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BAChristian
21st March 2004, 05:57 PM
I would suggest that we take the studying of the CCC very slowly. Not, boring slowly, but slowly.

One poster has already commented on it, and he's right.

Jerome Kropp over at The Catechism of the Catholic Church Internet Study Group (http://www.cccisg.org/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=1&topicdays=0&start=50) has the right idea.

I don't think we want to do it that way -- but I would suggest that we follow a weekly discussion of either a subsection, a couple paragraphs, etc. If we see that the discussion is getting complex, we can always make whatever we're talking about longer, instead of every week a new section...

We should start a new thread, title it much like Jerome titles his, or something of that sort.

Finally, this Study forum should be exhaustive and conclusive. I encourage everyone, who may have doubts on the interpretation of the Catechism, to ensure that whatever answers they have regarding what the Catechism means, to yield to those around them. In other words, I don't want two or three people who can decide amongst themselves who is right, nor do I want debating or argumentative posts in this section.

This is the CCC. It is, what it is.

These are some ideas I'm presenting, but I personally would like to see these addressed, and I would like to see structure.

Thoughts?

ShannonMcCatholic
21st March 2004, 07:25 PM
I think that sounds great! It would benefit me to have a few weeks assignments ahead of time... as some weeks I have more time than others.

I also think it would help me if at the end of the section if somebody could come up with a review-- to help reinforce what we've just learned.

What a great, great idea!!! I hope this gets going!

Michelina
21st March 2004, 09:09 PM
I'll gladly go along with that suggestion. There is so much in every section of the CCC.

Skripper
21st March 2004, 09:42 PM
BA,

Is this related to the CCC thread that's already going or something else?

BAChristian
21st March 2004, 09:55 PM
BA,

Is this related to the CCC thread that's already going or something else?The current CCC thread, IMO, should break out into distinct subsections rather than having a huge thread with numerous posts on different sections.

That's not a very good structure.

A naming scheme should be developed for each thread. For example:

Part One, Chapt. One - The Profession of Faith - Man's Capacity For God

Next thread:

Chapter Two, Article One - The Revelation of God

Next thread:

Chapter Two, Article Two - The Transmission of Divine Revelation

...and so on.

Each section is given a week of participation. After the week is over, the thread starter must post the summary (provided at the end of each section in the CCC) or summarize it theirselves. The thread could be either closed or left open.

Each section, however, can last longer than a week, should there be a lot of discussion on it.

Skripper
21st March 2004, 10:06 PM
BA,

Maybe contact Kimber and coordinate this with her?

geocajun
21st March 2004, 11:35 PM
BA, thats exactly what I had in mind too :)

BAChristian
21st March 2004, 11:38 PM
Mmmkay. I will work on seperating the current thread once I get confirmation from kimber that she's alright with it.

geocajun
21st March 2004, 11:44 PM
I asked her in the Catechism thread she started if she was going to seperate it out, but she hasn't logged in yet to respond.

GinooKo
22nd March 2004, 01:55 AM
I am currently taking a three year program of Cathechism at Maryvale Institute, Birmingham, England. The Cathechism is studied over six periods during the three years. The six course units are:

Unit 1. Faith and Revelation; The Creed: God the Father
Unit 2. The Creed: God the Son, God the Holy Spirit
Unit 3. LIturgy and the Sacraments
Unit 4. Introduction to Morality
Unit 5. The Ten Commandments
Unit 6. Prayer

Each unit has an outline for Daily Study. For example.

Week 1
Day 1 Apostolic Constitution "Fidei Depositum" and Prologue
Day 2 The LIfe of Man - to know and to love God
Day 3 Handing on the Faith: Cathechesis
Day 4 The Purpose, Intended Audience, and Structure of the Cathechism
Day 5 Practical Indications and Necessary Adaptions.

At the end of each week, there's a section of "TO DO". For example. Go through Fidei Depositum and mark the passages which talk about the need to guard the deposit of faith. Then mark the passages which stresses the need to communicate the Gospel to others and the need to present the Gospel in a new way in our own age. What is the connection between "conserving" the Church doctrine and presenting it effectively.

I would be glad to share my study guide with you.

In Christ,
Lanie

geocajun
22nd March 2004, 02:27 AM
thats an excellent study plan GinooKo :)

Skripper
22nd March 2004, 09:52 AM
Mmmkay. I will work on seperating the current thread once I get confirmation from kimber that she's alright with it.
"Separate": s-e-p-a-r-a-t-e; "separate." :P

kimber1
22nd March 2004, 09:53 AM
okay this is what i'm proposing and what i'm getting ready to do ;)

the original thread we had started about this will be split into a seperate thread per section of paragraphs. when we've finished commenting on the sections then a new thread would be started for the next section ( along with our commentary) that way any newbies happening along could see each and every section rather than get bogged down by one long huge thread. i'm in the process of splitting apart my original thread ;)

kimber1
22nd March 2004, 10:21 AM
okay, this is my plan. since i started the original thread, what i'm gonna do is retitle it to say something like kimber's study or something like that. that way if someone else wants to start a different type of stud such as a theme based one or whatever we won't get it all confused. this is gonna take me awhile y'all so be patient with me. y'all know how slow us southernors are ;)

Ann M
22nd March 2004, 10:26 AM
I don't own a catechism, do I need one to do this?

