How often do you pray?

[Droobie]

Are you a prayer warrior? Does prayer come easily to you? Do you pray often?

[Susan]

I could use some help but yes, I do pray a lot.
:)

[soulsisterclaire]

I pray a little bit here and there all day long...I do a formal sort of praying first thing in the morning and last thing at night...

In the morning, I thank God for giving me another day to be here, to protect me and my family throughout the day and to keep me from sin, and to use me to glorify Him...

At night I thank Him for being with me that day and protecting me and my family from harm, I also ask for forgiveness of my sins of that day, and ask Him to send His Holy Spirit to be with me.

"pray without ceasing"

[soulsisterclaire]

My 12 year old daughter, Jasmine, prays at night and it takes her so long...that she has told me that she falls asleep in the middle of prayer sometimes...I told her that was okay...she fell asleep in God's arms... :holy:

I told her she is being too specific, that is what takes her so long...but she insists on doing it her way...which is fine...she is a blessing to me...so sweet, so innocent...

Can children be angels from God? ;)

[Katya]

I don't pray as often as I should. Infact I go weeks without praying sometimes. But I know when I do, I feel so much better. Just can't understand why I won't do it more often though. :sigh:

[Blynn]

Can children be angels from God?

I think God has given them to us to teach us many things. :)

I love to listen to my children pray. What amazes me is that their prayers are so selfless.


Praying is part of my daily life. :)

[Redeemed1]

Originally posted by Droobie
Are you a prayer warrior? Does prayer come easily to you? Do you pray often?

Yes, yes, & yes. I am drawn to prayer like a moth to a flame, and it has been the consistent "calling" in my life as a Christian.

[Mandey]

i try to pray mostly every spare minute i have...in the morning when i walk to school, i tend to pray, and pray for someone who it appears is having a bad day, and those having a good day!!!!

[coastie]

Should prayer be formal? I'm always informal with my prayers. I'm not Catholic or anything, I grew up with those rhyming prayers over dinner. For the first 10 or 11 years of my life I thouhgt that all prayers had to rhyme :D

Then when I was a teenager, I didn't believe in formalities at all. I was somewhat of a prayer "radical".

Now That I've spent half a decade or so in the military I understand how it it is a sign of respect to be formal. Does God want this or does he want more personal prayer?

I am of the feeling that prayer is when we share a sort of intimacy with God, it would almost break my heart to revrt back to formal prayer, but I want to pray how God want s me to pray. :help:

in Christ,
Zach

[hollygirl]

I feel I should pray more. I pray daily, at times I keep the lines open throughout the day. What's cool is when you sit down to pray and get up 45 minutes or an hour later, or whatever, and it only felt like a few seconds.

soulsisterclaire - Praise the Lord that that 12 year old of yours is specific when she prays. Encourage that, to an extent. When I was little I prayed for the napkins, forks, and spoons too... However, I learned to moderate my specifics to what I really meant.

coastie - I think it's personal prefrence. I feel perfectly comfortable talking to God as my "Daddy". I talk to him like I would a best friend. I can't do the formal stuff. I can't make a good connection that way. If I try to present anything to God that's not me it just doesn't work. He knows my innermost being! I just be me when I pray. If formal is you... well, there you have it.

[renee67]

I have been blessed with the burden of intercessory prayer. I can pray for hours and it feels like only moments have passed. I am new here, but on other Christian Message Boards, I am somewhat of a prayer warrior. I hope that the people posting on this website will get to know me, and allow me the honor of praying for them. Blessings to you all...YSIC, Lisa Renee

[allieisme]

I always pray at least one time a day, before bed, other times I can pray a few times.. :pink:

[soulsisterclaire]

Originally posted by renee67
I have been blessed with the burden of intercessory prayer. I can pray for hours and it feels like only moments have passed. I am new here, but on other Christian Message Boards, I am somewhat of a prayer warrior. I hope that the people posting on this website will get to know me, and allow me the honor of praying for them. Blessings to you all...YSIC, Lisa Renee

Welcome to the board renee67! We are glad that you are here. I know what you mean about prayer and time passing...it is strange and wonderful...I look forward to getting to know you and always welcome anybody in praying for me and my family...I will PM you my specific prayer needs...you can also see the prayer, praise and advice section here at the forum to pray for us all!

Glad your here! :wave:

[sunnie63]

My prayers are sometimes like conversations with God. I have a hard time having a "formatted" prayer. I have been praying since I can remember, but I started the conversation type of prayers when I was about 12.It just comes easier that way. I usually don't have a certain time I pray unless someone asks me to pray for them at like say 2:00. I usually pray my way thru the day!! :)

[bonkers]

i just pray whenever i feel like it, atleast once or twice a day, but my prayers are just sendings really, like when i need help on something i just say God help me with this, or something like that, so they are like what Sunnie63 said.

[CaptKC]

I pray at least once a day, usually at night when I have a whole new day ahead of me. :pray:

[Hewitt]

I try to pray every morning when I wake up just to thank God for another day but sometimes I forget. I always pray at night for the same reasons mentioned above. I also pray at various times through the day, sometimes for help or just to says thanks. I try to make a habit of praying before any sporting event I participate in as well and I can always sense the difference :pray:

[Kkisjjang]

Pray before I go to sleep. And before every single meals.

And when I walk around by myself or drive around, I pray during that time. Any time is a good time for "A Prayer". :)

[KraKto$is8]

i pray twice or thrice a day

altho sometimes i only pray once
and when i pray about 5 times the next day, i feel so much better

[psycmajor]

At least a few times a day! I try to give more thanksgiving than requests. I just want God to know how much I appreciate the little things He does. And I think that everyone likes to be appreciated, whether it be people, or God.

[pax]

I usually try to say my "morning offering" every morning, then I have some formal and informal night prayers that I usually say.  My favorite prayer by far, however is the Rosary.  It's so relaxing and even thought your lips are moving saying the same prayer over and over your mind is free to meditate on the "mystery" (FYI the mysteries of the Rosary are events in the life of Christ and Mary [i.e. <Joyful Mysteries> the annunciation, visitation, nativity, presentation, finding in the temple, <Sorrowful Mysteries> agony in the garden, scourging, crowning with thorns, carrying of the cross, crucifixion, <Glorious Mysteries> resurrection, ascension, descent of the Holy Spirit, assumption of the BVM, coronation of the BVM]).  It's a very cool prayer.

