul and divinity of thy dearly beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world."
followed by a decade of:
"For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world".
I was wondering what y'all thought of it, have you prayed it before, etc. I ask because on the normal rosary, the ending Salve Regina really puts me off and I don't think I can pray that in good conscience, but this prayer seems more Christocentric (I made that word up just now). Just polling the audience.
The Peace of God be with you all!
-James
JVAC
26th December 2004, 12:23 AM
and one other thing here is a quote that is attributed to a revelation given to Sister Faustina by Jesus;
Jesus' Call to Mercy
"I demand from you deeds of mercy, which are to arise out of love for Me. You are to show mercy to your neighbors always and everywhere. You must not shrink from this or try to excuse or absolve yourself from it.
I am giving you three ways of exercising mercy toward your neighbor:
the first — by deed, the second — by word, the third — by prayer. In these three degrees is contained the fullness of mercy, and it is an unquestionable proof of love for Me. By this means a soul glorifies and pays reverence to My mercy.
Many souls ... are often worried because they do not have the material means with which to carry out an act of mercy. Yet spiritual mercy, which requires neither permissions nor storehouses, is much more meritorious and is within the grasp of every soul.
If a soul does not exercise mercy somehow or other, it will not obtain My mercy on the day of judgment. Oh, if only souls knew how to gather eternal treasure for themselves, they would not be judged, for they would forestall My judgment with their mercy" (1317).
http://www.thedivinemercy.org/message/acts/
XAIPETE!
-James
ByzantineDixie
27th December 2004, 12:22 PM
I don't know if this has already been discussed, but I was wondering what y'all thought of this prayer:
The Divine Mercy is to be prayed on Rosary beads with the invocation, an our father, three hail marys and then the apostles creed; after which one prays:
"Eternal Father, I offer you the body and blood, soul and divinity of thy dearly beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world."I struggle with the language "I offer You the body and blood..." We offer what? Nothing. Christ's body and blood was offered up by Christ for us. We are the unworthy recipients.
followed by a decade of:
"For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world".I like this prayer very much.
I was wondering what y'all thought of it, have you prayed it before, etc. I ask because on the normal rosary, the ending Salve Regina really puts me off and I don't think I can pray that in good conscience, I guess it has been years since I prayed the rosary...I had no idea the Salve Regina was a required part of it? Actually I just googled this and found out that while in the US the Salve Regina is customary it is not required...other prayers may be used. Google around...you'll find some that are more Christocentric...and yes, that's a real word! ;)
and one other thing here is a quote that is attributed to a revelation given to Sister Faustina by Jesus;Sister Faustina surely wasn't Lutheran, was she? James...while the sentiment of mercy in this is quite inspiring...the threat of failure to do this in relation to one's salvation this doesn't really jive with the Scriptural proclaimation of salvation by grace through faith, does it?
If a soul does not exercise mercy somehow or other, it will not obtain My mercy on the day of judgment. Oh, if only souls knew how to gather eternal treasure for themselves, they would not be judged, for they would forestall My judgment with their mercy"
The good sister seems to be saying "Jesus says do this or you will be damned"...not "by the faith you have been given, the Holy Spirit empowers you to show mercy". Quite a different way to look at things. Does it seem to you to be a bit presumptuous on her part to be speaking for Jesus extra-scripturally?
I have recently read another article about Sister Faustina's decent to purgatory...let's just say I take what she says with a salt mine of salt. I accept Scripture...I'll even accept Tradition which is not in conflict with Scripture but this seems to be neither.
Peace
Rose
KagomeShuko
27th December 2004, 01:47 PM
I struggle with the language "I offer You the body and blood..." We offer what? Nothing. Christ's body and blood was offered up by Christ for us. We are the unworthy recipients.
That's the same problem I have with it :)
Stein Auf!
Bridget
JVAC
27th December 2004, 09:53 PM
I struggle with the language "I offer You the body and blood..." We offer what? Nothing. Christ's body and blood was offered up by Christ for us. We are the unworthy recipients.
I like this prayer very much.
I guess it has been years since I prayed the rosary...I had no idea the Salve Regina was a required part of it? Actually I just googled this and found out that while in the US the Salve Regina is customary it is not required...other prayers may be used. Google around...you'll find some that are more Christocentric...and yes, that's a real word! ;)
Sister Faustina surely wasn't Lutheran, was she? James...while the sentiment of mercy in this is quite inspiring...the threat of failure to do this in relation to one's salvation this doesn't really jive with the Scriptural proclaimation of salvation by grace through faith, does it?
The good sister seems to be saying "Jesus says do this or you will be damned"...not "by the faith you have been given, the Holy Spirit empowers you to show mercy". Quite a different way to look at things. Does it seem to you to be a bit presumptuous on her part to be speaking for Jesus extra-scripturally?
I have recently read another article about Sister Faustina's decent to purgatory...let's just say I take what she says with a salt mine of salt. I accept Scripture...I'll even accept Tradition which is not in conflict with Scripture but this seems to be neither.
Peace
Rose
Thank you for your replies, it is always interesting to hear other peoples views on these things. Also a small clarification, Faustina was reported to have seen a vision of Christ who 'revealed' that to her. I just find that very pondersome (can't think of a better word).
-James
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