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<blockquote data-quote="Malleeboy" data-source="post: 77392627" data-attributes="member: 436627"><p>Phillip,</p><p></p><p>I think you are underplaying Australia; I agree that we have many weaknesses, however like the cliche saying "Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the rest", can be applied to Australia as a country.</p><p></p><p>We have amongst the longest continuous democracies in the world (I'd argue that given our constituent states are still in some sense sovereign entities and did not cease to be democracies by federating, we should predate for example NZ on the lists.)</p><p>We are the only continent-wide country, we federated peacefully, we have had no civil wars.</p><p>We have amongst the highest per capita median wealth and are in the top five in average wealth.</p><p>Superannuation has been a massive successful government program.</p><p>Our universal health and pharmaceutical schemes are amongst the world's best.</p><p>Native title and other forms of native title already cover over 50% of our country.</p><p></p><p>I could write a list of failures just as long, but I think that is true of any country, people make mistakes but I think we have done better than many.</p><p></p><p>Now the gap between non-indigenous and indigenous outcomes is a blight, but it hasn't been a lack of funds per se. We just can't get the outcomes. However, from my perspective we have already tried the Voice solution, it was called ATSIC, and was mired in corruption. So, we are purposing to create a body to mirror ATSIC but ensure no matter how badly it runs, it can't be sacked.</p><p>Furthermore, the Māori, despite having all the things that even the most radical voices call for in Australia, have almost identical outcomes in life span</p><p>I would highlight that Indigenous Australians have a longer life span than any pacific islanders expect for Tonga which is about equal. Despite these islanders having sovereignty, own parliaments etc.</p><p></p><p>If it would guarantee fixing the gap, I would happily pay specific tax etc. I would vote Jacinta Price as PM and make Warren Mundine GG.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Malleeboy, post: 77392627, member: 436627"] Phillip, I think you are underplaying Australia; I agree that we have many weaknesses, however like the cliche saying "Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the rest", can be applied to Australia as a country. We have amongst the longest continuous democracies in the world (I'd argue that given our constituent states are still in some sense sovereign entities and did not cease to be democracies by federating, we should predate for example NZ on the lists.) We are the only continent-wide country, we federated peacefully, we have had no civil wars. We have amongst the highest per capita median wealth and are in the top five in average wealth. Superannuation has been a massive successful government program. Our universal health and pharmaceutical schemes are amongst the world's best. Native title and other forms of native title already cover over 50% of our country. I could write a list of failures just as long, but I think that is true of any country, people make mistakes but I think we have done better than many. Now the gap between non-indigenous and indigenous outcomes is a blight, but it hasn't been a lack of funds per se. We just can't get the outcomes. However, from my perspective we have already tried the Voice solution, it was called ATSIC, and was mired in corruption. So, we are purposing to create a body to mirror ATSIC but ensure no matter how badly it runs, it can't be sacked. Furthermore, the Māori, despite having all the things that even the most radical voices call for in Australia, have almost identical outcomes in life span I would highlight that Indigenous Australians have a longer life span than any pacific islanders expect for Tonga which is about equal. Despite these islanders having sovereignty, own parliaments etc. If it would guarantee fixing the gap, I would happily pay specific tax etc. I would vote Jacinta Price as PM and make Warren Mundine GG. [/QUOTE]
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