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Sephania
26th November 2004, 09:15 PM
Yeshua said in his Revelation that Yochanon witnessed, when he dictated the "letters to the communities",

"I rebuke and discipline everyone I love, so exert yourselves, and turn from your sins! Here, I am standing at the door, knocking. If someone hears my voice and
opens the door, I will come in to him and eat ( fellowship) with him and he with me."

Many interpret this door as the door to our hearts or souls or Spirits. His coming in is for fellowship and a relationship to our inner most being, not eating of the flesh, but of the flesh of he who loves us. I got to thinking that the first we hear mention of a doorpost is way back in Exodus, 12:7 when they are instructed to smear the blood from the lamb upon the doorposts to guard them from death. Then once they have obeyed this and are in the desert the L-RD tells them what they should do with the laws he has given them in the teaching of the Shema.

And you shall write them upon the door posts of your house and upon your gates.

Jerimiah 33 "For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Isra'el after those days," says ADONAI: "I will put my Torah within them and write it on their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people."

One and the same?

First the 'doorpost' of our hearts need to be cleansed or covered over by the blood of the lamb, then the laws can be written upon them, and later, inside the door.

visionary
27th November 2004, 12:46 PM
I have a fulfillment of Rev 3:20 in my life. It was real and it was wonderful to go one on one with Him.

I agree with your assessment of the door.

Sephania
27th November 2004, 01:10 PM
That is wonderful!

I was thinking that when I studyed on the Mezuzah, that it occured to me that the words were really not written on the doorposts, but just the commandment to do so and what else to do with them. Then I wondered, how would you possibly write all the 613 or so commandments on your doorpost, or at least the ones that pertained to you and your family. But then again, we may not be each required to do them all but we are commanded to teach them all to our children, meaning, I take it we are to have knowledge of them even if they don't apply to us. So how would you do this? Shorthand?

So maybe HaShem WAS referring to the doorpost of the heart, for our sin is not in our wooden house, but rather our flesh house, nu?

Sephania
27th November 2004, 01:20 PM
And because Israel didn't take it that way, HaShem says that He will do it, he will write them.

6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be upon thy heart;
7 and thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thy house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and they shall be for frontlets between thine eyes.
9 And thou shalt write them upon the door-posts of thy house, and upon thy gates.

If it really meant the house as in 'building' then why on the gates too? Many homes in Israel are one right next to another, especilly in ancient times. There usually was only one gate, for the city, or community.

The L-rD wrote the 10 on tablets of stone. IN the proverbs we see: 3:3 Let not kindness and truth forsake thee; bind them about thy neck, write them upon the table of thy heart;
Jeremiah 31:33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the LORD, I will put My law in their inward parts, and in their heart will I write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people;


Two different things here, He will put the law in their inward parts, and write it on the heart.

visionary
27th November 2004, 01:43 PM
8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and they shall be for frontlets between thine eyes. in the hand and on the forehead...the sign of which God you worship.

Sephania
27th November 2004, 01:57 PM
Ah yes, but there is a difference in which G-d you worship and which G-d you follow. ;)

Sephania
27th November 2004, 01:58 PM
That is why I don't believe in the validity of Phalacteries. It should not be something you put on and take off.

visionary
27th November 2004, 02:33 PM
Ah yes, but there is a difference in which G-d you worship and which G-d you follow. ;)Hopefully the God you follow is the God you worship...can't have you be double minded, slave to sin and server of God?

Sephania
27th November 2004, 03:01 PM
No, that wasn't exactly what I meant. :sorry: What I was saying is that some are like Yeshua condemed, as being like seplechures (sp?) pure white and clean on the outside, having an appearence of holiness and cleaness, but inside rotting, and death. The Pharasees also who were noted for their praying on the street corners and "all their works they do for to be seen of men: ( outward signs of worship) they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments ( huge tzitzit I think) and love the chief seats in synagoge and at feasts. This is worship, but does not necessarly go along with following. For HaShem said in Isaiah:

13 Then Adonai said: "Because these people approach me with empty words, and the honor they bestow on me is mere lip-service; while in fact they have distanced their hearts from me, and their 'fear of me' is just a mitzvah of human origin 14 therefore, I will have to keep shocking these people with astounding and amazing things, until the 'wisdom' of their 'wise ones' vanishes, and the 'discernment' of their 'discerning ones' is hidden away." 15 Woe to those who burrow down deep to hide their plans from ADONAI! They work in the dark and say to themselves, "Nobody sees us, nobody knows us." 16 How you turn things upside down!

Yeshua spoke of the same thing in Matthew.

Interesting what is included in the Isaiah scripture above nu? :)

visionary
27th November 2004, 03:22 PM
Proverbs 6:20-23
20 My son, obey your father's command, and don't abandon your mother's teaching. 21 Bind them always on your heart, tie them around your neck. 22 When you walk, they will lead you; when you lie down, they will watch over you; and when you wake up, they will talk with you. 23 For the mitzvah is a lamp, Torah is light, and reproofs that discipline are the way to life.

blessed2
30th November 2004, 09:03 PM
Yeshua said in his Revelation that Yochanon witnessed, when he dictated the "letters to the communities",

"I rebuke and discipline everyone I love, so exert yourselves, and turn from your sins! Here, I am standing at the door, knocking. If someone hears my voice and
opens the door, I will come in to him and eat ( fellowship) with him and he with me."

Many interpret this door as the door to our hearts or souls or Spirits. His coming in is for fellowship and a relationship to our inner most being, not eating of the flesh, but of the flesh of he who loves us. I got to thinking that the first we hear mention of a doorpost is way back in Exodus, 12:7 when they are instructed to smear the blood from the lamb upon the doorposts to guard them from death. Then once they have obeyed this and are in the desert the L-RD tells them what they should do with the laws he has given them in the teaching of the Shema.

And you shall write them upon the door posts of your house and upon your gates.

Jerimiah 33 "For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Isra'el after those days," says ADONAI: "I will put my Torah within them and write it on their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people."

One and the same?

First the 'doorpost' of our hearts need to be cleansed or covered over by the blood of the lamb, then the laws can be written upon them, and later, inside the door.


Beautifully written Zayit.

Sephania
7th December 2004, 11:59 AM
Baruch HaSHem!