[Joyce]

To me prayer is not only kneeling down, closing my eyes, folding my hands, bowing my head,... To me prayer is talking to God and that I can do everywhere at any time. Just to say thank you Lord, I praise you Lord, I love you Lord or please help me, what do you think about this, what shall I do here...
So I would say it is a regular part of my life, but I wouldn't say that I'm a prayer worrier. This is something different, a very specific kind of prayer, called intersessory prayer. This is a person who battles on the behalf of others in prayer. I don't count myself to this group, but I still do it every now and then, because we are all called to pray on the behalf of others.

[Autumn]

I pray all throughout the day....but I think that I really need to spend more time just in the quiet, on my knees, in prayer. Just me and God. It's one thing to talk to Him in the car, at work, everywhere...but to sacrifice a piece of my day...a half an hour or an hour just for Him alone...I think He deserves that.

[jko]

i pray quit a lot through out the day.. and pray before I goto bed too.
sometimes, I wake up in the middle of the night, and have somthing I need to pray about.... kinda weird?

[Jenna]

Ah, well, I pray a good deal at odd times throughout the day. I'm not very good at saying my prayers in the morning, as my little one is squalling and wanting breakfast. About mid-afternoon, I take a block of time and pray for those in need who are on the list that my church provides each week, in addition to those who post prayer requests on the board. Then, as the beauty of God's creation moves me, whether sitting outside and watching the perfection of this world, I thank God for all of the little things that I take for granted each day. I don't usually pray for myself or my needs or anything until bedtime. I can sit in bed for what seems like forever, just talking with God. Unfortunately, this also means that I usually end prayer with sleep. lol I just can't seem to stop praying though, which means that I almost never get a chance to 'finish' my prayers at night. The only formal prayer that I ever say is the Lord's Prayer. For me, it is more heartfelt to simply come to God as I am, and that means with all of my stumbling thoughts and boogered up ideas. lol (I trip over my mental tongue alot)

Aside from that, I like to take a bit of time and just sing to God. I think that I read somewhere a quote that said, He who sings (hymns) prays twice. I thought it was cute, and I picked out songs that really express how I feel, so I use them as a form of sung prayer, and I really pour myself out to God.

Too bad I can't remember to say 'grace'..............but that is another thread. lol

Jenna

[mistertee49]

After reading the bible in the morning, I usually pray for 10 or 15 minutes or until the Lord says that I am done. I pray daily that the Lord will teach me to pray the way he wants me to and the words he wants to hear me pray. I let his Holy Spirit guide me. My Heavenly Father teach me to be an intercessory prayer warrior!! :pray:

[Harmony]

:eek: I don't think I've ever spent more than 5 minutes in serious formal prayer. I guess because I always feel like God has so much to do that if I can sum it up quickly I should do so. Although I would love to spend one uninterrupted hour praying.

Just out of curiousity, I talk to God continuously throughout the day. And it's mostly in the form of talking to a best friend. I don't always end the talk with "in Jesus' name, Amen". Is that alright? To just continue throughout the day or should you always end each "talk" formaly?

[OneWingedAngel]

I pray all day long. Just random things to say "Thank You" or "Help me" or "Help this person" for whatever reason. At night is usually my biggest prayer time when I can bumble about in my words and reflect on the day. Morning is usually "Hey thanks for letting me wake up again. That was mighty nice of Ya!" ;D

[livingforJesus-Shaun]

my life is a prayer i'm constently praying

[sakamuyo]

Originally posted by Harmony
:eek: I don't think I've ever spent more than 5 minutes in serious formal prayer. I guess because I always feel like God has so much to do that if I can sum it up quickly I should do so. Although I would love to spend one uninterrupted hour praying.

Just out of curiousity, I talk to God continuously throughout the day. And it's mostly in the form of talking to a best friend. I don't always end the talk with "in Jesus' name, Amen". Is that alright? To just continue throughout the day or should you always end each "talk" formaly?

I think both types of prayer are good and important. Having a close relationship where you can just hang out and chat during the day is a great thing. But, making time to have an intimate conversation is also good. A time where you don't have other distractions. A time where you can focus on God. A time where you can share your deep feelings and listen to what God has for you to say.

It's just like any other relationship. Balance between formal & informal is healthy.

I would challenge you to start by spending just 5 minutes each day in dedicated prayer time. It may feel funny at first. You may not know what to do with a whole 5 minutes. That's okay. Just be there. Doesn't matter what time of day it is. But, it can be helpful to do it at the same time of day each day.

[two feathers]

whenever the spirit moves me.

[LeeD]

Not often enough.  I feel as though to maintain communion with God, I should pray many times a day which I fail to do.

[Dawn Marie]

I'm new at this. I never used to pray at all when I was younger. But I try to talk to God as much as I can now... I know I need to. I'm just never sure... what to say... :sigh:

[Droobie]

What do you want to say?

[l33tace]

Two things God loves and that is knowledge of his word and prayer. They go hand in hand.

[R-W-H]

I pray about everything i do, apart from the necessities of life of course, and dwell with the Lord in prayer whenever i can, although you can in my experience communicate with the Lord throughout the day, this becomes easier over time (more natural and the first thought in each situation as you persevere with it) but the one thing the Lord has shown me throughout the years is not to follow the crowd. Yes its very important to pray, it should be the most important part of your life as from that intimacy with the Lord will come everything else, but if i was to choose to pray three hours a day because my friend does, yet the Lord wishes me to only pray for five mins, then the rest of that time is spent striving in the flesh through my own pride (desire to be spiritual). So if you all dont mind me saying, dont get hung up with the 'im not as spiritual as this one because i dont pray as much' lie. The most perfect prayer time or 'intensity of prayer' is the time that the Lord desires for you to be before Him in prayer. He knows your need. And if you dont know ask Him, wait quietly for Him to show you and trust that He will. Then go with what is on your mind to do, trusting that He will show you if you have got it wrong. Oh and before anyone says it, His answer wont be dont pray!! He will want you to pray!!

[shout2thelord]

I pray all the time i need to!!!!
We definately in the morn because i wanna start the day with God the right way. sometimes i pray a couple of times in the day depending on the situations im in. Night time is usually good too as this is when i dont have anything to do just b4 bed.

[sklippstein]

I do spend a lot of time in prayer......even while i'm doing something, i still lift up someone or a situation. God is good!

