There are thirteen sins of the tongue.

[visionary]

Lying I am sure comes to mind, which is in the decologue but can you think of the other twelve..

[talmidim]

flattery
murder
deceit
false witness
unbelief
slander
cursing
Lords name in vain
pride
judgement
blasphemy
ummmmmm... I give. Did I get close?

[visionary]

murder is not a sin of the tongue....and you missed gossip
unbelief is also not a sin of the tongue
pride is not a sin of the tongue

So far you are the closest...

flattery
deceit
false witness
slander
cursing
Lords name in vain
judgement
blasphemy

I count eight that you found...

[Katydid]

spitting???:sick:


That should be one of them.

[talmidim]

murder is not a sin of the tongue....and you missed gossip
unbelief is also not a sin of the tongue
pride is not a sin of the tongue

So far you are the closest...

flattery
deceit
false witness
slander
cursing
Lords name in vain
judgement
blasphemy

I count eight that you found...Me thinks you might be anti-semantic (teh heh heh) ;)

I did NOT miss gossip - I simply called it murder according to Pro 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

Concerning unbelief, I remind you of the story of Zekharyah:

Luk 1:1 Since many have undertaken to set in order a narrative concerning those matters which have been fulfilled among us,
Luk 1:2 even as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and servants of the word delivered them to us,
Luk 1:3 it seemed good to me also, having traced the course of all things accurately from the first, to write to you in order, most excellent Theophilus;
Luk 1:4 that you might know the certainty concerning the things in which you were instructed.
Luk 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Yehudah, a certain Kohen named Zekharyah, of the priestly division of Aviyah. He had a wife of the daughters of Aharon, and her name was Elisheva.
Luk 1:6 They were both righteous before God, walking blamelessly in all the mitzvot and ordinances of the Lord.
Luk 1:7 But they had no child, because Elisheva was barren, and they both were well advanced in years.
Luk 1:8 Now it happened, while he executed the Kohen's office before God in the order of his division,
Luk 1:9 according to the custom of the Kohen's office, his lot was to enter into the temple of the Lord and burn incense.
Luk 1:10 The whole multitude of the people were praying outside at the hour of incense.
Luk 1:11 An angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing on the right side of the altar of incense.
Luk 1:12 Zekharyah was troubled when he saw him, and fear fell upon him.
Luk 1:13 But the angel said to him, "Don't be afraid, Zekharyah, because your request has been heard, and your wife, Elisheva, will bear you a son, and you shall call his name Yochanan.
Luk 1:14 You will have joy and gladness; and many will rejoice at his birth.
Luk 1:15 For he will be great in the sight of the Lord, and he will drink no wine nor strong drink. He will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb.
Luk 1:16 He will turn many of the children of Yisra'el to the Lord, their God.
Luk 1:17 He will go before him in the spirit and power of Eliyahu, 'to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,' and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."
Luk 1:18 Zekharyah said to the angel, "How can I be sure of this? For I am an old man, and my wife is well advanced in years."
Luk 1:19 The angel answered him, "I am Gavri'el, who stands in the presence of God. I was sent to speak to you, and to bring you this good news.
Luk 1:20 Behold, you will be silent and not able to speak, until the day that these things will happen, because you didn't believe my words, which will be fulfilled in their proper time." Zekharyah was struck dunb for speaking His unbelief, therefore speaking unbelief when you know better is a sin! Na na na na naaa na! Now, how many times have you read in scripture that those that speak pridefully will be brought low? Hmmm... OK, maybe I'm stretching it or maybe you may have to extend you list?

Offered in love,
talmidim

[talmidim]

spitting???:sick:


That should be one of them.Only when spitting is in the eye of the beholder! :D

[visionary]

Ok How about beguiling????

[talmidim]

Ok How about beguiling????Shalom visionary,:wave:
I have to admit, this is a clue worthy of you (Col 2 and 2 Pet 2). But how can you offer up "beguiling" as a clue and not respond to the ingenious offerings I left for you? :confused: Oh, now I get it. You're just stringing me along...:cry:

(jus wishin', an hopin', an hopin', an prayin' :D )
talmidim

[rooster]

"flattery
deceit
false witness
slander
cursing
Lords name in vain
judgement
blasphemy
"
Let me try
Incitement
Boasting
false condescendence
putting someone down
false worship/flowery prayer


i dunno, this is pretty tough

[visionary]

Na na na na naaa na! So should we list this under bragging???

[visionary]

So Talmidim and Rooster and everyone else....are there any more sins of the tongue that you can bring to the table and quote the verse that confirms it? The challenge is on...Talmidim thinks that there are 20-24.

