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Mandy
14th April 2002, 07:20 PM
When we come to Jesus Christ we are forgiven of ALL our sins, they are remembered no more. We are washed and cleansed of all unrighteousness. This is truly beyond awesome. It is important to remember that although we blow it:
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
rkbo
14th April 2002, 07:51 PM
I find this verse interesting.
2 Sam 22:22-25
22 For I have kept the ways of the LORD, and have not wickedly departed from my God.
23 For all his judgments were before me: and as for his statutes, I did not depart from them.
24 I was also upright before him, and have kept myself from mine iniquity.
25 Therefore the LORD hath recompensed me according to my righteousness; according to my cleanness in his eye sight.
(KJV)
This was all said after the Bathsheba incident and his numbering the people all of wich was sinful. Notice the last phrase, "in his eye sight." God remembers our sins no more and we can do the same. When God forgives he realy forgives. We are righteous in "his sight"
Mandy
14th April 2002, 08:16 PM
That is a great example rkbo.
Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord does not impute iniquity!
MizDoulos
14th April 2002, 09:40 PM
When we come to Jesus Christ we are forgiven of ALL our sins, they are remembered no more . . .
Amen, Mandy!
This is one of my favorite verses pertaining to your statement:
I, even I, am He who blots out your transgressions for My own sake,
And I will not remember your sins.
Isaiah 43:25
:bow: Praise God!!! :bow:
Kristen
14th April 2002, 11:04 PM
Yes Amen!!
Mandy
15th April 2002, 02:49 PM
It is truly awesome that God forgives us and does not hold our sins against us. I am eternally grateful to our great Lord and God for giving me His Holy Spirit to convict me of my sins and bringing me to Jesus!
I thank you and praise you precious Lord! :bow:
Living for Him
15th April 2002, 03:00 PM
Thankyou Lord for your Grace !
John 1:16
From the fullness of his grace we have all received one blessing after another. :pray:
Mandy
15th April 2002, 04:24 PM
Amen!
Welcome to the forums!:)
Living for Him
15th April 2002, 05:46 PM
Thankyou! I have been blessed in my short time here ! Isn't our God wonderful !?And the fellowship with our brothers and sisters in Christ!
Thankyou Lord for my family,for my wonderful husband and my beautiful,healthy kids...all of whom I need to go make dinner for !!!!!! lol :P I'll be back soon !!!!! :clap:
Mandy
16th April 2002, 03:22 AM
LOL!
And yes our God is truly wonderful and His mercy endures forever!
God bless!:)
MissytheButterfly
16th April 2002, 03:29 AM
Man this is a good thread. I know I used to have the biggest struggle with forgiveness because when people upset me or have hurt me in the past I was not always quick to forgive. It is something that I really had to work on. I think I have found it so hard because I grew up in a very disfunctional family and I was so angry and bitter because of my own victimization, I just hardened in some way and was unable to forgive.
But through Jesus all things are possible and now I am able to forgive much more easily since I have been really trying hard to follow God's will.
LouisBooth
16th April 2002, 03:34 AM
Warms my heart to hear that missy...and I'm sure God thinks its pretty cool as well :)
Mandy
16th April 2002, 04:10 AM
I can really relate to you, Missy. I was able to forgive, for one. because I realized how much I was forgiven and two, I was able to do it through the Lord working in my heart.
TheUnknown
16th April 2002, 04:45 AM
If you forgive someone does it mean you have to like them? :confused:
Mandy
16th April 2002, 04:53 AM
Forgiveness is a choice we make to not hold something against someone who has wronged us. Forgiveness is not a feeling. There are people out there that rub us the wrong way, I call them sand paper people. Some are just not likable, but we can love them, because we can do all things through Jesus. He helps us to forgive and love.
Living for Him
16th April 2002, 08:20 AM
:wave: Goodmorning all !
You know what's funny about forgiveness ? To me anyway,when I recently returned to Jesus,the most difficult thing for me was a.)forgiving myself and b.)accepting that I deserved to be forgiven. Gosh that was hard. It's awful when you sin and make bad choices that hurt other people you love. For me ,forgiving the one who hurt me,was easier then forgiving myself for being so easily deceived.
When we can't or won't forgive people who have hurt us,it really doesn't hurt them as much as it hurts us.After awhile it doesn't hurt them at all ! They move on,but bitterness and anger and hate will continue to live in you,and make us very unhappy people.
Matthew 6:14
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
Matthew 6:15
But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
:pray:
Sometimes in our walk,we forget how much God truly does hear our cries for help.PRAY ,pray ,pray.I believe he so much wants to give us the desires of our heart,and if anyone truly wants to forgive,I believe he will help us to do that !
