"Christ" What does it mean?

[Sephania]

Has anyone else noticed that over the past few years, a decade maybe a little more, that it is more popular to say "Christ" than 'Jesus'? Or even combine the two together. For isn't 'Christ' a title? It is the translation of the Greek translation for Messiah we are told. Messiah means "Anointed one". But what does 'the word' say about 'the name'?

Matt 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Not 'title', but 'name'.



Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby * * we must be saved.

Again, 'Name', not 'Title'. also notice it says specifically , 'UNDER' heaven, this is very significant I think as this will prove in the future. Also the words, “among men”.

Luke 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, L-rd, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

And what did the devils call him? Christ? Messiah?

Luke 4:33 And in the synagogue there was a man, which had a spirit of an unclean devil, and cried out with a loud voice, 4:34 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee *, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God.

And even in the land of the Gentiles the demons knew exactly who he was, his name and his fathers name.



Luke 8:26 And they arrived at the country of the Gadarenes, which is over against Galilee. 8:27 And when he went forth to land, there met him out of the city a certain man, which had devils long * * time, and ware no clothes, neither * * abode in any house, but in the tombs. 8:28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, *Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.

*Yeshua, Ben El Elyon

8:29 (For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had caught him: and he was kept bound with chains and in fetters; and he brake the bands, and was driven of the devil into the wilderness.) 8:30 And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.



I have always been mildly disturbed when I hear someone say "Christ", my spirit is unsettled, but I couldn't figure out why? Even though 'Christ' is supposed to be another word for messiah, it is Christ or Christos that has been the title throughout the Christian age. Not until recently have we heard him called the Messiah, pretty much since Messianic Judaism came to the forefront.

For it is not an "Anti-Jesus" we are looking for, but an Anti-'Christ'. He wants the title because he cannot nor does he want to fulfill the name, Yeshua = Salvation.



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The anti-Christ is one who wants the title, not the job. ;)

[AlikhnKwizad]

I used to say "Christ" when I was younger because I connected the word "Jesus" with a wimpy, emotionally unstable, effeminate, anglo male. He fit into the religion of my grandparents... and even hearing the word made me sick. I loved G-d with all my heart- but I didn't like to say "Jesus."

A reason more of the population is saying "Christ" may be because they are meaning a "Christ" figure... Connecting to all religions that have a Christ motif.

[Shimshon]

The anti-Christ is one who wants the title, not the job. ;)
Wow Zayit, completely awesome exegisis on this. I've never considered that. Definitly something to ponder.

b,shalom
Shimshon

[Sephania]

Don't ya love it when the Ruach HaKodesh shows you something? :bow: Baruch HaShem!

Something else he showed me while just now re-reading the OP. Going back to Acts 4




1 Kefa and Yochanan were still speaking to the people when the cohanim, the captain in charge of the Temple police, and the Tz'dukim came upon them, 2 very annoyed that they were teaching the people the doctrine of resurrection from the dead and offering Yeshua as proof. 3 The Temple police arrested them; and since it was already evening, they put them in custody overnight. 4 However, many of those who heard the message trusted; the number of men alone was about five thousand.

5 The next day, the people's rulers, elders and Torah-teachers assembled in Yerushalayim, 6 along with 'Anan the cohen hagadol, Kayafa, Yochanan, Alexander and the other men from the family of the cohen hagadol. 7 They had the emissaries stand before them and asked, "By what power or in what name did you do this?" 8 Then Kefa, filled with the Ruach HaKodesh, said to them, "Rulers and elders of the people! 9 If we are being examined today about a good deed done for a disabled person, if you want to know how he was restored to health, 10 then let it be known to you and to all the people of Isra'el that it is in the name of the Messiah, Yeshua from Natzeret, whom you had executed on a stake as a criminal but whom God has raised from the dead, that this man stands before you perfectly healed. 11 "This Yeshua is the stone rejected by you builders which has become the cornerstone. 12 There is salvation in no one else! For there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by whom we must be saved!" 13 When they saw how bold Kefa and Yochanan were, even though they were untrained 'am-ha'aretz, they were amazed; also they recognized them as having been with Yeshua. ( from that fateful night when he denyed him in the courtyard, no doubt) 14 Moreover, since they could see the man who had been healed standing right there beside them, there was nothing they could say to discredit the healing.

15 So they told them to step away from the Sanhedrin while they discussed the matter privately.



16 "What can we do with these men?" they asked each other. "Why, anyone in Yerushalayim can see that a remarkable miracle has come about through them - we can't possibly deny that. 17 But to prevent it from spreading any further among the people, let's warn them not to speak any more to anyone in this name."