Beguile
2 Peter 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
Blasphemy
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Boasting
James 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.Cursing
Psalm 10:7 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity.
Deceit
Job 13:7 Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him?
Fraud
Leviticus 19:13 Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
False witness
Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
Flattery
Job 17:5 He that speaketh flattery to his friends, even the eyes of his children shall fail.
Proverbs 6:24 To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.
Judgement
Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
Lords name in vain
Exodus 20
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Murder
Pro 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
Pride
Psalm 59:12 For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak.Slander
Psalm 101:5 Whoso privily slandereth his neighbour, him will I cut off: him that hath an high look and a proud heart will not I suffer.
Spitting
Isaiah 50:6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
Unbelief
1 Timothy 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

[talmidim]

visionary! Shame on you. Holding up in public what I offered in private and in jest. :blush: 20-24 may be REALLLLLLY hard. It's a good thing that I've already gotten 11. :D

Lying & beguiling and fraud that's three for you!
Boasting & gossip are two more! OK, I said boasting (is my nose bleeding?). That makes 5 plus my 11.

rooster -
I'll concede incitement only because provoke is a synonym to incite: Exo 23:21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
OK, I could not find "condescendence" or any synonym and I think putting someone down might fall under speaking curses, but that's a judgement call and this is visionary's thread. I found this in support of false worship/flowery prayer Mat 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
That make two more, so we are up to 18! And they are...

flattery
murder
deceit
false witness
unbelief
slander
cursing
Lords name in vain
pride
judgement
blasphemy
lying
beguiling
boasting
fraud
gossip
provoking
false worship/flowery prayer
Only 2 more to reach 20 and 6 more to reach 24! C'mon everyone, let's go for it!

[Shimshon]

is not unbelief the same as blasphemy? To say opposite of the truth or to not believe in the truth and say "surely you won't die". is not blasphemy unbelief?

[visionary]

I considered blasphemy is with acknowledgement, whereas unbelief is still in the denial stage.

[talmidim]

is not unbelief the same as blasphemy? To say opposite of the truth or to not believe in the truth and say "surely you won't die". is not blasphemy unbelief?Hi shimshon :wave:

Welcome. This is kind of a scriptural scramble where we get to play fast and loose (within reason) with the concept of sins of the tongue. Read my post with the story of Zekharyah. See if you consider his unbelief blaspheme. I'd be interested in your opinion (provided you agree with me). :D Just kidding...

Thanks,
talmidim

[visionary]

visionary! Shame on you. Holding up in public what I offered in private and in jest. 20-24 may be REALLLLLLY hard. It's a good thing that I've already gotten 11. My apologies..... it was too good of a challenge to leave alone....I realize now that I should have asked you first before offering the challenge to the rest here on the forum :groupray: ...but I was "assuming" again, that it would be alright. :pray: Please accept my apology. :cry: I am sorry. :sorry:

:scratch: I wonder if in some way that what I have done is a sin of the tongue, if instead of writting it, I had spoken it ...to speak without authority or permission?

[Shimshon]

Todah rabbaTalmidim,

Well, I've read the referred to Zekharyah story and restudied the definition for blasphemy and I come to this conclusion.

I believe Zekharyah's merely received discipline for his unbelief. And that his words to Gavriel were said in ignorance and thus not blasphemy.

Blasphemy is defined as a willful intent to disparage or speak evil of, not said in ignorance but with full knowledge and intent to speak it.

Hence Zekharyah was disciplined and then forgiven. Heck even the discipline was for the betterment of all things. It prevented him from speaking further unbelief that might have then lead to the sin of blasphemy.

But seeing how it does not appear to be a malicious question only an ignorant one I believe the only sin committed here was unbelief.

Which would in turn mean that it was committed by the tongue!!! Visionary, you are correct. And the list grows...

Come to think of it. Talmidim is correct as well. This list must be more than 13. Considering the heart is evil, wicked beyond all things. And it is out of the abundance of the heart a man speaks. So how many sins do you think your tongue can commit? I would venture to imagine much more than 13.

b'Shalom
Shimshon

[visionary]

seduce

2 Kings 21:9 But they hearkened not: and Manasseh seduced them to do more evil than did the nations whom the LORD destroyed before the children of Israel.

[talmidim]

My apologies..... it was too good of a challenge to leave alone....I realize now that I should have asked you first before offering the challenge to the rest here on the forum :groupray: ...but I was "assuming" again, that it would be alright. :pray: Please accept my apology. :cry: I am sorry. :sorry:

:scratch: I wonder if in some way that what I have done is a sin of the tongue, if instead of writting it, I had spoken it ...to speak without authority or permission?No apology needed Brother. I was just doing a little razzing.:D The second paragraph is telling though. :thumbsup: Always lookin' for an angle... And what did you do to that poor cat? Nevermind.