Keep a prayer journal.Everyday,write down your prayers.Write down the things you would like Jesus to do in your life.
One thing my Pastor told me last week was,God works in HIS OWN TIME> it's never fast enough for us.Look at Abraham,and how long he and Sarah wanted a son...after 100 years God gave him one.Gods time is never in our time.
By keeping a journal however,you can look back ,over the months,and see what he has done for you,sometimes without even knowing it !But you look back over the course of time,and see how many prayers he really did answer for you!!
Godbless us all,in our search for him,and our desire to be more like him!!!
Living for him ! :clap:
Redeemed1
16th April 2002, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Mandy
Forgiveness is a choice we make to not hold something against someone who has wronged us. Forgiveness is not a feeling. There are people out there that rub us the wrong way, I call them sand paper people. Some are just not likable, but we can love them, because we can do all things through Jesus. He helps us to forgive and love.
Excellent point! So many people wait, thinking they have to feel something to be able to act on it. I've learned that forgiveness, just like love, is a choice we make, and most times feelings will come AFTER I've made the choice of obedience. I often struggled with "what does forgiveness look like?" For me, I learned that it meant no longer expecting the one who hurt me to make it up to me. So often, we subconsciously have these expectations or requirements that someone make up for what they did, even tho intellectually we know they can't. It helped me to understand how to forgive. It's still too early in the morning for me to be making any sense, so you will all have to forgive me if what I just said makes you cock your head and say , "huh?". :)
Mandy
16th April 2002, 11:52 AM
LOL Redeemed1! You made perfect sense.:)
Although slightly off topic here, I think it is very important for Christian to understand that it is ok to feel hurt and anger, but to not let those feelings cause us to sin.
I believe that often times when we choose to forgive, it can bring a stronger sense of conviction to the one who offended.
Mandy
16th April 2002, 11:53 AM
AMEN Living for Him!
MissytheButterfly
16th April 2002, 02:11 PM
I think just because you forgive doesn't mean you have to like them. Because believe me, I don't like everyone I have forgiven..some I still can't stand to this day..LOL. But I have forgiven them. And I wouldn't want harm of any kind to come to them.
Living for Him
16th April 2002, 05:15 PM
:D That was funny redeemed,made me chuckle...and I agree.Another thing I have learned is when you give it to God,give it to God.He can't do his job,if we say"here you take it"but we still have a hold of that little corner,still tuggin away...
Hope everyone has had a wonderful day !
I have !
Because HE loves me !!! :clap:
Living for him...Lori
Andrew
3rd May 2002, 10:12 AM
Mandy, you said:
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When we come to Jesus Christ we are forgiven of ALL our sins, they are remembered no more. We are washed and cleansed of all unrighteousness. This is truly beyond awesome. It is important to remember that although we blow it:
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
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arent u contradicting yourself? First you say
" forgiven of ALL our sins...remembered no more...cleansed of all unrighteousness." then you say
that when we blow it, we need to confess to be washed of all unrighteousness again.
I encourage to take it to a higher level and read an article regarding 1 John 1:9 its here:
http://sg.geocities.com/saltandlight5/
trueconfession.html
u might have to type in the url carefully for it to work
blessings
Mandy
3rd May 2002, 11:24 AM
Andrew, first of all that's not what I said and second of all the New Christians forum is not the place for debates.
Ken2002
3rd May 2002, 12:01 PM
"To whom much hath been forgiven, the same loveth much."
When everything is going good and we kind of get away from the Lord and His Word it's eay to get hard and unforgiving and self-rightous.
But when the Lord starts putting the squeze on us or we are really desperate for his help, then it's alot easier to be humble, loving and forgiving. When we know how much we need the Lord it's a lot easier to be understanding and forgiving of others.
And that's the attitude and spirit the Lord want to keep us in. When we're yeilded to the Lord in and humble frame of mind it's also easier to accept the Lord's forgiveness.
I've been experencing alot of this lately because I finally said yes to the Lord in doing some things that I didn't want to do because I knew I was going to have to make some big changes etc. As a result I've really had to get desperate to make changes and He's been working on the rough edges at the same time.
The Lord knows how to get good mileage out of His investments and we're always happier in the center of His will, doing what He knows is best for us at that particular time.
-Ken
Mandy
3rd May 2002, 01:15 PM
I agree completely. Excellent post!
Ken2002
3rd May 2002, 11:09 PM
Dear Mandy,
Thanks for the sweet reply. I appreciate it.
-Ken
Andrew
4th May 2002, 12:27 AM
That IS what u said Mandy, in your first post.
But if this is not the place to debate, them I'll leave it at that.
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