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The whole presupposition of Snowpiercer hurts my brain....
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<blockquote data-quote="eclipsenow" data-source="post: 77027139" data-attributes="member: 274355"><p>It's 1001 cars long. Big, double decker cars. The whole train thing is just sick - anyone fearing the end of the world would build a fusion reactor (The Engine Eternal) or at least today's breeder reactors. (Fission reactors that 'eat' nuclear waste and get 90 times the energy out of it.) They'd build this in a safe STATIONERY underground bunker - and also have a whole bunch of cold suits and glass houses to build out on the surface after the 'event' (new ice age, asteroid impact, whatever). That's glass houses assuming we need agriculture! Let me copy and paste my FERMING brief in here. Ferming is so revolutionary I should give it a Sci-Fi thread all for it!</p><p>___</p><p>Think of it as electric food that bypasses photosynthesis. Electricity splits water and feeds hydrogen to bacteria - with a few fertilisers. Here's George Monbiot eating a pancake made from the stuff.</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/08/lab-grown-food-destroy-farming-save-planet" target="_blank">Lab-grown food is about to destroy farming – and save the planet | George Monbiot</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>They claim it will scale up to grow protein cheaper than soybeans by 2025, and that it will cook all the proteins and fats and carbs we need, and even arrive in different flavours.</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Foods" target="_blank">Solar Foods - Wikipedia</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is Ravioli [MEDIA=youtube]6p8pEbt7kjE[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Here are Bao buns - does that look like a beef strip or bacon to you? I can't make up my mind. But it's solein. [MEDIA=youtube]DsgpUxec5dY[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p></p><p>It will be cheaper than meat in just a few years. It will replace all animal products - beef, lamb, pork, chicken and fish (with omega-3's) - in the next 10 to 15 years. It could even replace our cereal crops like wheat and corn and rice. It’s 100 times more land efficient than beef, and 10 times more than our various crops. It’s going to be the biggest jump in human food security since we invented farming 10,000 years ago - and could save us from the worst aspects of climate change - the way it messes up agriculture! Indeed, with all that land being returned to nature we could probably let the 3 trillion trees we’ve cut down since Industrialisation regrow - even plant them out with droid-seed-pods and help nature along with this.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Tony Seba follows the cost curve as it becomes 100,000 times cheaper over the last 20 years. The potential proteins that can be cooked up are infinite in variety. One protein is 1000 times sweeter than sugar cane. We can make spider-silk for building materials this way. [MEDIA=youtube]g6gZHbfK8Vo[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p></p><p>The Chinese are working on another route - a chemical way to cook up sugary starches used for both food and cardboard etc. In keeping with the "Ferming" above, I call this one "Starching". [MEDIA=youtube]e2SsheLN1t8[/MEDIA] They sound like some gifts from Science Fiction. Worth keeping an eye on!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eclipsenow, post: 77027139, member: 274355"] It's 1001 cars long. Big, double decker cars. The whole train thing is just sick - anyone fearing the end of the world would build a fusion reactor (The Engine Eternal) or at least today's breeder reactors. (Fission reactors that 'eat' nuclear waste and get 90 times the energy out of it.) They'd build this in a safe STATIONERY underground bunker - and also have a whole bunch of cold suits and glass houses to build out on the surface after the 'event' (new ice age, asteroid impact, whatever). That's glass houses assuming we need agriculture! Let me copy and paste my FERMING brief in here. Ferming is so revolutionary I should give it a Sci-Fi thread all for it! ___ Think of it as electric food that bypasses photosynthesis. Electricity splits water and feeds hydrogen to bacteria - with a few fertilisers. Here's George Monbiot eating a pancake made from the stuff. [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/08/lab-grown-food-destroy-farming-save-planet"]Lab-grown food is about to destroy farming – and save the planet | George Monbiot[/URL] They claim it will scale up to grow protein cheaper than soybeans by 2025, and that it will cook all the proteins and fats and carbs we need, and even arrive in different flavours. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Foods"]Solar Foods - Wikipedia[/URL] Here is Ravioli [MEDIA=youtube]6p8pEbt7kjE[/MEDIA] Here are Bao buns - does that look like a beef strip or bacon to you? I can't make up my mind. But it's solein. [MEDIA=youtube]DsgpUxec5dY[/MEDIA] It will be cheaper than meat in just a few years. It will replace all animal products - beef, lamb, pork, chicken and fish (with omega-3's) - in the next 10 to 15 years. It could even replace our cereal crops like wheat and corn and rice. It’s 100 times more land efficient than beef, and 10 times more than our various crops. It’s going to be the biggest jump in human food security since we invented farming 10,000 years ago - and could save us from the worst aspects of climate change - the way it messes up agriculture! Indeed, with all that land being returned to nature we could probably let the 3 trillion trees we’ve cut down since Industrialisation regrow - even plant them out with droid-seed-pods and help nature along with this. Tony Seba follows the cost curve as it becomes 100,000 times cheaper over the last 20 years. The potential proteins that can be cooked up are infinite in variety. One protein is 1000 times sweeter than sugar cane. We can make spider-silk for building materials this way. [MEDIA=youtube]g6gZHbfK8Vo[/MEDIA] The Chinese are working on another route - a chemical way to cook up sugary starches used for both food and cardboard etc. In keeping with the "Ferming" above, I call this one "Starching". [MEDIA=youtube]e2SsheLN1t8[/MEDIA] They sound like some gifts from Science Fiction. Worth keeping an eye on! [/QUOTE]
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