OK, seduce. But it's your turn to update the list.

As always, in love,
talmidim

[visionary]

flattery
murder
deceit
false witness
unbelief
slander
cursing
Lords name in vain
pride
judgement
blasphemy
lying
beguiling
boasting
fraud
gossip
provoking
false worship/flowery prayer
seduce
speaking without permission
reached 20 :clap: and 4 more to reach 24! C'mon everyone, let's go for it. :thumbsup:

[visionary]

And what did you do to that poor cat?He is laughing...can't you tell. Oh, I know, you have never seen one laugh before.

[talmidim]

He is laughing...can't you tell. Oh, I know, you have never seen one laugh before.Yeah OK, but let it be known to all that I did NOT give or imply my consent to number 20. Visionary, you are shameless! :D Either back it up with scripture or take it back!

tal(ha ha)mi(he he howl)dim(yuck yuck chuckle grin)

[Shimshon]

opps

[Adammi]

I think that all 13 can be summed up in these two:
Words that do not come from love, towards God &
Words that do not come from love, towards others.

[Shimshon]

I think that all 13 can be summed up in these two:
Words that do not come from love, towards God &
Words that do not come from love, towards others.
That's not a way to make a midrash out of it!!! ;) Were are the details? Where are the three different views of the same point? Where are the defining parts all layed out to there bare esentials? THATS TOO EASY...Words not in Love...oy..where is your Jewish soul? :confused:

(disclaimer; All words said in this post are in jest and ment to be taken lightly. Offenses were not intended):holy:

[Adammi]

That's not a way to make a midrash out of it!!! ;) Were are the details? Where are the three different views of the same point? Where are the defining parts all layed out to there bare esentials? THATS TOO EASY...Words not in Love...oy..where is your Jewish soul? :confused:

(disclaimer; All words said in this post are in jest and ment to be taken lightly. Offenses were not intended):holy:
I think that my post is very detailed.
If you say something that shows "un-love' for either God or man it is a sin of the tongues. Things aren't meant to be difficult, but rather to be put into action. The Gospel is quite easy, isn't it?
Can you think of anything that doesn't fit into one of those categories.

I wasn't offended I just wish that I would have understood it. LoL:wave:

[Shimshon]

I wasn't offended I just wish that I would have understood it. LoL:wave:
lol :) I guess you would have to have an understanding or exposure to jewish thinking to understand my post.

Forgive me. When I questioned you about a "jewish soul" (in jest albeit "disclaimer was posted") I did not notice you were actually "Christian". I notice now you are Christian by the cross you sport and the way you express G-d in thought and in text.

Jewish thought tends to break things down to it's bare means. Or should I put it another way. Attempts to see all the parts of the whole. i.e. Echad, a complex unity. We don't merely look at the cover and say, "it's all good" and never wonder about what makes it good from the inside out. This has lead to many "fences" and traditions that exceed the bounds of G-d's intent. But Christianity tends to do the opposite and just saying, "it's all good" because he said it is. And yet stumbling over themselves because they do not understand HOW it is good.

kapish? Understand my point?

[Adammi]

I get it.

[talmidim]

I think that my post is very detailed.
If you say something that shows "un-love' for either God or man it is a sin of the tongues. Things aren't meant to be difficult, but rather to be put into action. The Gospel is quite easy, isn't it?
Can you think of anything that doesn't fit into one of those categories.

I wasn't offended I just wish that I would have understood it. LoL:wave: Hi Read-the-Instructions :wave: and Welcome!
This thread is proposed like a "bait and switch" riddle. How many different ways can you... (fill in the blank)? There are only thirteen (yeah right, we're up to 19).:D

It is an exercise initiated by that sadistic poster, visionary. She has trapped us all in a quandry of our own choosing. Inciting lovers of the word to embrace a question of doctrine (?) with no set answers is like leaving a magazine of unsolvable puzzles in a house full of speed freaks.:mad: We twiddle away the hours, pouring over scripture while seeking to answer the burning question, "how many ways can man sin with his tongue".:scratch: Luckily, we all understand her to mean by speech. (pdrump tsssh) :D

g'luck
talmidim

[Shimshon]

I get it.
Talmidim......me thinks HaGabor Shimshon has disgruntaled another Christian. :sigh: I should learn not to keep tying foxes together and lighting them in the crowd...yes? Figures though, the one time I feel relaxed enough here to make a statment in jest and it comes to back to bite me. (didn't realize read was a christian) I hope I have not offended them too much with my endevors to be light hearted. :pray: Though I don't think it was my joking that did it. I think it was my bluntly honest statement about the differing perspectives between Jew and Christians. He got it and split. :sigh:

[talmidim]

Talmidim......me thinks HaGabor Shimshon has disgruntaled another Christian. :sigh: I should learn not to keep tying foxes together and lighting them in the crowd...yes? Figures though, the one time I feel relaxed enough here to make a statment in jest and it comes to back to bite me. (didn't realize read was a christian) I hope I have not offended them too much with my endevors to be light hearted. :pray: Though I don't think it was my joking that did it. I think it was my bluntly honest statement about the differing perspectives between Jew and Christians. He got it and split. :sigh:Inviting to doubtful disputation again? tsk tsk (*shakes finger*). Perhaps you might PM him. :D He might forgive your bluntness. I would if asked! http://www3.christianforums.com/images/mood/Happy.gif

Love ya,
talmidim

[visionary]

Sadistic..sadistic...who is calling me sadistic?? Talmadim....you are so provocative....are you trying to cause a fight here? :o

And besides I am female, it is my perogative, she thinks to her self.........Just keeping you boys on your toes. .....as she swishes her feline tail, laughing all the way to the next post.

So you think that I can not lay claim to the speaking without permission.....that was presumptive of you.....Talmadim ...as she gleefully dances around the room :clap:

Deuteronomy 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

Surely you can do better than that! :blush:

[visionary]

OK Talmadim....you count how many sins of the tongue we have now.

[talmidim]

OK Talmadim....you count how many sins of the tongue we have now.False prophecy (a very specific form of speaking without permission) would make 20 if you don't count teasing. :thumbsup: WOW your catching up!

[talmidim]

visionary

My discernment has lapsed. Please forgive my gender blunder. :blush: He mumbles as he fidgets and stares at the toe of his shoe that has crept up onto it's counterpart. I only... trails off into silence

Sorry... I'll edit right away! and rushes off
talmidim

[talmidim]

Hmmm...

[talmidim]

Luckily, we all understand her to mean by speech. (pdrump tsssh) :D else I would have suggested gluttony!


:doh: *pshew* I would have had to DIG in scripture to find that one he thinks to himself. It is definitely time for some sleep. Night all.:sleep:

[visionary]

else I would have suggested gluttony!


:doh: *pshew* I would have had to DIG in scripture to find that one he thinks to himself. It is definitely time for some sleep. Night all.:sleep:
:mad: yes and now he expects me to pick up after him...when he knows it is his turn to update the list. He is a glutton for punishment.

2 Kings 2:23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

[talmidim]

My dear sweet visionary,
Sufferin' Succotash... contained an accurate count. But since you insist:

Jer 24:9 And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them.

flattery........................................... talmidim
murder ........................................... talmidim
deceit ............................................ talmidim
false witness ................................... talmidim
unbelief .......................................... talmidim
slander ........................................... talmidim
cursing ........................................... talmidim
Lords name in vain .............................talmidim
pride .............................................. talmidim
judgement ........................................talmidim
blasphemy ........................................talmidim
lying .............................................. visionary
beguiling ......................................... visionary
boasting ......................................... visionary
fraud ............................................. visionary
gossip ............................................ visionary
provoking ........................................ rooster
false worship/flowery prayer ............... rooster
seduce ........................................... visionary
false prophecy ................................. visionary
mocking .......................................... visionary
taunting .......................................... talmidim
And the envelope please...

talmidim..............visionary................rooster
---12-----------------9-------------------2---

[visionary]

HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Not fair just because I gave you first opportunity...you take all the easy ones.

[talmidim]

Hmmm...

[talmidim]

HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Not fair just because I gave you first opportunity...you take all the easy ones.Granted, this stuff is easy for me. And thank you, I know you could have taken home the gold. You must be one of those proverbs 31 types, right?

[visionary]

HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Not fair just because I gave you first opportunity...you take all the easy ones.

name calling
2 Kings 2:23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
subtil
Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
exagerate...using same verse as above.

by your word/command another dies.
2 Samuel 12:1 And the LORD sent Nathan unto David. And he came unto him, and said unto him, There were two men in one city; the one rich, and the other poor. 2 The rich man had exceeding many flocks and herds: 3 But the poor man had nothing, save one little ewe lamb, which he had bought and nourished up: and it grew up together with him, and with his children; it did eat of his own meat, and drank of his own cup, and lay in his bosom, and was unto him as a daughter. 4 And there came a traveller unto the rich man, and he spared to take of his own flock and of his own herd, to dress for the wayfaring man that was come unto him; but took the poor man's lamb, and dressed it for the man that was come to him. 5 And David's anger was greatly kindled against the man; and he said to Nathan, As the LORD liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die: 6 And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity. 7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; 8 And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things. 9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.
steal....same verses as above.