18 So they called them in again and ordered them under no circumstances to speak or teach in the name of Yeshua.



19 But Kefa and Yochanan answered,

"You must judge whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than God.




20 As for us, we can't help talking about what we have actually seen and heard."



21 They threatened them some more but finally let them go - they couldn't punish them because of the people, for everyone was praising God over what had happened, 22 since the man who had been miraculously healed was more than forty years old.

23 Upon being released, they went back to their friends and reported what the head cohanim and elders had said to them. 24 When they heard it, they raised their voices to God with singleness of heart.



"Master," they prayed, "You made heaven, earth, the sea and everything in them. 25 By the Ruach HaKodesh, through the mouth of our father David, your servant, you said, 'Why did the nations rage and the peoples devise useless plans? 26 The kings of the earth took their stand; and the rulers assembled together against ADONAI and against his Messiah.' 27 "This has come true in this city, since Herod and Pontius Pilate, with Goyim and the peoples of Isra'el, all assembled against your holy servant Yeshua, whom you made Messiah, 28 to do what your power and plan had already determined beforehand should happen. 29 "So now, Lord, take note of their threats; and enable your slaves to speak your message with boldness! 30 Stretch out your hand to heal and to do signs and miracles through the name of your holy servant Yeshua!" 31 While they were still praying, the place where they were gathered was shaken. They were all filled with the Ruach HaKodesh, and they spoke God's message with boldness. 32 All the many believers were one in heart and soul, and no one claimed any of his possessions for himself, but everyone shared everything he had. 33 With great power the emissaries continued testifying to the resurrection of the Lord Yeshua, and they were all held in high regard. 34 No one among them was poor, since those who owned lands or houses sold them and turned over the proceeds 35 to the emissaries to distribute to each according to his need. 36 Thus Yosef, whom the emissaries called Bar-Nabba (which means "the Exhorter"), a Levi and a native of Cyprus, 37 sold a field which belonged to him and brought the money to the emissaries.


John 20:31 (http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?passage=JOHN+20:31&language=english&version=KJV&showfn=on&showxref=on)
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

[Sephania]

The name of Jesus not allowed on Child's Christmas card (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37029)


The color red represents the blood Jesus sheds for us."
When Justin's teacher noticed the word Jesus on Justin's card, she forwarded it to the principal who then passed it on to the superintendent.


Wiccans have Jesus name banned in town hall (http://www.inthefaith.com/archives/000466.php)

Council members in a South Carolina town can no longer mention the name of Jesus Christ or another specific deity in their prayers during meetings.
The federal court ruling referred to a case brought by a Wiccan high priestess in Great Falls, the local Chester County Herald reported.

Although they don't realize it but they have told the truth with this statement:

"The ruling held that naming a specific deity violates a clause in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution preventing government from establishing any official religion."
They have proclaimed the name of Jesus as "Deity" and went against their own agenda.;)

Not to mention the myriad of high schools that have banned the name used in graduation prayers or speaches.

Christmas CD banned for mentioning Baby Jesus (http://www.sweenytod.com/rno/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=732)

In a move that many might consider ironic at the least, a charity Christmas CD has been banned from distribution because it mentions the baby Jesus.

The decision by the Royal Hospital for Sick Children in Edinburgh, Scotland, was instituted because of fears it could offend people who belong to a faith other than Christianity.

"We could not just hand out the CD," a hospital spokeswoman told the Scotsman newspaper. "If it went to every child it could cause offense to those who are not Christian."

Many see the measure as the latest attempt to "de-Christianize" Christmas, and at least one prominent Muslim leader in Scotland ridiculed the ban.

"If somebody doesn't want to listen to this, they don't have to. This is political correctness gone mad," Bashir Maan told the Scotsman. "It is going too far and it is going to be counterproductive.



Also notice that it is Christ -mass, not Jesus' Mass hmm:scratch:

[Shimshon]

This brings to mind 2 verses.

Yochanan 5:43 I have come in my Father's name, and you don't accept me; if someone else comes in his own name, him you will accept.

Definitly something in HaShem. It was the name of Avinu. Yet he implies that those who reject HaShem will accept hashem of one who comes in "his own" name. So again, as you eluded to Zayit the anti-"christ" will not claim to be "Yeshua" HaMoshiach. But claim to be "?" HaMoshiach. And I venture to guess that this name will not include Elohim in it at all. I would think it is devoid of all characteristics of Elohim Avinu shebashamayim.

Rev 3:12
I will make him who wins the victory a pillar in the Temple of my God, and he will never leave it. Also I will write on him the name of my God and the name of my God's city, the new Yerushalayim coming down out of heaven from my God, and my own new name.

