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Umut
30th March 2004, 01:50 AM
Does the Orthodox Church, or any Saints believe in fate? Because I believe that life is about free will in choosing God's love over sin. Is this not true? If there is fate; how can we be responsible for our own actions? It would not make sense...

I just want to know if any Saints have claimed that we have fate, etc.

If so, that would make me a little bit concerned. If by fate they mean inevitability; then I'm still happy.

:)

In Christ,

Umut

prodromos
30th March 2004, 04:29 AM
Master, what is fate?

It is that which gives a beast of burden its reason for existence.
It is that which men in former times had to bear upon their backs.
It is that which has caused nations to build by-ways from City to City upon which carts and coaches pass,
and alongside which inns have come to be built to stave off Hunger, Thirst and Weariness.
It is that which has caused great fleets of ships to ply the Seven Seas wherever the wind blows.

And that is Fate? said the priest.

Fate ... I thought you said Freight, responded the Master.

That?s all right, said the priest. I wanted to know what Freight was too.

(Shamelessly lifted from The Profit, by Kehlog Albran.)

Photini
30th March 2004, 06:22 PM
As far as I know, Umut, no...there's no such thing as "fate'. Our trust is in the Providence of God.

Umut
31st March 2004, 01:02 AM
i like that