[Willi_4_Christ]

I pray each night before i go to sleep, but i will always pray throughout the day, lifting up my friends, lifting up myself, asking for strength from God, asking for help to move further with Him, anything at all. I find it an awesome experience to pray, peacefull somehow. I don't think prayers have to be formal, i think you should just talk to God as a friend. I live in a town called Greymouth and i'm part of the Youth Group scene, we have a message board on the net dedicated to prayer and other things to do with God, it's awesome because we can help each other out and put in some serious prayer for our town and the people living there. In conclusion i reckon prayer is a very necessay part of life as a christian and i find it a very gratifying experience.

[SonWorshipper]

Prayer is our strongest weapon against the enemy and our connection to the Lord. It is incense in His nostrals, this is our way of showing love towards one another, by praying for them, especially when we don't know them or we do and they aren't very lovable but that is how we can show Gods love. I have also found that praying for others is a way to let the Lord show you what they need, opening yourself to His will and what He knows is best for that person. Pray what He leads you to, not what you think. AMEN?!

[dmfew6599]

I pray but I should pray more. I need to get my priorities in order

[brins†on]

My prayers are informal.My language at time is funny while praying.I guess words aren't all that important.God understands what we want to communicate even before we ask him.

[his-girl]

I'm a prayer warrior. I talk with our Lord probably 20 to 25 times a day!

[littleman]

I want to get to the point in my walk where I pray consistently. Not because I have to but because I want to.

[FaithtoFaith]

Prayer is a part of my thought-life daily. My thoughts/prayers seem to reach out to God almost constantly. God is so good to hear what's in our hearts and upon our minds. It's nice to know that He know's I am constantly thinking about Him and to know He knows my desires for others and situations around me without me always having to speak it out.

[Blade]

I talk to him all the time. I have been trying to get to three hours a day but so far only 2 1/2. I always thought it would be or get easyer the more time your there lol, but he's teaching me to listen to him...

[MetalBlade]

I pray everynight to ask forgivness and to tell God whats up! It is cool cause I talk to him as if he was my bud...oh wait..in a way he is, heh! :D

[Akan]

I always try to pray every morning and before I go to bed; also throughout the day (especially when I am dealing with trying situations or someone asks for prayer); and if I hear of or see bad news while driving, listening the news, etc.

[Vladimir]

I pray every evening and sometimes during the day, when I feel taht I need help, blessings or an advise from above. The only problem is that sometimes I feel I pray authomatically, usingthe same words. In such cases, I prefer to simply say the prayer "Our heavenly Father"...

[Doreen]

I usually pray on and off all day - mainly little prayers - and also pray b4 bed and with my daughters.

[Exodus]

Can anyone suggest some great books of prayer. Here is a short list of topics:

-books of prayer psalms
-books of common prayers
-books of prayers for mealtime, needs, thanksgiving, hope, courage, etc. (by topic.)

Any such books you have found very useful?

[sweetangel37]

been praying alot these last couple of weeks

[CeCe]

Every day.  Sometimes several times a day.

[Reader Nilus]

Morning prayers, Vespers, and Compline.
Jeff the Finn

[Volos]

Prayer has always come easily

Prayer comes first thing in the morning while walking the dog.
At the beginning of work I ask the Gods for help in helping others.
At meals for thanking the Goddess for her bounty
In the evening (while walking the dog no less)
And about a dozen other times during the day

I have no clue as to what a ‘prayer warrior’ is.

[en|gma]

I pray every night wrapping up everything with God. But during the day, I talk to God, uttering whispers of thanks, catching His attention for some immediate help, and sometimes, just telling Him how happy/sad I am with what just happened. It's what others call breathing with prayer.

I recognize God's presence each and every moment of my life, and when I dont feel His presence at all, I am assured that He is there with me. It is a great joy to be able to talk with my God anywhere and anytime! :pray:

[bop1997]

EVERYDAY! Regualr paret of my life!
:)

[adelpit346]

i am the world's biggest beggar.
i am nothing0
Jesus is The Lord1Praise The Lord1The Lord Jesus. amen

[GlowingFirefly]

I try to pray at least once a day. Sometimes I pray without even realizing it. :)

[stephen1964]

How can you pray without realizing it? I thought prayer was a conscious act.

[Konnie]

It's a regular part of my life.

[JeffreyLloyd]

"got to pray just to make it today"

[silas]

When you realise the Lord is with you always; walking, driving, working, sleeping; at the store, the gym, the movies, the beach, then you feel more free to maintain an ongoing conversation with Him. That's praying. Communicating with the Father. That's why He says to pray without ceasing.

In Christ,

Silas

[kdet]

"got to pray just to make it today"

That's a beautiful quote and so true:)
I pray at least twice a day and sometimes more.

[Poiema]

When you realise the Lord is with you always; walking, driving, working, sleeping; at the store, the gym, the movies, the beach, then you feel more free to maintain an ongoing conversation with Him. That's praying. Communicating with the Father.

Quoted so I wouldn't have to write it :)

Right On, Silas! :clap:

And just to add something, where Silas mentions that God calls us to "pray without ceasing" I wonder how many are surprised that is the closing statement to the section on the armor of God in Ephesians 6:10-18. It is a command and a necessary part of the Christian life to have a prayerful heart.

[Snowy]

I pray every night before I go to bed and sometiems during the day if I feel like I need too...I pray for others more than myself though

[JesseB.]

I pray when I do not know I'm praying! Sometimes I pray 9 times a day, sometimes 4. Who knows how many times a day I pray!

[BarbB]

Go Jesse! I think I've been following you through these polls!!!
I pray consciously whenever I feel driven to it - often to my knees. This happens several times a day. I think about God and Jesus 24/7 - making decisions for God even in my not-so-nice dreams - Take that Satan! I talk about Jesus with everyone I can. I think all these things constitute "praying constantly".

[kit_kat_katie]

I pray most of the time, whether it be I am on the bus going to work, in my room or on the toilet. I love to pray and worship God, it's fantastic.

[Phillip]

I pray a few times a day, and it isn't enough.

[bigballofyarn]

I pray every night.

[KelsayDL]

Not enough.:(

[mesue]

I talk to the Lord all the time. When i'm driving, while I'm at work, in the shower, doing house work just about anywhere.

[Peter]

I at least get in my morning prayers. Throughout the day I try to employ the Jesus prayer as much as possible.