My own new name? Think of this. HaShem given to Moshe was YHWH. I am who I am. HaShem given to Moshiach was YHSHUA I am Salvation. The name above all names. Elohim our savior. And here it is. When the whole earth is made new. No more salvation is required. All things have been made new and kadosh. Elohim's character will turn then from one of "Shua" to one of ????? Is not the name (character) of Elohim going to grow more and change to a new name?

If we no longer require salvation, Elohim's salvation will be complete and fulfilled. He will define himself with a "new" name. One of 'having' saved? maybe. He will no longer be our savior, he will have been our savior. And this verse seems to imply to me that he will define himself acordingly and as such receive a "new name". ???? hmmmm:scratch:

[chunkofcoal]

There is definitely something in His name itself; but in Revelation 3:12 Yeshua said, "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go out no more: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is New Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God, and I will write upon him my new name."

I don't know if any of you have ever read the Book of Enoch before but there is a part in it about the name of the Son of Man -
"And at that hour that Son of Man was named, In the presence of the Lord of Spirits, and his name before the Head of Days. Yea, before the sun and the signs were created, Before the stars of the heaven were made, His name was named before the Lord of Spirits. He shall be a staff to the righteous whereon to stay themselves and not fall, and he shall be the light of the Gentiles, and the hope of those who are troubled of heart. All who dwell on earth shall fall down and worship before him, and will praise and bless and celebrate with song the Lord of Spirits."

[chunkofcoal]

We must be thinking along the same line!

[Shimshon]

We must be thinking along the same line!LOL Nu....the same Ruach? :thumbsup:

[The Thadman]

I guess to understand the title, "Christ," we'd have to look into other prominent Christs in the Tanakh:

- Aaron and all of his sons who serviced the Temple.
- Cyrus.
- David.
- Solomon.
- Etc. etc. etc.

What do they all have in common? :)

Peace!
-Steve-o

[TikkunIsrael]

interesting thread

[TikkunIsrael]

the messiah (mashiach) or anointed one is also mashuach (anointed) and moshayach (the anointer.

[TikkunIsrael]

:-)

[Shimshon]

What do they all have in common?
They were all placed into power and position by Elohim personally not men.

Shimshon

[Sephania]

This brings to mind 2 verses.

Yochanan 5:43 I have come in my Father's name, and you don't accept me; if someone else comes in his own name, him you will accept.

Definitly something in HaShem. It was the name of Avinu. Yet he implies that those who reject HaShem will accept hashem of one who comes in "his own" name. So again, as you eluded to Zayit the anti-"christ" will not claim to be "Yeshua" HaMoshiach. But claim to be "?" HaMoshiach. And I venture to guess that this name will not include Elohim in it at all. I would think it is devoid of all characteristics of Elohim Avinu shebashamayim.

Rev 3:12
I will make him who wins the victory a pillar in the Temple of my God, and he will never leave it. Also I will write on him the name of my God and the name of my God's city, the new Yerushalayim coming down out of heaven from my God, and my own new name.

My own new name? Think of this. HaShem given to Moshe was YHWH. I am who I am. HaShem given to Moshiach was YHWVA I am Salvation. The name above all names. Elohim our savior. And here it is. When the whole earth is made new. No more salvation is required. All things have been made new and kadosh. Elohim's character will turn then from one of "Shua" to one of ????? Is not the name (character) of Elohim going to grow more and change to a new name?

If we no longer require salvation, Elohim's salvation will be complete and fulfilled. He will define himself with a "new" name. One of 'having' saved? maybe. He will no longer be our savior, he will have been our savior. And this verse seems to imply to me that he will define himself acordingly and as such receive a "new name". ???? hmmmm:scratch:
Excellent! :thumbsup: Yes, Y'shua was warning us, in Yochanan, he was warning his people:( , they did not listen then, will they now? This is my greatest burden,OY not to get carried away...........

Yes, Y'shua always said he came in the Fathers name, he came to do the Fathers will, he came to show that he was obedient, but the one coming will come in his own name and not give regard to the G-d of his fathers, as all good called men of Israel did say, the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.........HMMM, Daniel says he will not regard any god for he shall magnify himself above all, so, that means he will come in his own name, but what name? The Exulted one? "I will be like the MOST HIGH"....................

Whoa! I just thought of something, HaSatan was also Anointed!!!!!!

Check it out

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Someone with Hebrew knowledge http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=04473&version=kjv

This is the only use for this word Mem mem shin het compare that with strongs 4474 4475

And Yes, Yes to the rest of your post! :clap:

[visionary]

Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

[Sephania]

That is true, but that wasn't 'new' John wrote this in his gospel already which was before he was imprisioned, right?