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<blockquote data-quote="Reluctant Theologian" data-source="post: 77664301" data-attributes="member: 436140"><p>I understand your frustration - I am a Christian yet also I feel frustrated sometimes with the illogical and seemingly contradictory descriptions given some creeds or church statements. I'll try to formulate some statements as how I've come to learn to think about God, given Biblical sources.</p><p></p><p>First of all throughout the TNK/OT and NT - to me it seems the usual terminology is: GOD = the Father.</p><p></p><p>Personally in the 21st century I would never call GOD (=the Father) and the Holy Spirit 'persons' because both are spirits, and as any English dictionary will tell you - in this day and age the term 'person' refers to a human being. GOD (the Father) and the Holy Spirit are identities, but certainly not 'persons' (according to a 21st century English dictionary). Of the three, only Yeshua/Jesus, the Son of GOD, is a person (human being).</p><p></p><p>In the TNK/OT references to the Holy Spirit seem to be primarily deal with God's anointing, God's presence/power - whereas in the New Covenant books it's both God's presence/force but also an identity who e.g. intercedes for the believers (a.o. see Romans 8:26-27).</p><p></p><p>The first 350 years of the Church leaders were trying to figure out exactly what to believe about God, Yeshua/Jesus and the Holy Spirit and how to define/express that - opinions varied quite a bit. But it is telling the first two official creeds on the nature of God (AD 325 and AD 381) both begin with these words:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">We <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Christianity" target="_blank">believe in one God</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_the_Father" target="_blank">the Father Almighty</a>, Maker of all things visible and invisible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Reluctant Theologian, post: 77664301, member: 436140"] I understand your frustration - I am a Christian yet also I feel frustrated sometimes with the illogical and seemingly contradictory descriptions given some creeds or church statements. I'll try to formulate some statements as how I've come to learn to think about God, given Biblical sources. First of all throughout the TNK/OT and NT - to me it seems the usual terminology is: GOD = the Father. Personally in the 21st century I would never call GOD (=the Father) and the Holy Spirit 'persons' because both are spirits, and as any English dictionary will tell you - in this day and age the term 'person' refers to a human being. GOD (the Father) and the Holy Spirit are identities, but certainly not 'persons' (according to a 21st century English dictionary). Of the three, only Yeshua/Jesus, the Son of GOD, is a person (human being). In the TNK/OT references to the Holy Spirit seem to be primarily deal with God's anointing, God's presence/power - whereas in the New Covenant books it's both God's presence/force but also an identity who e.g. intercedes for the believers (a.o. see Romans 8:26-27). The first 350 years of the Church leaders were trying to figure out exactly what to believe about God, Yeshua/Jesus and the Holy Spirit and how to define/express that - opinions varied quite a bit. But it is telling the first two official creeds on the nature of God (AD 325 and AD 381) both begin with these words: [INDENT]We [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Christianity']believe in one God[/URL], [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_the_Father']the Father Almighty[/URL], Maker of all things visible and invisible.[/INDENT] [/QUOTE]
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