Messianic (sp?) Jews

[chaindog]

Are Messianics considered Christian by mainstream Christian standards?

That is, do the believe in the Trinity, Jesus is God, etc?

Chaindog

[Shekinahs]

Are Messianics considered Christian by mainstream Christian standards?

That is, do the believe in the Trinity, Jesus is God, etc?

Chaindog
I know they believe that Jesus is the Messiah. And they have their own forum in the CO area http://www.christianforums.com/f34 so I would think they are considered mainstream.

[OldShepherd]

Thread moved from Unorthodox Theological Doctrines, more appropriate for Messianic Judaism.

[Spurgeon]

Are Messianics considered Christian by mainstream Christian standards?

That is, do the believe in the Trinity, Jesus is God, etc?

Chaindog
The Jews for Jesus website has an excellent article on their belief in the trinity. Because many of them are fluent in Hebrew they can look at the Old Testament with a greater eye of scrutiny than we can. For example Eloha (God in the singular tense) is used 250 times where Elohim (God as a plural noun) is used 2,500 times! They refer alot to the Old Testament (to help other Jews). Although I'm a baptist, I find some of their posts to be very spiritually helpful.

[simchat_torah]

\The Jews for Jesus website has an excellent article on their belief in the trinity
Jews for J-sus is Usually not considered 'messianic' by most Messianic congregations.

fyi...

[Henaynei]

as a general description - while there is a wide spectrum of commitment and practice - by and large:
Messianics believe that the Jewish Rabbi Yeshua is The Messiah, and that the Spirit of G-d was His spirit - 100% G-d in 100% man housing.

The differences are in the details :) as they are in most faith groups :)

[Toney]

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Jews for J-sus is Usually not considered 'messianic' by most Messianic congregations.

fyi...

Simchat,

Could you (or someone) please elaborate?

P.S. I wanted to post on MJ today to show off my new avatar, one result of the recent Messianic Judaism thread in OBOB. As OP of that thread I extend thanks to you, Jason, Zayit, and other MJs who participated.

Shalom,
Toney

[iitb]

Simchat,

Could you (or someone) please elaborate?

P.S. I wanted to post on MJ today to show off my new avatar, one result of the recent Messianic Judaism thread in OBOB. As OP of that thread I extend thanks to you, Jason, Zayit, and other MJs who participated.

Shalom,
Toney
Basically, J4J doesn't encourage Torah observance, etc. They pretty much aim to assimilate Jews into protestant christianity.

[ShirChadash]

pssst -- Toney -- that is an AWESOME avatar!

[Sephania]

Ah, Yes, the Lion of Judah who takes away the sins of the world. Toney, I love your new avatar, did you design that yourself? :)

[Henaynei]

very neat avatar - if you made it yourself you're a vunderkind!!


not that you ain't one anyhow!! ;)

[Toney]

Ah, Yes, the Lion of Judah who takes away the sins of the world. Toney, I love your new avatar, did you design that yourself? :)

Thanks, Zayit and Zemirah and Henaynei!

As a result of the recent MJ thread over on OBOB, I felt the L-rd was nudging me to open eyes and heart to some new truths.

Once again in my life, the Spirit introduces a fork in the road named Aliyah. Taking the advice of the great sage, Yogi Berra, who once said, "When you come to a fork in the road, take it," my new avatar is but a signpost for this unexpected sally into the the numinous forest.

I use 'signpost' both literally and symbolically. Yesterday, I went searching for an MJ Congregation in my area. Wouldn't you know it: only 10-minutes from the house is the Lion of Judah Congregation. My avatar is their logo.

Hope the birds don't eat the breadcrumbs.