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Zacharias
10th December 2004, 04:20 PM
What liturgy do Coptic & Oriental Orthodox use?
Yeznik
11th December 2004, 04:49 AM
The Armenians Badarak (Divine Liturgy) is close to Saint Basils'. Saint Gregory the Illuminator was close to Saint Basil so there is alot of influence from Basil in our Badarak (Divine Liturgy).
Zacharias
11th December 2004, 09:15 AM
The Armenians Badarak (Divine Liturgy) is close to Saint Basils'. Saint Gregory the Illuminator was close to Saint Basil so there is alot of influence from Basil in our Badarak (Divine Liturgy).
Thanks! :wave:
Yeznik
11th December 2004, 03:45 PM
Here is a link regarding the Badarak in English.
http://www.armenianchurch.org/worship/
Yeznik
11th December 2004, 03:49 PM
Here is another link which contains the Badarak (Divine Liturgy) and how we address the clergy.
http://cilicia.com/armo_badarak01.html
Zacharias
11th December 2004, 04:22 PM
Thanks for the links. :clap: I really appreciate it.
Zacharias
11th December 2004, 04:33 PM
Is this Bible in English: http://www.stvartanbookstore.com/product.asp?0=206&1=220&3=611
Yeznik
11th December 2004, 05:36 PM
Is this Bible in English: http://www.stvartanbookstore.com/product.asp?0=206&1=220&3=611
I think the priest at my church has it, I will let you know sometime this week.
Zacharias
11th December 2004, 05:39 PM
I think the priest at my church has it, I will let you know sometime this week.
Thanks, and God bless
Yeznik
12th December 2004, 07:03 PM
Hello Freak4JC,
The bible that you saw is in English, and, its the KJV complete.(its not missing books like the Protestant bible). We use the Badarak (Divine Liturgy) of Sourp Hovaness Voskiberan (Saint John Chrysostom).
Zacharias
12th December 2004, 07:20 PM
Hello Freak4JC,
The bible that you saw is in English, and, its the KJV complete.(its not missing books like the Protestant bible). We use the Badarak (Divine Liturgy) of Sourp Hovaness Voskiberan (Saint John Chrysostom).
Thanks, I think I'll buy a copy. Does it have 1 Enoch?
Xpycoctomos
12th December 2004, 07:41 PM
I have heard that the Copts have a liturgical "dance" (for lack of a better word) that the priest does at some time during their Divine Liturgy. Can anyone expound on this?
John
Yeznik
12th December 2004, 07:43 PM
Thanks, I think I'll buy a copy. Does it have 1 Enoch?
I don't know if its would be called Enoch in Armenian. I will check it out. Is it listed in Greek as Enoch or under a different name. We refer to the ancient Armenian regarding the books of the bible, and since Armenian outdates the English naming convention the titles might be different. For example the Book of Acts is the English bible called Acts, in Armenian its called the works (Acts) of the Apostles.
Zacharias
12th December 2004, 07:47 PM
I don't know if its would be called Enoch in Armenian. I will check it out.
Thanks!
Is it listed in Greek as Enoch or under a different name. We refer to the ancient Armenian regarding the books of the bible, and since Armenian outdates the English naming convention the titles might be different. For example the Book of Acts is the English bible called Acts, in Armenian its called the works (Acts) of the Apostles.
Oh, I never thought of that.
Yeznik
13th December 2004, 07:01 PM
We have a book called Angehn, which might me it, but if anyone would know Greek name of the book it would help me out.
Yeznik
13th December 2004, 07:02 PM
Do the EO have Enoch?
Zacharias
13th December 2004, 07:07 PM
Do the EO have Enoch?
No. I know that the Ethiopian Coptics do.
Yeznik
14th December 2004, 01:51 PM
the books of the Ethiopian Bible.
