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Uncharted Territory, rapid warming greatly exceeds models' forecasts
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<blockquote data-quote="Halbhh" data-source="post: 77658494" data-attributes="member: 375234"><p>For determining how much a particular greenhouse gas contributes to heat retention, that's only about working out all the math of the physics side of it -- where of course you must use the relative abundance of various greenhouse gasses, such as the far more powerful greenhouse gas Methane -- and then including equations representing that factor into the model. Even if you do that well, of course that doesn't guarantee the model has every major factor -- it might <em>not</em> yet. Correct greenhouse gas factors are only one part of a good model.</p><p></p><p>And researchers continue working over time to better understand also and incorporate other factors, over time, gradually improving models.</p><p></p><p>And could still miss a major factor.</p><p></p><p>Also, you appear you might be wondering (as it seemed to my in my impression from the rest of your post) that researchers aren't aware (or taking into account?) how more CO2 would then be used by plants?</p><p></p><p>No, the opposite -- we know that CO2 is used/taken up by plants, like phytoplankton for example, in vast quantities -- and that very thing is also incorporated into good modeling such as by a <em>factor</em> of absorption (what % of new CO2 is absorbed out of the atmosphere)....</p><p></p><p>And also studied in research -- how that can change over time, etc.</p><p></p><p>For example: <a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/12173/phytoplankton-dynamics-under-climate-change" target="_blank">Phytoplankton Dynamics Under Climate Change</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Halbhh, post: 77658494, member: 375234"] For determining how much a particular greenhouse gas contributes to heat retention, that's only about working out all the math of the physics side of it -- where of course you must use the relative abundance of various greenhouse gasses, such as the far more powerful greenhouse gas Methane -- and then including equations representing that factor into the model. Even if you do that well, of course that doesn't guarantee the model has every major factor -- it might [I]not[/I] yet. Correct greenhouse gas factors are only one part of a good model. And researchers continue working over time to better understand also and incorporate other factors, over time, gradually improving models. And could still miss a major factor. Also, you appear you might be wondering (as it seemed to my in my impression from the rest of your post) that researchers aren't aware (or taking into account?) how more CO2 would then be used by plants? No, the opposite -- we know that CO2 is used/taken up by plants, like phytoplankton for example, in vast quantities -- and that very thing is also incorporated into good modeling such as by a [I]factor[/I] of absorption (what % of new CO2 is absorbed out of the atmosphere).... And also studied in research -- how that can change over time, etc. For example: [URL='https://www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/12173/phytoplankton-dynamics-under-climate-change']Phytoplankton Dynamics Under Climate Change[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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