I also take separate times to pray with my wife and then the rest of the family.

Prayer became easier once I became Orthodox and learned how to pray. And it helps that an Orthodox service is almost all prayer (minus the homily).

I long for the day I can say with the Psalmist "seven times a day do I pray."

[Kathy]

I pray everyday,a few times a day. Now there are roseries to be said and many prayers but I always have time for just a good ole chat to the Lord. :pray: :prayer:

[GirlForChrist]

I talk to the Lord all the time....not just in prayer:prayer:

[DMX]

Prayer (talking to God) is for me as natural as breathing. There are no 'formalities' but at any given point in the day, we converse as I would with anyone else. That kind of intimacy is important to me as I do not see Him only as God, but moreso as Father, and that makes all the difference in the world. As with any other natural relationships, I do set aside time for more intimate 'conversations' but for the most part, we do talk a lot.

[BrazilianGirl]

I pray when I wake up and pray before going to sleep. I talk to our Lord when I'm on my way to work and when my heart aches I close my eyes and cry for His help and comfort.
And I pray before meal. Before lunch is a quickly thanks but when I'm home before dinner sometimes I open my heart to the Almighty God.

[Tarnaak]

I would like to explain my vote of "It's a part of my life" vote.

What do you consider prayer?

Is it getting down on your knees, clasping your hands and making a heart felt plea for or about something?

or

Is it talking with God, constantely throught out the day, like he's standing right there with you.?

I do the later, so yes, Prayer is an integral part of my life

[EnterHisgateswithpraise]

Yes I pray often. If we knew the full effects of our prayers we would pray more often ,we also need to pray for each other more often too!We can never take for granted that prayer is not necessary.It true that the Lord prays for us up in heaven ,what an assurance!

[dbaryl]

I want to get to the point in my walk where I pray consistently. Not because I have to but because I want to.I'm also theying to spend more time in prayer every day. Sometimes, you can realize with your head that you should do something yet you might not have the desire from the heart. I ask God that He will put it in my heart to seek Him more and more every day in daily prayer and reading His Word.

Really, I pray a few short times a day, and try set aside some time just for prayer, but it's been hard to do that. :(

[Kibeth]

I don't pray very often. And I want to pray more. But sometimes you forget to do it at the end of the day... :cry:

[LadyBird]

I pray a few times a day.

[<><beckie><>]

i don't really have a set time to pray. i pray to god countless times everyday, whenever i feel like i want to/need to! :P

[A Taffer]

I usually pray at least once a day for some reason. In church this past sunday the pastor gave a sermon on how we should try to set time aside for the Lord to pray and talk with him each day so I'm trying to do that starting with five minutes a day.

[SimplyChristian]

Always

Say

A

Prayer

[Rev Lurker]

I pray every night. 10 Hail Mary's, 5 Our Fathers, and 2 Acts of Cont's

I am compulsive I suppose

[lostangel]

I pray several times a day, especially lately. Its awesome to be able to talk to God, no matter where you are, at school, youth, home, or work!

[loveHIM_liveHIM]

I pray constantly! Like every few minutes "Hey God, wasn't that neat?" "Can you help me with this" "Thanks for doing that" etc

[SuperTrooper]

...not nearly as often as I should....exactly why I am happy to have found CF. Help me in helping myself!

[pixie_dust]

i talk to GOD all the time....like HE's a friend stuck inside me! i consider that as prayers!

[Crazy Nate]

I make sure to pray at least once a day

[Echo]

I never pray. I think out loud sometimes, complaining or rejoycing, but that's probably not what you mean with prayer :confused:

Echo

[hisyuk04]

i pray at night and during my day at school when i get a break alone. :cool:

[delicate_flower]

To tell you the truth, I've strayed away from prayer. Right now my life is so hectic that I sometimes forget to thank the Lord for the great things in my life. I need to pray more often, and I also know that I have to attend church. The last time I attended church was probably a couple of months ago, I cannot remember. But lately, I've been praying, praying for all that I have. :)

[BlackPanther]

i pray alot i guess. alot of times its for forgiveness. involuntary thoughts and other things. it stops me from praying about other things. :(

[U.2.K. Tha Greatest]

Nice topic.

To be honest, i pray everywhere , anytime. I say about every 2 hours all during the day. I pray in the bathroom, while im eating, before i eat, at the mall, in the snow , in the rain, when i get up , before i lay down, before i play video games, when i step outside, when im driving, before i get in the car, . The list can go on. Im use to praying and in order for someone to be protected, praying is the only option.

[ChristsChick]

I pray throughout the day, about pretty much everything, I love to share things with God!

[Skunkboy]

I don't pray now, being of course an atheist, but when I was Christian I prayed twice a day, once during our "moment of silence" at school, and once at night.

[alliedone]

I pray alot. More so for the past three years than ever before. :amen: I pray with people too. Before I was embarrassed, but now I sometimes lead the prayer. I pray by myself and have my talks with God so it makes me feel good and loved. :amen: This is a good thread! Thanks for starting it!! :D

[southron]

Prayer is a part of my life each and everyday. Some days I pray several times all throughout the day and some days I pray once a day.

God Bless,
Southron

[hey]

I can't live without prayer.
I pray at least 5 times a day.
And I try to remember to speak in tongues at least 10 mins a day (for starters)

[UberLutheran]

There are little blessings all around us if we'll just take the time to open our eyes and SEE them! God likes "thank you" prayers, too!

And, every person we encounter during the day can use a prayer, as well.

[NGerald]

I pray quite often, many times throughout the day, i dont have any specific times or anything, i just pray whenever i feel it is neccesary. God heres our prayers no matter how long, short or complex they may be.

[AtlantaFest04]

I pray a few times a week usually about (30) but still i need A LOT of help. I did re-dedicate my life last week and since my life has been much better :)

[jive]

i pray throughout the day, and before i got to sleep always.

[superbear02]

Be joyful always; pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Jesus Christ.

1 Thessalonians 5:17

[ILY]

Everyday in some fashion.

In Him
ILY

[Umbra]

I pray all day long....a constant conversation.

[JesusRox]

I pray atleast before I go to bed but lately I've been praying many times during the day.

[princess heart]

I can't say how often I pray. A lot. More than several times a day. And I still feel the need to pray more. The Bible says "pray without ceasing"... that is my goal...