[Katydid]

Hey!!!!! What Happened To Spitting!!!! :cry: :cry:

Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, I'm gonna go and eat some worms.

[talmidim]

HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Not fair just because I gave you first opportunity...you take all the easy ones.

Did I not say granted? Your turn with the list (now that I see we have relaxed the standards).

[visionary]

Hey!!!!! What Happened To Spitting!!!! :cry: :cry:

Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, I'm gonna go and eat some worms.
flattery........................................... talmidim -1
murder ........................................... talmidim -2
deceit ............................................ talmidim -3
false witness ................................... talmidim -4
unbelief .......................................... talmidim -5
slander ........................................... talmidim -6
cursing ........................................... talmidim -7
Lords name in vain .............................talmidim -8
pride .............................................. talmidim -9
judgement ........................................talmidim -10
blasphemy ........................................talmidim -11
lying .............................................. visionary -1
beguiling ......................................... visionary -2
boasting ......................................... visionary -3
fraud ............................................. visionary -4
gossip ............................................ visionary -5
provoking ........................................ rooster -1
false worship/flowery prayer ............... rooster -2
seduce ........................................... visionary -6
false prophecy ................................. visionary -7
mocking .......................................... visionary -8
taunting .......................................... talmidim -12
spitting............................................ Katydid -1
name calling ..................................... visionary -9
subtil .............................................. visionary -10
exagerate ........................................ visionary -11
steal ............................................... visionary -12
by word or command, someone dies ...... visionary -13

And the envelope please....and the winner is ...VISIONARY

APPLAUSE..... :clap: :clap: :clap:

Visionary takes a bow....thank you ... thank you ... thank you

[talmidim]

flattery........................................... talmidim -1
murder ........................................... talmidim -2
deceit ............................................ talmidim -3
false witness ................................... talmidim -4
unbelief .......................................... talmidim -5
slander ........................................... talmidim -6
cursing ........................................... talmidim -7
Lords name in vain .............................talmidim -8
pride .............................................. talmidim -9
judgement ........................................talmidim -10
blasphemy ........................................talmidim -11
lying .............................................. visionary -1
beguiling ......................................... visionary -2
boasting ......................................... visionary -3
fraud ............................................. visionary -4
gossip ............................................ visionary -5
provoking ........................................ rooster -1
false worship/flowery prayer ............... rooster -2
seduce ........................................... visionary -6
false prophecy ................................. visionary -7
mocking .......................................... visionary -8
taunting .......................................... talmidim -12
spitting............................................ Katydid -1
name calling ..................................... visionary -9
subtil .............................................. visionary -10
exagerate ........................................ visionary -11
steal ............................................... visionary -12
by word or command, someone dies ...... visionary -13

And the envelope please....and the winner is ...VISIONARY

APPLAUSE..... :clap: :clap: :clap:

Visionary takes a bow....thank you ... thank you ... thank youKatydid, I apologize if I was errant and did not include your offering, although I could not find it in scripture. visionary, my congratulations. while I was leading for a short time, I decided that the greater knowledge of sinning with the tongue might be a dubious distinction (te he he). http://www3.christianforums.com/images/mood/Happy.gif:clap: :clap: :clap: :D

talmidim

[visionary]

I was stretching the limit with....by word or command, someone dies...and steal....now think about really....you can not steal with your words...can you? and you had already got murder which is the same as what I said with by word or command, someone dies....so I say.....

And the WINNER is..... talmidim... whose new title shall be Chief "Sins of Tongue".....placing a new feather in his cap. :kiss: right on the cheek.

[talmidim]

I was stretching the limit with....by word or command, someone dies...and steal....now think about really....you can not steal with your words...can you? and you had already got murder which is the same as what I said with by word or command, someone dies....so I say.....

And the WINNER is..... talmidim... whose new title shall be Chief "Sins of Tongue".....placing a new feather in his cap. :kiss: right on the cheek.:eek: No no nooooooooo anything but that. No I uhh... well... what I mean is... :help: Katydid you want it? Rooster? Anybody!!??? :prayer: I ABDICATE!!!! :D exit stage left (*door slams* *footsteps fading...*)

[visionary]

While reading " He did it....She did it..." I click on pic and came across

Cain made the infamous reply, "Am I my brother's keeper?" Thus, the first murderer in history was also the one to invent sarcasm.

So here is one for you....Zayit

Congradulations!..... you are now on the "sins of the tongue" :wave: board.