A. The Holy Books of the Old Testament
1. Genesis
2. Exodus
3. Leviticus
4. Numbers
5. Deuteronomy
6. Joshua
7. Judges
8. Ruth
9. I and II Samuel
10. I and II Kings
11. I Chronicles
12. II Chronicles
13. Jublee
14. Enoch
15. Ezra and Nehemia
16. Ezra (2nd) and Ezra Sutuel
17. Tobit
18. Judith
19. Esther
20. I Maccabees
21. II and III Maccabees
22. Job
23. Psalms
24. Proverbs
25. Tegsats (Reproof)
26. Metsihafe Tibeb (the books of wisdom)
27. Ecclesiastes
28. The Song of Songs
29. Isaiah
30. Jeremiah
31. Ezekiel
32. Daniel
33. Hosea
34. Amos
35. Micah
36. Joel
37. Obadiah
38. Jonah
39. Nahum
40. Habakkuk
41. Zephaniah
42. Haggai
43. Zechariah
44. Malachi
45. Book of Joshua the son of Sirac
46. The Book of Josephas the Son of Bengorion
B. The holy books of the New Testament
1. Matthew
2. Mark
3. Luke
4. John
5. The Acts
6. Romans
7. I Corinthians
8. II Corinthians
9. Galatians
10. Ephesians
11. Philippians
12. Colossians
13. I Thessalonians
14. II Thessalonians
15. I Timothy
16. II Timothy
17. Titus
18. Philemon
19. Hebrews
20. I Peter
21. II Peter
22. I John
23. II John
24. III John
25. James
26. Jude
27. Revelation
28. Sirate Tsion (the book of order)
29. Tizaz (the book of Herald)
30. Gitsew
31. Abtilis
32. The I book of Dominos
33. The II book of Dominos
34. The book of Clement
35. Didascalia
source: http://ethiopianorthodox.org/english/canonizedbooks/canonizedbooks.htm
Zacharias
14th December 2004, 02:07 PM
the books of the Ethiopian Bible.
A. The Holy Books of the Old Testament
1. Genesis
2. Exodus
3. Leviticus
4. Numbers
5. Deuteronomy
6. Joshua
7. Judges
8. Ruth
9. I and II Samuel
10. I and II Kings
11. I Chronicles
12. II Chronicles
13. Jublee
14. Enoch
15. Ezra and Nehemia
16. Ezra (2nd) and Ezra Sutuel
17. Tobit
18. Judith
19. Esther
20. I Maccabees
21. II and III Maccabees
22. Job
23. Psalms
24. Proverbs
25. Tegsats (Reproof)
26. Metsihafe Tibeb (the books of wisdom)
27. Ecclesiastes
28. The Song of Songs
29. Isaiah
30. Jeremiah
31. Ezekiel
32. Daniel
33. Hosea
34. Amos
35. Micah
36. Joel
37. Obadiah
38. Jonah
39. Nahum
40. Habakkuk
41. Zephaniah
42. Haggai
43. Zechariah
44. Malachi
45. Book of Joshua the son of Sirac
46. The Book of Josephas the Son of Bengorion
B. The holy books of the New Testament
1. Matthew
2. Mark
3. Luke
4. John
5. The Acts
6. Romans
7. I Corinthians
8. II Corinthians
9. Galatians
10. Ephesians
11. Philippians
12. Colossians
13. I Thessalonians
14. II Thessalonians
15. I Timothy
16. II Timothy
17. Titus
18. Philemon
19. Hebrews
20. I Peter
21. II Peter
22. I John
23. II John
24. III John
25. James
26. Jude
27. Revelation
28. Sirate Tsion (the book of order)
29. Tizaz (the book of Herald)
30. Gitsew
31. Abtilis
32. The I book of Dominos
33. The II book of Dominos
34. The book of Clement
35. Didascalia
source: http://ethiopianorthodox.org/english/canonizedbooks/canonizedbooks.htm
Thanks! :clap:
Farid
17th December 2004, 06:27 AM
I have heard that the Copts have a liturgical "dance" (for lack of a better word) that the priest does at some time during their Divine Liturgy. Can anyone expound on this?
John
There is no special dance in the Coptic Liturgy John. The Coptic Church uses the Liturgies of St Basil, St Gregory, and St Cyril. Can you describe that dance you're talking about, I might get to know what exactly you have in mind?
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