[Loki]

A few times a week, on average. Most of it's rambling about sorting out my thoughts, occasionally it's prefaced with "God, if you're there and you're taking requests..." (Can't claim originality, stole it from It, by Stephen King).

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

Ut oh......I'm i trouble......I don't pray......but I sometimes have a casual canversation with God........does that count?......I don't kneel......and I don't ummmm, do whatever the prayer thingy with the hands is called......I just talk to him.......like friends.....

[Glorianna]

Praying is a vital part of my daily life. I'm lost without it because prayer, to me, is devoting my day to God, talking to him and listening to him (having a relationship with him).

[GinooKo]

It's a regular part of my life.

[kat00_ca]

I pray a few times a week. More so during my difficult times.

[Roxa]

I pray every day a couple times a day. It is how talk to God and hear what he has to say to me.

[jeshohaia]

I live and love in prayer. It is an intregal part of my life. When I walk I pray to the LORD. Before I sleep, when I wake up. When I run and read. How can I do anything else but pray to the LORD G-D? He is my guidance and rest in times of weakness.

[Spclone34]

I pray first thing when I awake, During the day just to say Thank You and I love u Lord, During the day with my kids and when I am online and when I go to bed. Just basically all the time. For the Lord has been so good to me and my kids :).

[Blindfaith316]

I fnid myself praying almost constantly... about EVERYTHING... my prayers aren't always long drawn out things about a certain thing, but most often just tlaking to my best friend! :D

[Libby1]

I find I'm praying most of the time. I can now understand what pray without ceasing truly means.

Libby1
:prayer:

[tqpix]

I pray whenever I feel I ought to pray.

[Mimi]

I pry when I feel like praying...like when I am on my bike or whatever.....I should make it more part of my life, but I pray regulary..........Sometimes my thoughts are meant for God....He hears them, always.

[GG_81]

Are you a prayer warrior? Does prayer come easily to you? Do you pray often?
Oh gosh I struggle a lot but for other reasons :help:

[violetstar]

I pray at least 3 times a day, I know with faith and persistance I will get the answer I desire. One reason is JESUS said for us to be persistance and pray without ceasing. Jesus also said if we believe with our heart that it is our, we will recieve it. He never said doubt, and do not be persistant an I will still give it too you anyway . Yea of little faith. JESUS QUOTE "I say to you if you have faith of a little mustard seed, you can say to the mountain , go into the sea and it will obey. We must have massive faith and prayer will work everytime, so as long as it is not of sinnful nature. So I pray for everything.

[weezyjenn]

My husband and I pray together at night, he said sometimes he will drift off to sleep saying his prayers and wake up in the middle of the night and finish...I pray before any decision I have to make (big or small) and I pray really hard before I go shopping...I ask the Lord to be with me and help me to control my spending and not buy useless items...it works better than double coupons!!!
:pray:

[violetstar]

You should pray for everything, that is my belief.

[Pacigoth13]

i think that we need to opt for a non-mythological understanding of prayer. the idea of prayers being "petitions to deity" only makes sense if we become prayers. we become living sacrifices, we become prayers to God and thus we 'pray without ceasing'. becoming a living sacrifice is a process...

[violetstar]

I pray for everything.

[Father's Child]

I pray all the time. Even when i'm just board, I'll talk to God and tell him how may days going, or just get some stuff off my chest. He's always there to listen to me. Makes me feel special.^_^

[afrodavid]

In the last 5 years when I was introduced to vocal and vigorous prayer I began to pray a little longer at a time. I have never been a great prayer fan but I need to be rivalled when it comes to praise music, I can listen, dance and sing all day. Anytime.
I have enjoyed massive divine prosperity in these years, and I sing to tears. I dont have much to ask God for, He keeps pouring down Blessings on me. I am 43 and I cant wait to be David at praise time.

[Sheena_Va]

I pray when I get up, to thank God for keeping us safe through the night and to bless us in the day ahead.
After that I pretty much talk his head off thoughout the day. I keep a running conversation....though mostly one-sided.. I do all the talking and He listens:clap:.
Then at night before bed...sometimes on my knees, but mostly in bed, I say my "Lord's Prayer" style prayer where I model a formal prayer to Him in the outline given in the Scriptures.:pray:

[Mathew5:16]

1Th 5:16 Rejoice always;

1Th 5:17 pray without ceasing;

1Th 5:18 in everything give thanks: for this is the will of God :bow: :clap: :D ;) :)

[Emmy]

Now that I am retired I have more time to pray/talk to God.It does my heart good,to read how you all pray too.I have been searching for serious prayer partners;I have had two;one was the vicar`s wife,After about two years both lead such busy lives,that I am on my own again.But thanks to the Lord,I was joined by a another prayer warrior.We are hoping to form a serious prayer group.May I ask all of you to help me in asking the Lord to bless our praying venture.We hope for ten to twelve members to start with.Thanking you all I send greetings.Emmy,Your sister in Christ.

[TheTempleTeam]

I pray quite a bit,but could always pray more! :D

[Angeldove97]

Yes, I have been lucky enough to really be able to enjoy the wonderfulness of prayer. At a different Christian site, I'm a prayer warrior and I pray daily in certain areas of the board. I also handle the prayer requests and I make sure other Prayer Warriors are praying and updating them as neccessary. I've also been blessed with helping other Christian friends by answering their questions on prayer and inspiring to include more prayer into their lives. Prayer is seriously an important power the Lord has blessed us with and we should keep ourselves imersed in prayer as much as we can. It'll also help us become closer with God. ~Angel

[Angeldove97]

1Th 5:16 Rejoice always;

1Th 5:17 pray without ceasing;

1Th 5:18 in everything give thanks: for this is the will of God
:clap: AMEN BROTHER!!!!:clap: ~Angel :angel:

[Grace_of_God]

Personally, I pray several times a day! It really comforts me and gives me inner peace and I love talking with my Lord and Saviour.

God bless!
~GoG~

[TheMainException]

It used to be so hard for me to pray aloud with other people, but now, after doing it a lot, I've gotten over my fears.

[violetstar]

I love too pray, so I pray several times daily.

[angelnstix]

I try to pray every night. When I do not, I do not feel right, prayer helps sleep. My hubby is gone a lot on the road, he hauls cattle. If I do not pray, I worry, so I put things in Gods hands and it makes my life more easier. I also thank God for my blessings.

