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Sephania
14th March 2004, 06:20 PM
This just hit me, In John chapter 20 verse 22 it says:

"he breathed on them and said to them,

"Receive the Ruach HaKodesh ( Holy Spirit) !"

I said the 10, and not the 11 because the next verse tells us that Thomas was not there when this happened, but when he was there and Yeshua came again to see them he did not repeat this for Thomas.

What do you see as the signifigance of this?

Some points to consider:

HaShem breathed on Adam
Yeshua had the Ruach in him while on earth but was only able to "pass it on" once he rose from the grave.
Was Thomas not sent out with the others?
Did Thomas receive the Ruach during Shavuot like the rest that were there.
The ten could preach the good news in everyone's language, was this what they recieved?

Sorry, my mind's racing today, must be too much coffee and chocolate.:P

Sephania
15th March 2004, 01:21 PM
Nobody has any thoughts on this? Have you all seen this before and I am just a late bloomer? :(

ShirChadash
15th March 2004, 03:50 PM
Zayit, I honestly never noticed before :) I'm glad you pointed it out as I prefer to be clear on what happened when. :) I don't have any thoughts on it really. I assume Thomas received at a later point.

simchat_torah
15th March 2004, 04:23 PM
It is a false concept to believe the Jews did not have the Ruach HaKodesh before Y'shua. Because of this, many are confused by these very passages.

shalom,
yafet

Sephania
15th March 2004, 04:35 PM
That is rather hard to understand especially in light of the other one that was missing - Juda.

Simchat can you explain what Yeshua meant or was doing when he breathed on them? And why did he do this when only 10 were present? instead of waiting until Thomas was there? I am sure he knew that he would be seeing him soon. ;)