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Is modern secular society headed down the path to Sodom and Gomorrah.
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<blockquote data-quote="Hans Blaster" data-source="post: 77660669" data-attributes="member: 396028"><p>It seems we have work to do to...</p><p></p><p>If we are talking about influences on other literature, the writers of books were certainly reading a wide variety of books that influenced their writing. It really didn't matter what the merchant class had on their shelves or if they had any books at all.</p><p></p><p>I'm attacking your claim of the bible being the dominant or primary influence of western literature or culture. Your misconceptions about the relative availability of various texts seems to be influencing your position.</p><p></p><p>5-600 years for the vast majority of them.</p><p></p><p>The "foundation" tends to be the layer laid down first. The Greeks laid down a foundation for Western civilization (and its literature) before Jesus was even born. The *influence* of the bible that comes later is clear, but it is not the ur-source for everything in western culture or literature.</p><p></p><p>Again, there are western versions of the "golden rule" that predate the gospels. The bible seems to influence how *Christians* think about everything, but the rest of us don't need to give it any notice.</p><p></p><p>Is that a commandment for self-centered people or something? (Like much of the sermon on the mount, the more I think about parts of it, the less useful it seems.)</p><p></p><p>Oh, if only they practiced what they preached.</p><p></p><p>Another one of your "universal human properties = god something" claims. I remain unimpressed and unconvinced.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hans Blaster, post: 77660669, member: 396028"] It seems we have work to do to... If we are talking about influences on other literature, the writers of books were certainly reading a wide variety of books that influenced their writing. It really didn't matter what the merchant class had on their shelves or if they had any books at all. I'm attacking your claim of the bible being the dominant or primary influence of western literature or culture. Your misconceptions about the relative availability of various texts seems to be influencing your position. 5-600 years for the vast majority of them. The "foundation" tends to be the layer laid down first. The Greeks laid down a foundation for Western civilization (and its literature) before Jesus was even born. The *influence* of the bible that comes later is clear, but it is not the ur-source for everything in western culture or literature. Again, there are western versions of the "golden rule" that predate the gospels. The bible seems to influence how *Christians* think about everything, but the rest of us don't need to give it any notice. Is that a commandment for self-centered people or something? (Like much of the sermon on the mount, the more I think about parts of it, the less useful it seems.) Oh, if only they practiced what they preached. Another one of your "universal human properties = god something" claims. I remain unimpressed and unconvinced. [/QUOTE]
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