[cat has felt the light!]

:scratch: I put that its a regular part of my life, because I ramble on at God all the time, about stuff. But then I sit down at night and really pray heavily so I'm not sure which one really but there ya go I guess I'm a bit mad!
C@ xx

[Faith In God]

when I don't pray, I fail at life the next day. I reeaally need my daily bread, every day.

[Centrifuge04]

It's sad to say but I only pray once a day but once I got back from camp last week i've been praying more often. Now it's about 3 times a day

[HolySpiritWarrior]

I wouldn't call my self a prayer warrior but I'm getting there! God is making me better everyday. Yes prayer comes easily to me. I pray all day long...lol :) I love it!

[CZzyzx41]

We've been told to always have a prayer in our heart. As for getting on my knees and praying...always try to pray in the morning, before meals, and at night. There are numerous times when prayer is necessary and too numerous to count. We should always be in constant communication to the Lord. It's the best way to maintain that close relationship with Him and it helps to strengthen our faith.

[PaladinGirl]

It depends upon what mood I am in. I usually don't pray unless I am seeking God's guidance or I am in trouble of some sort. I know I should pray more often but I don't usually know what to say during prayer. I don't often feel like I need God's help so I don't pray much.

[Sheena_Va]

It depends upon what mood I am in. I usually don't pray unless I am seeking God's guidance or I am in trouble of some sort.I don't often feel like I need God's help so I don't pray much.We should pray not just for our own personal requests, but on behalf of other's as well.
Also, take time to just Thank Him for all He does. Whenever I see beauty in the world, I try to say a quick prayer of thanks to Him for creating it. When I'm in a hurry and all the lights "magically" seem to time just right... I thank Him. When someone cuts us off in traffic and a collision is avoided...Thank Him for keeping you, and the other driver safe.
Prayer is our way of keeping in touch with the Lord. Try saying a few "mini-prayers" throughout your day and it will comfort you and help you to stay focused on Him.

I know I should pray more often but I don't usually know what to say during prayer. At night, before bed, I dedicate 15 minutes at least to serious prayer.
In Luke 11,1 the disciples asked the Lord Jesus to teach them how to pray.
He responded by teaching them what we know now as "The Lord's Prayer".
We should take each section and change it to reflect our own thoughts and needs.

"Our Father, who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name."
Acknowledge that you are speaking to Him and are honored and humbled before Him.

"Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, On earth as it is in heaven."
Acknowledge His will for a new kingdom on earth to unfold as it is in heaven.

"Give us this day our daily bread."
This is when we lay out our requests for Him. Tell Him what you want for your life, your friends and family, and others throughout the world, whether it be financial, personal, spiritual, or whatever. Yes He knows your needs, but it show's your faith and trust in asking Him.

"And forgive us our trespasses, As we forgive those who trespass against us."
Repent of your daily sins. Admit to the ones you remember and ask Him to show you the ones you don't. Also ask for forgiveness for other's that may have harmed or hurt you.

"And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil."
Ask that He guide you away from the things that hinder you from being closer to Him. Ask that He help you to do the right thing in all situations.


" For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever."
Amen.

Give Him His glory and thank Him for all He has given you.:clap:

I hope this is helpful :pink:

[Live4God]

I think God has given them to us to teach us many things. :)

I love to listen to my children pray. What amazes me is that their prayers are so selfless.


Praying is part of my daily life. :)
In Agreement here! PRAYER has become an even Bigger part of my LIfe since my early 30's!

[Sheena_Va]

Just a quick anecdote.... while watching The 700 Club the other day, Pat Robertson was starting a prayer chain for "Operation Breakthrough". There had been a brief infomercial type clip on what the specific needs to address would be. Usually I don't have coverage of the war on the T.V when my babies are in the room, but I was engulfed and not giving it much thought.
Anyway, as I was beginning to pray with him, my 2 year old little girl came over and knelt beside me, put her hands under her chin, closed her eyes, and prayed " Dear Jesus, Please make everything normal again, AaaaMen!":angel:

So simple, yet so complete.

[rua2j33]

Sheena that is beautiful. Praying for you and yours!

[Krystina661]

I pray every night, although sometimes depending on the situation I'll forget :(

Also small prayers throughout the day..

Praying doesn't always come easy for me, but I try and afterwards I always feel better..

[bookworm92]

i try to pray mostly every spare minute i have...yes yes yes! pray pray pray! :clap: :prayer: I sometimes get messages from one friend, "please pray for me, I'm so stressed!" and I think everyone sometimes just needs to sit back and pray, and be prayed for!

[Butterfly4Christ]

I voted I pray several times a week but know that I think about it I pray everyday. Nothing formal but prays throughout the day at some point. I attend I pray meeting once a week also.

[Newsboy1900]

i dont know how much i pray lol alot probley over 100 or more times a day i pray without knowing it alot of times someone told me one time that they pray 15 min at a time but never goes 15 min without praying lol

[twosteppin]

..only when I need something.......,
just kidding..... I usually pray at least once a day.

[signwonder]

As christians were are commanded to pray always and continually. The reason this is is that prayer is communication with God. If Jesus really is within us then it would just be rude to not speak to Him. When a friend comes over we don't ignore them. We interact with and talk to them. God wants this too. He wants us to talk to Him and become a friend to Him. He is more than our Savior and when we speak to Him we begin to really know Him.

[Telrunya]

I would like to say that prayer is a regular part of my life, but many times I find myself not living in prayer. At work I will get focused on the Job at hand and when I'm done I move on to the next and the next and go hours without listening or talking to God. I'm working on it though.

[(*BrazilianGirl*)]

I pray before go to sleep. I sometimes pray in the morning.
But I´m always praying, talking to God.

[stillblessed]

oh,i pray everyday,that is the only way to get me through my work day,and to just say,hello,for he wants to hear from you.

[rhemarob]

I'm so happy that the "its a regular part of my life" choice is winning hands down. WHAT A BUNCH OF PRAYERS WE HAVE AROUND HERE!
Thats awesome!

[Ashlynne]

I used to pray when I was a child.
Then I got myself into a situation that was... crazy
I was ashamed.. and couldn't pray.

[waterbear]

Possibly the only Christian who voted "not at all." My communication with God is more continual, when I have a thought intended directly for Him I'll note it as such as I think it. Nothing special, very infrequently direct requests since He knows my mind anyway.

