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Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?
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<blockquote data-quote="RDKirk" data-source="post: 77465316" data-attributes="member: 326155"><p>I think I agree with you, although I'm not sure what you're saying.</p><p></p><p>I remember pre-Civil Rights Act America, and I know my experiences since then. When I hear young black people talking about experiencing racism "all the time," I'm raising my eyebrows. For instance, I've been "driving while black" for over 50 years. That includes driving through what ought to be the most racist states in the Union. In a half century of driving, I've had five interactions with police officers.</p><p></p><p>The first one was actually the first time I was ever behind the wheel. I was 15 and a half, driving on a learner's permit and clipped a parked car. That white police officer merely took me back home and left me in the custody of my mother. Three other incidents involved me actually making driving mistakes. Only one of those resulted in a ticket, which the judge dismissed in court. One was in DC, when I called the police after someone rear-ended me and fled the scene. The responding officers in that case were black...and those were the only police officers that have ever disrespected me.</p><p></p><p>None of the black people over the years I've been acquainted with enough to be knowledgeable of their experiences report having constant harrowing run-ins with the police. But I hear over the Internet, "...all the time!"</p><p></p><p>The same with stories of blatant racism in businesses, schools, et cetera. I could tell you stories from the late 60s. But today...I'm not seeing it. But young people on the Internet are saying, "It's just as bad as the 50s!"</p><p></p><p>I remember the 50s...I disagree.</p><p></p><p>One difference is that back in the 60s, we weren't worried about white people <strong>being </strong>racist. It wasn't the state of being racist that we were concerned about...because we more or less expected that anyway. We didn't expect white people to <strong>like</strong> us, and certainly not to "celebrate" us. We just wanted the same civil rights as the racists had. We would never have expected white people to celebrate Juneteenth...and would not have been broken up about it if white people didn't.</p><p></p><p>The racism I see now seems to break into three parts: One is real racism...but that's not so prevalent anymore, and I think it will mostly die with the Boomer Generation.</p><p></p><p>The second seems to be an inability to distinguish jerks from racists. A lot of white people are just jerks...to everybody who might be vulnerable. And when they're a jerk to a black person, it's not actually racism. They're just jerks. Edit: If he were truly racist, he'd only be a jerk to blacks. But he's a jerk to everyone.</p><p></p><p>The third, which I think is growing and the most prevalent in younger generations is "reactionary racism." That's something we black people are bringing on ourselves. But I think reactionary racism can be extinguished pretty quickly if the fuel source (our own actions) is turned off.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDKirk, post: 77465316, member: 326155"] I think I agree with you, although I'm not sure what you're saying. I remember pre-Civil Rights Act America, and I know my experiences since then. When I hear young black people talking about experiencing racism "all the time," I'm raising my eyebrows. For instance, I've been "driving while black" for over 50 years. That includes driving through what ought to be the most racist states in the Union. In a half century of driving, I've had five interactions with police officers. The first one was actually the first time I was ever behind the wheel. I was 15 and a half, driving on a learner's permit and clipped a parked car. That white police officer merely took me back home and left me in the custody of my mother. Three other incidents involved me actually making driving mistakes. Only one of those resulted in a ticket, which the judge dismissed in court. One was in DC, when I called the police after someone rear-ended me and fled the scene. The responding officers in that case were black...and those were the only police officers that have ever disrespected me. None of the black people over the years I've been acquainted with enough to be knowledgeable of their experiences report having constant harrowing run-ins with the police. But I hear over the Internet, "...all the time!" The same with stories of blatant racism in businesses, schools, et cetera. I could tell you stories from the late 60s. But today...I'm not seeing it. But young people on the Internet are saying, "It's just as bad as the 50s!" I remember the 50s...I disagree. One difference is that back in the 60s, we weren't worried about white people [B]being [/B]racist. It wasn't the state of being racist that we were concerned about...because we more or less expected that anyway. We didn't expect white people to [B]like[/B] us, and certainly not to "celebrate" us. We just wanted the same civil rights as the racists had. We would never have expected white people to celebrate Juneteenth...and would not have been broken up about it if white people didn't. The racism I see now seems to break into three parts: One is real racism...but that's not so prevalent anymore, and I think it will mostly die with the Boomer Generation. The second seems to be an inability to distinguish jerks from racists. A lot of white people are just jerks...to everybody who might be vulnerable. And when they're a jerk to a black person, it's not actually racism. They're just jerks. Edit: If he were truly racist, he'd only be a jerk to blacks. But he's a jerk to everyone. The third, which I think is growing and the most prevalent in younger generations is "reactionary racism." That's something we black people are bringing on ourselves. But I think reactionary racism can be extinguished pretty quickly if the fuel source (our own actions) is turned off. [/QUOTE]
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