true christianity...

[sictransitgloriamundi]

the true christian is like sandalwood, which imparts its fragrance to the axe which cuts it, without doing any harm in return...




There are and always have been only two religions in the world. The most popular religion is where humans endeavour to make themselves good enough for God to accept. It preaches: "Be holy and God will love you."

But the true religion of the gospel proclaims: "this man (the God-man) receives sinners" Luke 15:2 (javascript:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=Luke-15-2','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');); God "justifies the ungodly": Romans 4:5 (javascript:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=Romans-4-5','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');); for Christ goes to be guest with those who acknowledge themselves as sinners: Luke 19:7 (javascript:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=Luke-19-7','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');).

False religion majors in law and minors in love.
True religion majors in love and minors in law.


The first majors in what God requires of us.
The second majors in what God has done for us.


One religion puts all its stress on Christ our example.
The other puts its stress on Christ our substitute and representative.


One is a religion that leads to bondage, despair and death.
The other is a religion that leads to joy, salvation and life everlasting.
Scripture says that we were all ruined without asking for it and that we inherited a sinful nature. But the gospel teaches that we have all been saved without asking for it in the atoning work of Jesus our Lord. See 2 Corinthians 5:14-21 (javascript:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=2%20Corinthians-5-14-21','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');). Romans 5:10 (javascript:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=Romans-5-10','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');), Romans 5:18-19 (javascript:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=Romans-5-18-19','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');)

[muffler dragon]

This is very similar to another thread I saw elsewhere.

I got no response to my statement there either.

Just in case, it is read by the OP sometime in the next decade:

I would like to know if you're trying to compare Judaism to Christianity, because, if you are, I think it would be beneficial to show you some things.

m.d.

[Iron Lion]

my opinion is that Christianinty is the complete form of Judaism its just that many jews dont accept that. Jesus was the promised messiah after all

[muffler dragon]

my opinion is that Christianinty is the complete form of Judaism its just that many jews dont accept that. Jesus was the promised messiah after all
are you addressing me or the OP?

[ahab]

Hi sictransitgloriamudi,

I like your OP. I can say is Amen!:) :wave: :thumbsup:

[Iron Lion]

are you addressing me or the OP?


Just in genral to the convo

[muffler dragon]

I just wanted to ask since I had brought up Judaism in the first place.

While I would disagree with you on the premise you state regarding Judaism and Christianity, I also realize that that is not the topic of the OP.

Have a good day.

m.d.

[NJA]

Yeah, and many people presume to "accept Christ", their own words-only "Jesus", instead of allowing Christ to make us acceptable through beptism in water (a good conscience) and the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit.

[Reformationist]

the true christian is like sandalwood, which imparts its fragrance to the axe which cuts it, without doing any harm in return...




There are and always have been only two religions in the world. The most popular religion is where humans endeavour to make themselves good enough for God to accept. It preaches: "Be holy and God will love you."

But the true religion of the gospel proclaims: "this man (the God-man) receives sinners" Luke 15:2 (http://javascript<b></b>:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=Luke-15-2','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');); God "justifies the ungodly": Romans 4:5 (http://javascript<b></b>:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=Romans-4-5','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');); for Christ goes to be guest with those who acknowledge themselves as sinners: Luke 19:7 (http://javascript<b></b>:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=Luke-19-7','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');).

False religion majors in law and minors in love.
True religion majors in love and minors in law.


The first majors in what God requires of us.
The second majors in what God has done for us.


One religion puts all its stress on Christ our example.
The other puts its stress on Christ our substitute and representative.


One is a religion that leads to bondage, despair and death.
The other is a religion that leads to joy, salvation and life everlasting.
Scripture says that we were all ruined without asking for it and that we inherited a sinful nature. But the gospel teaches that we have all been saved without asking for it in the atoning work of Jesus our Lord. See 2 Corinthians 5:14-21 (http://javascript<b></b>:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=2%20Corinthians-5-14-21','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');). Romans 5:10 (http://javascript<b></b>:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=Romans-5-10','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');), Romans 5:18-19 (http://javascript<b></b>:NewWindow('bible.php?version=WEB&str_ref=Romans-5-18-19','p_bible','300','400','custom','front');)
While I admire your desire to point us to the Lord in thanksgiving your last statement seems to be a bit indicative of universalism. You claim that the Gospel teaches that "we have all been saved." Is it truly your contention that Christ's atonement reconciles all people to the Father and that all people will be saved by it?

Thanks,
God bless

[Flynmonkie]

IMHO Christianity is not a Religon, it is a relationship. Just think about it.


But the gospel teaches that we have all been saved without asking for it in the atoning work of Jesus our Lord.

I think it might be a good idea to take a browse through the Bible that most distinctly tells us in many ways to ask, seek, and knock.

Not to sound universalistic,;)

God loves the world. Hates sin. And will punish the sinner. All are offered the opportunity to be saved, however, not all will be. Gods Grace is open to anyone whom will receive it.

Salvation is a Free Gift, however we do have to ask, repent to recieve. Hoping this is a typo!:)

[Reformationist]

I think it might be a good idea to take a browse through the Bible that most distinctly tells us in many ways to ask, seek, and knock.

And do you contend that these verses which tell us to "ask, seek and knock" are in reference to salvation? If so, can you give an example?

God loves the world. Hates sin. And will punish the sinner.

I'm not debating whether God loves the sinner and hates the sin. Though I think that is too often misinterpreted I am curious about your view on something else. You say that God will punish the sinner. Do you believe God's intent in punishing all people is to turn them from their evil ways and toward Him in repentence?

All are offered the opportunity to be saved, however, not all will be.

This is, IMO, one of the most misunderstood teachings in Christianity. Salvation is not an "opportunity" of which we avail ourselves. When you say that all are "offered the opportunity to be saved" and acknowledge that not all will be saved I'm curious why you think, if all are offered the opportunity to be saved, why some are not? IOW, why is the offer accepted by some and rejected by others?

Gods Grace is open to anyone whom will receive it.

I agree with this but I am curious why you believe some do receive it and some do not.


Salvation is a Free Gift, however we do have to ask, repent to recieve.

These are contradictory statements. If you say that salvation is a "free gift" then you have removed from it any conditions. The problem is that you say it's "free" and then place upon it the conditions of "asking, repenting and receiving." Either salvation is truly free or there are conditions. You cannot claim that both are true. If you merely mean that salvation is undeserved but that we must "ask, repent and receive" it for it to be manifested in our lives that is a different issue.

God bless