What is it about water?

[By Grace]

This is just a brainstorming thread...

Apparently water existed from the very beginning and didn't need to be created:

Gen 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep. God's Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters.

Mankind was once almost completely destroyed by water:

Gen 6:17 I, even I, do bring the flood of waters on this earth, to destroy all flesh having the breath of life from under the sky. Everything that is in the earth will die.

Some of the most amazing miracles involved water:

crossing the Red Sea, Jonah and the whale, water to wine (Y'shua's 1st miracle), walking on water

We're cleansed by water, and this represents our spiritual cleansing.

Our bodies are made mostly of water. The earth is covered mostly with water.

Is there anything else I've left out? (I'm sure there is)

So what is the significance of water? What can we learn from this? Why H2O?

Are you thirsty yet?

[Sephania]

Why apparently? Do you believe that HaShem created something tohu? A chaotic wasteland but that had water on it?

Gen 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep. God's Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters.

[By Grace]

Honestly, Zayit, I don't know. I've heard all sorts of things about this verse, even the possibility that there was an entire creation before this one, and only water was left over; so perhaps it was created, but in a former creation. I really don't know. I didn't use the word "apparently" to indicate a lack of faith in what Scripture says, just that there seems to be a lot more to that verse than what I, in my puny mind, can understand.

[By Grace]

Okay, here's some more brainstorming, after catching up on the symbols thread:

The two scriptural symbols we see G-d giving are the menorah and the burning bush. Both involve fire. Water doesn't burn, and can quench or even prevent fire. But with these two symbols, both somehow represent eternal flames: the burning bush that wasn't consumed, and the menorah that burned continuously, even sometimes miraculously, in the Temple. What is the significance of this? Also, we are baptized by water, but there's another baptism, that of fire. And look at the first thing G-d creates: light.

Ok, the baby's waking up--I'll have to get back to this later...

[By Grace]

Oh, and before I forget, there's also oil: used to light the menorah, and to anoint, but won't mix with water. Where does that fit in?

[By Grace]

And Y'shua says He's the Living Water, that we'll never thirst...

[By Grace]

And a rainbow is formed from the merger of light and water, too.

And there's the cloud pillar (water), and the pillar of fire, esp. on Mt. Sinai when the commandments were given...

[Sephania]

Ah, no Jill, I didn't mean it that way, :sorry: I just was musing as to why or I guess how? it is apparent. Many see this verse very differently than I do. sorry to derail your thread , a study on water is a facinating subject, wish I had more time today to discuss with you, but between cleaning, baking and cookng and decorating for tommorow, I don't have too much time, but look forward to reading the responses.

:)

[Sephania]

You got some great questions there Jill, I shall be pondring them throughout the day, but if I burn my pies, I'll know who to blame! ;) j/k

[By Grace]

Zayit, I apologize--it's difficult sometimes to know the intentions of a person's words online. When I went back and read your post, I saw how I misunderstood your intent.

I guess I just find it interesting that, according to this passage, there's no mention of water being created. And then it plays such a significant role throughout Scripture. Sorry to distract you during your holiday preparations! If your pie catches on fire, though, at least you'll be thinking of water already!

Happy Thanksgiving!