View Full Version : Does it bother you to straddle the fence on impt. issues?
JiveTurkey
26th October 2004, 09:26 PM
Okay, not meaning to offend anyone here but I have a few questions for you guys.
The following pertain to me, and may or may not be your view, but follow what I am really saying about riding a middle road.
I do not agree with killing anyone, yet I would not think twice about putting to rest anyone who mortally or sexually harmed my family.
I do not agree with abortion under any circumstance, yet if it was the only issue in voting for a politician that I disagreed with, I doubt it would keep me from voting against him/her.
I do not agree with homosexuals being able to enter the sanctity of marriage, yet I do not have a personal problem with homosexuals themselves.
Basically I feel like I am a big hipocrite on many key issues, and it bothers me.
fiveinjuly
26th October 2004, 09:48 PM
Its not being hypocritical, its being practical. I think that hypocricy comes in if you are against gay marriage but you are a homosexual. I think that all to often when people (especially Christians) are against something, they feel like they have to totally be against all aspects and things related to that particuar thing.
I think that there are times when it is good to be against everything a person, group, or what ever stands for and not want to have anything to do with any aspect of it. There are other things that it is okay to be against, but not to be quite so fanatical about. The homosexual thing is a good example of that. I think that it makes you a fair person to know where to draw the line on such issues. It shows that you know when and where to draw the line and when and where to understand that you can't and never will be able to control everything.
The only problem that I can see with it is if you are like this about everthing. If you show no preference of strong feelings one way or another toward anything.
JiveTurkey
26th October 2004, 09:52 PM
I have very strong convictions, but I want to try my best to model my life after Christ. I have difficulties sometimes, and feel like I land a bit short of where I should be. I have a hard time trying to find the line between compassion for others and rejecting what I should as sinful.
Wisdom's Child
26th October 2004, 09:57 PM
For me I guess "stradling the fence" would really depend on the type of fence.
Barbed wire, pointy spikes, and fences with teeth are definitely out for me.
But on the other hand, stone walls, flat rail fences, and such are perfectly fine and often give you a nice view...
JiveTurkey
26th October 2004, 10:04 PM
Hehe I like your interpretation Wisdom's Child....I just get hot and bothered sometimes by thinking that I'm not following Him and making the decisions that He would want me to make like I should. I guess that would be one of my personal everday sins....call me doubting Thomas
Wisdom's Child
26th October 2004, 10:14 PM
Hehe I like your interpretation Wisdom's Child....I just get hot and bothered sometimes by thinking that I'm not following Him and making the decisions that He would want me to make like I should. I guess that would be one of my personal everday sins....call me doubting ThomasWell, that's where you go with the "seat of the pants" judgement.
If your comfortable with it either way, then just sit and watch.
If there is some discomfort, choose which back yard you want to be in. But remember to look before you leap.
some backyards have swimming pools or big dogs...
It sounds to me that following Jesus is one of your fences.
Since you are feeling uncomfortable, it's obviously a pointy fence so choose and get off the fence...
Personally, i would get off on the side Jesus is standing on, but that's just me...
JiveTurkey
26th October 2004, 10:26 PM
I'm not the best with articulating sometimes, I do not mean that I am indecisive on whether or not to follow Jesus, what I do mean is that I catch myself wondering if some of the decisions I have made and make daily are Glorifying Him. I try to do my best, but sometimes I'd really like to know which way to go .... I sometimes need Jesus to be like an Air Traffic Controller waving the big orange coned lights at me :) GO THIS WAY JIVETURKEY!!!!!!
twistedsketch
26th October 2004, 10:27 PM
I do not agree with abortion under any circumstance, yet if it was the only issue in voting for a politician that I disagreed with, I doubt it would keep me from voting against him/her.
That's when you need to really weight the issues. For example, ask yourself is having socialized medicine or affirmative action worth more than the lives of the babies getting killed?
I do not agree with homosexuals being able to enter the sanctity of marriage, yet I do not have a personal problem with homosexuals themselves.
Same with me, I acknowledge that homosexuality is as grave a sin as any other, but if I worked with a lesbian I don't think I'd treat her any different. I can't support their right to "marry" but I don't think we should tie them to a truck's bumper and hit the gas either.
kyzar
27th October 2004, 12:47 PM
hmm. difficult situation... A lot of problems we have today are because for too long we have gone away from what scripture says... my last job i worked with 2 homosexuals at desks next to mine... it was uncomfortable and really not a nice experience, but i couldnt go as far as running down the main road shouting 'kill all the gay people'... its difficult and we shall have to work through it as best we can until Jesus coems again...
Entertaining_Angels
27th October 2004, 01:34 PM
I have a tough time and was just talking to my husband about this the other night. Here in Oregon we have a measure to define marriage. As a Christian, I understand completely what God has to say in the Bible about homosexuality. However, as a human I struggle. I used to frequent a gay bar when I was younger. I've had numerous friends who are homosexual and always seem to have wonderful neighbors some of which are homosexual. In fact, I'd give the coat off my back to somebody who was cold whether they were heterosexual, homosexual or the ever popular 'metrosexual' LOL.
But as a Christian, I know God has reasons for not permitting homosexuality and perhaps many of those reasons we will not understand until we are with Him one day. However, I also struggle with the fact that God has granted us free will and the right to make our own decisions. And, so I struggle with taking that 'free will' from people by banning marriage between two homosexuals.
I've already voted and I did vote to define marriage between one man and one woman but that was and still is a very tough one for me.
So, yes, I sit perched up on the same fence and sometimes it feels like it is a barbed wire fence.
candystripes
28th October 2004, 02:50 PM
God loves the child but hates the sin. that's why he died for us. We were all sinners and some point and most assuredly will sin again. I love the song that says "there is room at the cross, though many have come there is still room for one." whether you be a homosexual, a rapist, a murder, a liar, an adulterist, a thief, god has his arms wide open and waiting. How much more should we do. each and every sin has the same wage. But though i am not a lesbian, i could never hate a person who is. Becuase God loved me in my mess. You are not a Hypocrite. and for the issue of one molesting my family. i beleive if it did not happen in my presence. Though i may be tempted to take matters in my own hands i must allow the laws of the land to handle it. But if it is in my presence. I will do anything and all in my power, (as the old folks say) to bless their soul real good.;)
candystripes
28th October 2004, 02:55 PM
PS
WE should all stop looking at homosexuality as the unforgiveable sin. It is not. Just like we minister hope to the drug addict. It is our Job to minister that same hope to the homosexual addicts. Dont be scornful, but rejoice that God has put you in the place to minister another soul to life.
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