[Dr Majestic]

once a day sometimes more.

[Samara_Anna]

:pray:
For me, I pray throughout the day. But how do you actually know if God acknowledges your prayer? You cannot pray without first repenting. At least, your prayers cannot be answered if your life is not right. Think about it. Also, think about what you say. Carefully....no babble. Do not offer "sinful" prayers. There is a such thing by the way.
God Bless!:D

[Ponder]

i pray when i rember to and others times

[Moros]

Whenever I can get enough clarity to focus. When I was getting some fillings you can be sure I was praying the whole time in that chair. Ouch.

[SaintGeorge]

Around twice a day.

[Nicolette]

I pray all throughout the day. I've been given a blessing in disguise, in that most of the obstacles to a close relationship with Jesus have been removed from my life.

[Blink]

I pray a good bit, though I've been slacking a lot these days. Right now, I'm probably praying about ten or so times a day. It may seem like a lot, but it's really not. Nine or so five-minute prayers and a thirty to forty-minute prayer in my quiet time at night. That makes for just around an hour and a half.

Considering that I sleep about six or seven hours, that leaves about eighteen hours of awake-time. Subtracting my prayers, that leaves over sixteen hours each day that I'm not staying directly connected with God. Far too much time.

It seems a bit more extreme now, huh?

[faith by day]

Ill pray in the middle of class if i have to....... I pray as much as i can

[OhhhChung]

I rarely pray because I have other priorities before it, which is stupid. God needs me to get on track with him until it's too late.

[Touring3D]

Mine is kind of in between option 1 and 2. I don't think there's a day that's gone by that I don't pray once. But, some of my lower points, it is only once a day.

[~Mrs. A2J~]

I pray a few times thoughout the day.

Sarah

[~Lynn~]

I pray a lot more now with my unborn baby and my new husband being parts of my life..

[Sacrifice]

To me prayer has become something as common as eating. I try to communicate as much as I can with God.

[AdJesumPerMariam]

I pray very regularily.

[tsoovere]

:thumbsup:

The Holy Spirit who indwells in our being is constantly in communion with us. Pray is a conversation with the Holy Spirit, Jesus or God. They are all always listening. I have God continually on my thoughts, and He is always talking to us. How much do we talk with the person that we are trully in love with? How much more are we in love with GOD? Never forget
He is there right with us, always at only a wisper away. :amen:

[seek2find]

Hm. I said prayer is a regular part of my life, but my prayers aren't really structured. I talk to God in little tidbits...when I see something amazing, when I'm just randomly thinking of someone...but as far as sit down, set aside a chunk of time, and do nothing but pray? That doesn't happen as often as I feel it should, unfortunately :(

[cinni]

I usually pray in the morning when i get up i would liek to pray more often and i know i should make a point of it sometimes i pray when i drive but other than that i seem to fall asleep before i do at night and i am busy during the day normally.

cinni

[hopper]

"Pray without ceasing" to me means we should always be in communion or communication with God. Our thoughts should always be directed toward Him and our eternal relationship with Him.

[The "J"]

I don't talk to God as much as I should.

[okiemommy26]

its a regular part of my day

[Qidron]

Prayer is simply communication with God...He is with us continually and if we are aware of that we communicate with Him continually. It's just as natural as breathing. It's not talking...it's not words...it's just being with Him and being aware of Him and what He is showing us, telling us and sharing everything with Him. When I see something wrong, my thoughts turn to the Lord and my heart begins a communication for that situation. Praise, Worship, supplications, warfare, intercessions, ministries, true good works all begin this way...and the Lord leads us from there.

Yes Hopper...without ceasing....the Word makes it clear, doesn't it... and I am so grateful for this amazing connection. It's why we were created....to have fellowship with Him. :pray:

[Kristi1]

I voted ~> It's a regular part of my life!


*I Thessalonians 5:17

17 Pray without ceasing.


Holy Bible -- King James Version



*I pray all the time!!!


Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:5-6 Holy Bible -- King James Version

[Spyk]

Its a regular part of mi life.. I give thanks for bits and bobs whilst going thru the day.. I ask him for strength to do things that mayb i cant doo or to not do thing sthat i kno i shouldnt..
Thank God he hears us.. Its just us that have to hear him..

Spyk..

[Hisbygrace]

Although I pray often, it could never be called enough!!

[Richard]

I pray throughout my day. I wish I could say that everyday but I can't ... its a habit you have to get into !

[pgp_protector]

Not Enough. :(

[noellejoi]

Not Enough. :(
Me too:cry:

[k]

It's become a regular part of my life 'cause through God's Grace it has been revealed that God wants a very intimate relationship with all of us. This means honesty, but more importantly, it means we are able to talk with God anywhere and anytime. I have 20/20 vision, but when it comes to spiritual matters and tomorrow, I am so blind the only corrective lens available is the Holy Spirit.

Peace

[issa]

it is not easy to pray. wish i could say that i pray continually as the bible says but i havent really prayed continually for one whole day...something would always cut my prayerful attitude, my connectedness to His presence. right now i am striving to connect with Him first thing and last thing. but when i am led to pray for something or someone, i do. i am very much blessed by people who would stop talking with you and start praying for you for just a while...

that gives me a lot to aspire to... a day of praying continually, spontaneous prayer, and one more thing. i really would love to spend a day with just Him.

[JustinWilliams]

I used to pray either once I woke up in the morning or before I would go to bed at night. But now because of my circumstances I am in continualy conversations with the Lord throughout the day. Yet I have become depressed because my prayers seem to go unanswered :sigh:

[GG_81]

hijole my prayer life is down hill.....

[sl_pahotogal]

If prayer is considered when a person speaks to God on a personal level, then I pray all day long because it seems that I am always talking to Him. I consider Him my best friend. I can talk to Him about anything.

[brinny]

I pray throughout the day

[Jesus-is-the-best]

It is regular part of my life… Without prayer, I would go stir-crazy. ;)

Prayer is a very important thing. Prayer is fellowship with God… and how much of that is enough? :)

I try to pray as often as I can, but sometimes I just get one in a day. (besides the blessings for the meals)

[Neal]

Yeah, every day! It's very fun to pray, I think. Just think: you're talking to the Creator of the universe, God Almighty.

[Evie]

Are you a prayer warrior? Does prayer come easily to you? Do you pray often?
I pray without ceasing throughout my day,as I can never get enough of God!!!

