Huh?

rocknanchor said:

I count it an abnormality of faith's soundness to suggest one's culture is what we guage our walk with Christ with. You won't hear that being spoken as a problem, though it does enjoy very much frowning on an assortment of issues commonly known as - outdated. A list nor instance here is not nesessesary. So if you can't relate, you may also lean far too heavily on hermaneutical effort.

In other words, for some unknown reason the human condition frequently chooses reason over His will?

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I don't see any good reason why human reason can't mediate in our understanding of what it is we think God's will "is"? In fact, if anything, Christians need to do MORE engagement with hermeneutics, not less, ALONG with their prayer and reliance upon the Holy Spirit.

As it stands today, too many people who claim to be "led by the Spirit" do so, but come to decisively different conclusions about their choices of denomination or what the Bible means, all the while putting on the verbal frong that they, and they alone, have the utmost leading of the Spirit.

Yeah. I'm not going to make that claim. I'll go with reason, reasonably applied within the middle of my faith.

rocknanchor said:

In other words, for some unknown reason the human condition frequently chooses reason over His will?

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Not sure I understand the post, but choosing our own reason over His will is simply wanting our will to be done rather than His. This is a hard thing for me, especially when His will seems to run counter to what I think. That's a lack-of-faith issue, BTW.

rocknanchor said:

And today is where I wonder just what kind of shape that character is in, in our relation to what He purposed for us? Has culture succeeded in quenching His work in us with such things as equating "stuffiness" with godliness (like course jokes with the guys for instance)?

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I understand and appreciate your concern, but being that were 2,000 years removed from the Bible, and that the Biblical writers can't demonstrably show that they wrote at an inerrant level, among several other critical problems we face with handling and reading the Bible, we're in an epistemic "double-bind."

.......... but it seems that all that evangelical Christians are concerned about today is if we're double-minded or not. I wish that is all we had to deal with ....... but there's more than this which goes unrecognized or flatly ignored.

rocknanchor said:

You would align with a much more popular opinion if you reaffirmed inerrancy of the Holy Spirit's pen, and instead singled out the "poor translator".

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I can't do that. But what's more, there's no NEED to do that. In fact, like any piece of written history, the Bible doesn't need to be imputed with inerrancy to be valid IF it is indeed valid. To add this nomenclature as a descriptor of the Bible is superfluous. It's not even needed.

And I'm sure as hell not going to be shamed into it seeing the Bible as inerrant by folks who think they're roaring with a so-called "prophetic voice."

rocknanchor said:

Yes. Singled out from that same inerrancy, the churched who are in increasing in number who cannot "endure sound doctrine"(2 Tim 4:3). This has reached the hypocritical level as some of them coming from the "whole text" crowd.

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It's really not hypocrisy, and I think anyone who'd take a moment to read a book like, Defending Inerrancy, by Norman L. Geisler and William C. Roach could see this.

The claim of hypocrisy is simply a canard ................................................... and Geisler and Roach failed to obviate the epistemic contentions of other, non-fundamentalistic Christians.

rocknanchor said:

Who's kicking shame around except by possible willingness, the resulting point of the Apostle upon those who refuse that sacred task (2 Tim 2:15)?

Not so, the inspiration did not originate from flesh and blood, next chapter, v16.

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The epistemic problem here is that simply quoting Scripture is not a final proof of much of anything divine. It takes more than simply quoting.