Please forgive my ignorance Brothers

[Colabomb]

What is the difference between Coptic and Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox?

[Yeznik]

The Coptic and the Oriental Orthodox accept the first 3 councils as Ecumenical Counsels, the Eastern Orthodox accepts an additional 4 counsels.

[Colabomb]

The Coptic and the Oriental Orthodox accept the first 3 councils as Ecumenical Counsels, the Eastern Orthodox accepts an additional 4 counsels.
Thank you.

[CeeBee]

Thanks as well I just stopped by and ur post helped me understand thanks and God bless.

[Happy Orthodox]

What exacly do Copts not accept at the "additional 4 councils"?

[orthedoxy]

What exacly do Copts not accept at the "additional 4 councils"?
Mainly the two nature of Christ, which contradict the council of Ephesus and the primacy of The Roman Pope.
I should also add the difference between EO and Orientals is we don't bow down before statues.
OO accept EO and RC as being the same faith (unlike some EO).
OO don't believe everyone we are the only true religion or one have to come to our Church (unlike EO who believe you have to believe in seven councils no more no less)
OO don't mix water with the wine of communion.
OO use unleavened bread (the way Jesus and the disciples did).
OO don't have exact same books of the Bible as EO.
The Byzantine Church did Armenians wrong the way Roman Catholic missionaries did EO wrong, which has a lot to do with the separation.

[Colabomb]

Mainly the two nature of Christ, which contradict the council of Ephesus and the primacy of The Roman Pope.
I should also add the difference between EO and Orientals is we don't bow down before statues.
OO accept EO and RC as being the same faith (unlike some EO).
OO don't believe everyone we are the only true religion or one have to come to our Church (unlike EO who believe you have to believe in seven councils no more no less)
OO don't mix water with the wine of communion.
OO use unleavened bread (the way Jesus and the disciples did).
OO don't have exact same books of the Bible as EO.
The Byzantine Church did Armenians wrong the way Roman Catholic missionaries did EO wrong, which has a lot to do with the separation.
OO don't believe everyone we are the only true religion or one have to come to our Church (unlike EO who believe you have to believe in seven councils no more no less)

So you would accept Protestants, Roman Catholics, and Anglicans as valid Christians?

Would the Roman Catholics and Anglicans have valid Orders in your Opinion?

God Bless Brothers!

[Colabomb]

OO don't believe everyone we are the only true religion or one have to come to our Church (unlike EO who believe you have to believe in seven councils no more no less)

So you would accept Protestants, Roman Catholics, and Anglicans as valid Christians?

Would the Roman Catholics and Anglicans have valid Orders in your Opinion?

God Bless Brothers!
Oh, and another question if you do not mind....

:)

You don't accept the Dual Nature of Christ Right?

But you do believe He is Fully God and Fully Man correct?

[orthedoxy]

OO don't believe everyone we are the only true religion or one have to come to our Church (unlike EO who believe you have to believe in seven councils no more no less)

So you would accept Protestants, Roman Catholics, and Anglicans as valid Christians?

Would the Roman Catholics and Anglicans have valid Orders in your Opinion?

God Bless Brothers!
We do see RC as true Christians. We don't convert them to be Armenian Apostolic. We don't have a problem with their order we just disagree with them on some issues just like EO disagree among themselves.
I'm not saying we should accept any new church that comes along.
Are you saying RC are not true Christians?
Are you saying the EO are the only ones with valid order?

I believe Jesus has one nature with the one nature he is 100% God 100% man.
Let me ask you if you believe He has two natures, which one suffered man or God?
When you disagree with the one nature you are disagreeing with the council of Ephesus.
I don't have a problem with the definition of EO now but it was a problem at the time of the council of Chalcedon.Even extremely pro-Leo writers like Grillmeier accept that Leo fails to properly describe the union of humanity and divinity in Christ. "he did not succeed in making evident the unity of the bearer".

[Colabomb]

We do see RC as true Christians. We don't convert them to be Armenian Apostolic. We don't have a problem with their order we just disagree with them on some issues just like EO disagree among themselves.
I'm not saying we should accept any new church that comes along.
Are you saying RC are not true Christians?
Are you saying the EO are the only ones with valid order?

I believe Jesus has one nature with the one nature he is 100% God 100% man.
Let me ask you if you believe He has two natures, which one suffered man or God?
When you disagree with the one nature you are disagreeing with the council of Ephesus.
I don't have a problem with the definition of EO now but it was a problem at the time of the council of Chalcedon.Even extremely pro-Leo writers like Grillmeier accept that Leo fails to properly describe the union of humanity and divinity in Christ. "he did not succeed in making evident the unity of the bearer".
I don't wish to argue doctrine :)

No, I fully accept Roman Catholics as my bretheren.

No, I am an Anglican, and I accept that Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Anglicans and Oriental/Coptic Orthodox all have valid orders. I was simply wondering if you did as well :)

[PaladinValer]

What most Christians mean by "two natures" is that of the nature of God and the nature of Man, both of which are in Jesus.

What Oriental Orthodox Christians call "one nature," the rest of us call "one, undeviated, cooperative, will;" that the Manhood and Godhood of Jesus cooperated together, neither giving up part of itself or overpowering the other. Only in this way could Jesus have been the true Son of God.

In the end, it does seem to be all about semantics, as Oriental Orthodox Christians are definitely not heretics in any way, shape, or form, and that they and the rest of orthodox, apostolic Christian all agree that Jesus is both Man and God, each 100%, of one cooperative will (or, as the OOs call it, nature).

And I am happy to see that you OOs view us Anglicans as having valid Holy Orders. This I never knew (I must admit a great deal of ignorance of your blessed Church; a True Member of the True Church) and am happy to learn. :)