[luv]

I pray every night or more.

[kleptobismol]

i pray at least every few hours or so...its a regular part of my life!

[Luv4Jesus]

i pray at least every few hours or so...its a regular part of my life!


ditto; sometimes I don't get in a quiet time as much as I would like but I always try to pray silently throughout the day and keep the presence of the Lord in mind.

Hello kleptobismol! BTW cook log on name!:wave:

Blessings,

Mysticaangel

[Saint2be27]

I pray about 2-3 times a day, but I think I need to commit to more 'quality' prayer...something more then a routine fleeting 'thank you Lord....' prayer.

[Purified]

I always, always pray. A lot of times I forget to pray for forgiveness, though.

[disciple73]

Prayer is an essential part of our life. We must pray to God throughout the day to continue to walk in His will.

[Zoomer]

A few times a week, but I do not did it as often as I'd like.

[rahul_sharma]

everyday

[hat lady]

I pray daily. But I know I need to seek God more than 30 minutes a day.

[apadilla]

i know that i dont pray enough!!!

so, please pray for me!!
God Bless!

[El_Ayin]

Do you pray often?

Every chance I get!

(Woohoo!, My 100th post!!!)

[SandyLou]

1 thessalonians 5:16-18

[meebs]

Are you a prayer warrior? Does prayer come easily to you? Do you pray often?Welllll....not prayer warrior as such, but i pray a lot more than once a day on average, or i try. But sometimes me praying is like talking to a tree :scratch: . He does answer now and then, but im never sure of how to say it. I figure he knows what im trying to say anyway. Im just a bit bad at it....:doh:

:wave:

[domi]

I pray everynight for my frends my family and my chirstan brothes and sisters........then for me............but i'm the less imporant/.........also when u pray i think it's most imporant to thank god fore everthing u have first......and then ask for more......iabout wanting ot pray......i usta pray like a musilm but then i decidted that if i don't want to pray i willnt do it or i willn't put my heart in it......i think it's best to pray when u want to for me that's everynight when i have nothing on my mind.........when u want to pray u will have the most repect for god....and that's what's imporant.........god

[d-11even]

I try to do it as much as possible. Mostly everyday before I go to bed.

[Soulikz]

i pray often, although i wish i didnt procrastinate so much, and did it even more...

[chutney man]

i pray every second of my life whenever i see someone strugglin

[SJBrian]

Being honest - I struggle with prayer and I'm not sure why. I consider myself an above average speaker (I speak in front of groups frequently and enjoy it) but when it comes to prayer I stumble for words. I'm working on it though and know I don't pray enough.:help:

[mcb1998au]

I pray at least once a day without fail, sometimes i pray more often.

[bubblefish]

I pray almost every day. It is a regular part of my life.

[monkeystink]

I pray when the spirit moves me or in the car with nobody around.

[SmEaGoL!]

I am not proud to say that I do not pray very regularly. But I always pray for people with prayer requests.

[BibleQuizzinChika]

the bible says "pray without ceasing" and so.... prayer is part of my life!! if i'm not in deep, fervent prayer (which i do every day) then i'm simply talkin' to God, he's my best friend!!
~karissa

[jcright]

I would say it's a regular part of my life.

[dave1988]

Once a day for me:thumbsup:

[Saruman]

I pray almost every hour I'm awake. I pray a lot at school...sometimes if I see something extraordinary, I just stop and thank God for it. I see some people in my community that seem to be having trouble, and without even knowing their names, I'll whisper a prayer for their protection, and His guidence in their lives.

Prayer is such an outlet for me and I feel icomplete without it. It is a little, cozy, comfortable corner in the rough everyday life...I don't see how Non-Christians make it through...

[sammipher]

I pray usually more than once a day...I think I need the Lords strength in all that I do.

[labellady]

I usually pray through the day, it gives me strength to get through the day.

[PaladinGirl]

Only when I feel the need to which isn't very often. Maybe 2 or 3 times a week.

[chris714ndud3]

I pray very often. Usually at least 5 times a day. 3 Mealtime prayers, one prayer to start the day, and one prayer to end it. There are other times I pray during the day, too.

[Glorilou]

I pray on the bus to school and on the bus back. The ride to school is about 20 minutes, so I just look out the window and talk to God.

[Meche]

I pray every night before I go to bed. I have my one-on-one time with God to thank him for everything from that day/recently. I talk to him throughout the day, and I guess that's considered praying, but I only really count at the end of the day. I also say the Lord's Prayer, because it's the only one I know. :blush:

[xxRachaelxx]

i pray every night before i go to bed, and i pray randomly throughout the day lol

[Fonzy]

sometimes i pray.

[draconus71]

two or threee times aday I have prayer as a regular part of my life

[GodFlute2]

It's a regula part of my life, but that's not to say it's just become habbit.

[Followers4christ]

It's a regular part of my life,If somebody needs prayer i will pray for them.I pray before each meal and before i go to bed.God Bless

[Chrissy4]

I pray serval times a day. But I always try to pray before eating and at my children bed times. But I could always pray more.

[Interesting2me]

All of the time, anytime daily, lots of time on my hands presently, & I know no other or better way to commune with Echad "The United One"/God through Messias/Jesus Christ.:groupray:

[Renuka]

I pray practically all the while....
In the mornings its serious stuff but during the day things like help me find my glasses.....or help me keep cool.....etc and it works.

[Rome]

I pray a few times a day

[kw5kw]

Almost continously

[maicoco]

I do a formal prayer at night. But mostly I just have an ongoing conversation with God. I speak to him many times through the day, sometimes to praise him, sometimes to ask questions, sometimes for strength. This makes me feel like I have more of a relationship with him than if I only did formal prayers.

[MN John]

The more the better!

[cygnusx1]

every day :wave:

[crusader4peace]

frankly speaking.....only few times a week. :(

[Big Mouth Nana]

I talk to God off and on when I need to talk to him. I talk to Him like a friend without the thee's and thou's.

[GraceInHim]

daily - walk with him in my mind and talk to him

[lgintrnj]

yes prayer is a very large part of my life.

[*Lu*]

i find it really difficult to get motivated to pray. All of my family are non xtian n its really hard to keep going wen u get home :(

even at church im too shy to pray out loud, but im fine praying by myself.

[greenjeans]

I pray informally all day long, especally, when I am having a negative moment ect.