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Kid's Corporal Punishment - a Risk to Mental Health
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<blockquote data-quote="Paidiske" data-source="post: 77649025" data-attributes="member: 386627"><p>No; hierarchy <strong><em>is</em></strong> about control. The enforcement of rigid roles <strong><em>is</em></strong> a form of abuse. These are not "neutral" structures. </p><p></p><p>Perhaps, although in my experience it's not particularly about distress at all. But the central point remains; the focus is on challenging beliefs and attitudes. </p><p></p><p>Well, firstly, it's never that blunt. And secondly, it does need to occur within a relationship of trust and support. And thirdly, it's not true that these beliefs are formed by being disadvantaged.</p><p></p><p>As for cruel and judgemental, you tell me which is more cruel; to challenge the beliefs which underpin abuse, or to allow abuse to go unchallenged? </p><p></p><p>Well, if it's not causative of abuse, why are we even discussing it?</p><p></p><p>When you look at the beliefs measured by the PRIBS, and you look at the beliefs which underpin abuse, there is only partial overlap. </p><p></p><p>Yep. That's the one bit of overlap. But it doesn't adequately account for the beliefs which underpin abuse (it doesn't account for acceptance of violence, or hierarchy). </p><p></p><p>And the PRIBS measures other things which are not related to abuse. So you can't look at irrational beliefs, as measured by PRIBS, and say that that is an accurate measure of the beliefs which drive abuse.</p><p></p><p>We looked at it in detail. It does not measure all of the beliefs which underpin abuse. And it measures many things which do not. </p><p></p><p>But these do not relate to acceptance of violence, hierarchy, power, control, or rigid roles. They are separate issues. That is why I have been pointing out that the PRIBS measures many things which do not underpin abusive behaviour.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paidiske, post: 77649025, member: 386627"] No; hierarchy [B][I]is[/I][/B] about control. The enforcement of rigid roles [B][I]is[/I][/B] a form of abuse. These are not "neutral" structures. Perhaps, although in my experience it's not particularly about distress at all. But the central point remains; the focus is on challenging beliefs and attitudes. Well, firstly, it's never that blunt. And secondly, it does need to occur within a relationship of trust and support. And thirdly, it's not true that these beliefs are formed by being disadvantaged. As for cruel and judgemental, you tell me which is more cruel; to challenge the beliefs which underpin abuse, or to allow abuse to go unchallenged? Well, if it's not causative of abuse, why are we even discussing it? When you look at the beliefs measured by the PRIBS, and you look at the beliefs which underpin abuse, there is only partial overlap. Yep. That's the one bit of overlap. But it doesn't adequately account for the beliefs which underpin abuse (it doesn't account for acceptance of violence, or hierarchy). And the PRIBS measures other things which are not related to abuse. So you can't look at irrational beliefs, as measured by PRIBS, and say that that is an accurate measure of the beliefs which drive abuse. We looked at it in detail. It does not measure all of the beliefs which underpin abuse. And it measures many things which do not. But these do not relate to acceptance of violence, hierarchy, power, control, or rigid roles. They are separate issues. That is why I have been pointing out that the PRIBS measures many things which do not underpin abusive behaviour. [/QUOTE]
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