View Full Version : What do you think about this?
ZiSunka
11th November 2004, 04:41 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/11/opinion/main655146.shtml
Apparently there are people who think the re-election of Bush will cause a literal new civil war.
What do you think? Is the US so factionated that we can no longer function as a nation, or is this an overreaction?
SumTinWong
11th November 2004, 04:45 PM
I am so sick of politics and politicians ... I have had my fill for four years.
QustantinahQuaker
11th November 2004, 04:53 PM
I think it is an overreaction. It's not that bad. The only way there will be a "civil war" is if people want it to happen; and I don't think they do.
AJ
11th November 2004, 10:28 PM
Complete over-reaction... It is just people trying to keep everyone all stirred up instead of coming together and trying to move forward.
I am glad that the election is finally over... I just wish that everyone could get "over it" and move on. :sigh:
pressingon
12th November 2004, 07:34 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/11/opinion/main655146.shtml
Apparently there are people who think the re-election of Bush will cause a literal new civil war.
What do you think? Is the US so factionated that we can no longer function as a nation, or is this an overreaction?This is a topic that deeply burdens me... the current state of our nation. To answer the questions:
A new civil war? Not likely.
Is the nation divided? Absolutely.
Can we continue to function? It may not be easy, but yes.
In my opinion, there is overwhelming evidence of current spiritual warfare for the direction of our nation. The future is unclear. Will we, as a nation, turn from God's calling, and embrace the secular, humanistic values promoted by the world, or will we, as a societal whole, turn to Him and move this nation forward under His direction?
I'm concerned that we, as Christians, are failing in our calling to change this nation one soul at a time. It burdens me deeply, and I don't know what to do except to keep praying, to keep reaching out to those outside of Christ, and to keep encouraging fellow believers to make a difference for our Lord.
Anyone else out there share similar concerns?
seebs
12th November 2004, 08:53 PM
I think there is certainly a great deal of division. I hope it will fall short of civil war, but the new proposed AG does not fill me with confidence; imprisoning people without any civil rights at all is one of the few things I think could inspire Americans to actually revolt.
SumTinWong
12th November 2004, 09:15 PM
Oh but don't you know if you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about? :P
I am on your side seebs. I hope people can keep their heads.
ZiSunka
12th November 2004, 10:10 PM
This is a topic that deeply burdens me... the current state of our nation. To answer the questions:
A new civil war? Not likely.
Is the nation divided? Absolutely.
Can we continue to function? It may not be easy, but yes.
In my opinion, there is overwhelming evidence of current spiritual warfare for the direction of our nation. The future is unclear. Will we, as a nation, turn from God's calling, and embrace the secular, humanistic values promoted by the world, or will we, as a societal whole, turn to Him and move this nation forward under His direction?
I'm concerned that we, as Christians, are failing in our calling to change this nation one soul at a time. It burdens me deeply, and I don't know what to do except to keep praying, to keep reaching out to those outside of Christ, and to keep encouraging fellow believers to make a difference for our Lord.
Anyone else out there share similar concerns?
It's hard to know which "side" is following Christ more closely. The side that favors the killing of innocent children but hates war and tries to see to the needs of the poor, or the side that hates abortion but advocates war and neglects the poor. :( I had a very difficult time deciding this time.
seebs
12th November 2004, 10:33 PM
It's hard to know which "side" is following Christ more closely. The side that favors the killing of innocent children but hates war and tries to see to the needs of the poor, or the side that hates abortion but advocates war and neglects the poor. :( I had a very difficult time deciding this time.
Seconded. I am a big fan of separation of church and state, but I don't necessarily like the way that both of the big parties appear to treat Christian teachings as a checklist of things to get wrong, either. 1/2 :)
pressingon
13th November 2004, 12:36 PM
To me, the issue regarding our nation's future is more of a spiritual issue than a political one, though. What changes lives more... government actions, or a relationship with Christ? It's clear to me where our primary focus, as Christians, should be.
It's a dual citizenship issue, basically. As citizens of our nation, we are given the right to cast our vote to influence the direction of our nation. As citizens of heaven, we must find ways to honor God by how we exercise our U.S. citizenship. Sometimes, the choices are not clear-cut.
What remains, though, is that if our nation as a whole fails to honor God through our votes, and we elect leaders that take us in directions contrary to those of our Lord, why should He bless us, as a nation? The best way to affect positive change nationally is to reach people with the gospel of Christ, then let the Lord lead us all individually to direct the future of our nation through our votes and our elected officials.
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