Skripper
22nd March 2004, 10:28 AM
I don't own a catechism, do I need one to do this?
No, an online version will be provided. But it would still be a good idea if you were to get one, just for your own benefit.

kimber1
22nd March 2004, 10:28 AM
no not at all, not in what i'm doing b/c i'm copying and pasting the CCC so you'll see exactly what it says and then we're just discussing it after i've pasted it :)

Skripper
22nd March 2004, 10:30 AM
okay ... this is gonna take me awhile y'all so be patient with me. y'all know how slow us southernors are ;)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ... :)

ukok
22nd March 2004, 11:13 AM
I am currently taking a three year program of Cathechism at Maryvale Institute, Birmingham, England. The Cathechism is studied over six periods during the three years. The six course units are:

Unit 1. Faith and Revelation; The Creed: God the Father
Unit 2. The Creed: God the Son, God the Holy Spirit
Unit 3. LIturgy and the Sacraments
Unit 4. Introduction to Morality
Unit 5. The Ten Commandments
Unit 6. Prayer

Each unit has an outline for Daily Study. For example.

Week 1
Day 1 Apostolic Constitution "Fidei Depositum" and Prologue
Day 2 The LIfe of Man - to know and to love God
Day 3 Handing on the Faith: Cathechesis
Day 4 The Purpose, Intended Audience, and Structure of the Cathechism
Day 5 Practical Indications and Necessary Adaptions.

At the end of each week, there's a section of "TO DO". For example. Go through Fidei Depositum and mark the passages which talk about the need to guard the deposit of faith. Then mark the passages which stresses the need to communicate the Gospel to others and the need to present the Gospel in a new way in our own age. What is the connection between "conserving" the Church doctrine and presenting it effectively.

I would be glad to share my study guide with you.

In Christ,
Lanie
Maryvale is is my Diocese and Fr. David asked me to contact him to arrange for me to do some kind of Marvale course...as it is i'm doing rather a lot of private study at the moment and also the course from the K of C - "We Believe".

Please tell me, is this an online long distance course that you are doing, because i know that a lot of courses at Maryvale request that you have days/weekends there about 4 times a year.

also, i don't mean to be cheeky, but is it expensive? I know my priest said that he could arrange something, but i don't like to use up resources like that, he's already provided myself and the children with a selection of reading/ course work material. also, at least one of our local priests is a tutor for Maryvale (and happens to teach at my daughter's high school too)

Thanks Lanie!

kimber1
22nd March 2004, 11:51 AM
okay for those of yall who were following my thread, i've split it apart now adn i'll post a new thread each day with seperate paragraph sections :)

GinooKo
22nd March 2004, 12:11 PM
QUOTE=ukok]Maryvale is is my Diocese and Fr. David asked me to contact him to arrange for me to do some kind of Marvale course...as it is i'm doing rather a lot of private study at the moment and also the course from the K of C - "We Believe".

Please tell me, is this an online long distance course that you are doing, because i know that a lot of courses at Maryvale request that you have days/weekends there about 4 times a year.

also, i don't mean to be cheeky, but is it expensive? I know my priest said that he could arrange something, but i don't like to use up resources like that, he's already provided myself and the children with a selection of reading/ course work material. also, at least one of our local priests is a tutor for Maryvale (and happens to teach at my daughter's high school too)

Thanks Lanie![/QUOTE]

Ukok,

Our Director of Religious Class coordinated this studies with Maryvale. We got a discount of 25 pounds per unit since there were 8 of us. The non-certification, costs $150.00 and the certification is around $200.00. For those who signed up for certification must submit their essays directly to Maryvale.

Study groups really helps as the studies is pretty extensive. I moved to a different state few months ago and having a difficult time studying on my own.

Here's the address for Maryvalle Institute:

Maryvale Institute
Maryvale House
Old Oscott Hill
Birmingham
B44 9AG

Please let me know if you need additional information. I'll be happy to contact our Director of RE for you.

In Christ,
Lanie

GinooKo
22nd March 2004, 02:48 PM
Hi Ukok,

I didn't realize that you are in United Kingdom. The cost is as follows:

Each unit taken is £12.
Each unit taken at Certificate level is £20

God Bless
Lanie

ukok
22nd March 2004, 04:12 PM
Lanie, thanks, i contacted Maryvale last year, but as i was about to start RCIA, i felt unable to undertake another course, i shall reconsider now. thank you for responding!